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Old 10-29-2002 | 04:27 PM
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Anybody got it and is it any good ? What about best engine choice ?

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Old 10-29-2002 | 07:28 PM
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I have one with MVVS 1.60 ....... to be really honest, it's a rippoff, especially with the price I paid in the UK!!

go for a Dave Patrick Extra.... it has a much more sensitive and light feel to it, it flies much like a larger model according to a chap who flies both... I've seen both in action and the Extra really does excell the Edge completely.

It's an all rounder, not a good one, it's poor at IMAC, and the only 3D I've had it to satisfactorily perform are : blender, Parachute, Wall, and the harrier is possible but rocky.

If you want a good model, the H9 Edge is not worth spending the money on... so many people are having problems with them tipstalling now aswell, and I must admit that mine hasn't got the best stall characteristics either.


Mine's goin pretty soon for a DP Extra!
Old 10-29-2002 | 11:48 PM
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Search for the Hanger 9 Edge540 thread; there are dozens of threads on this forum with everything you ever wanted to know about this plane.

I have the Hanger 9 Edge and I use a Saito 180 with 16x8 apc. All up weight is 12lbs. I simply love it and never fails to impress onlookers.

Two servos on elevator installed in the servo bay. Other servos installed as normal. I use a 24oz tank. Use high torque servos especially on rudder and elevator.

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Old 10-30-2002 | 04:06 AM
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The problem planes are from the people who just put it together and flew it..the kit had some issues not all just some ..all were problems that if the individuals would have noticed at assembly they were completly fixable..

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Old 10-30-2002 | 04:09 AM
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Welsh is also correct the dave patrick is great.. but you have to go gas motor the only glow worthy is a moki 2.10 ..hope you have a large fuel budget...

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Old 10-30-2002 | 04:48 AM
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The new wing version that I have is absolutely perfect!
Old 10-30-2002 | 08:02 AM
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i have the H9 edge, putting it together here and there.

i like it so far, the manual is very cool with tips on setup and walk thru for the 3D manouvers.

only thing i heard was to beef up the landing gear block for landings, not enough glue/wood to help it absorb less than 'ideal' landings.

and beef it up if going gas... Im not yet, going to install a YS 140. should be sweet!

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Old 10-30-2002 | 02:18 PM
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YS 140..it might be short on power..I will be interested in how it performs..Its a great plane..Im running 160 os

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Old 10-30-2002 | 06:03 PM
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I've got one I'm assembling right now. I'm not impressed.
Maybe someone with a few years exp, that hasn't seen nor built well over 100 planes would think it's excellent. I'd put ANY plane that I've built against ANY H9 Edge though.

For $350 or so I guess it'll do for a fun plane. I think though after starting on this one, I wish I would've sold it NIB(or not bought it at all) and bought the GreatPlanes 33%Extra330 and built it from a kit.

I'm going with my ever-proven Moki 1.80, elevator servos in rear, it will be fun though, as it already comes with imperfections, so it won't be a big worry if it gets a few more. I am looking forward to the flying though, it should really get with it, all things considered. I might have it flying in a few weeks. I do have to say though, the manual is good, and the hardware, if you go with thier recomended engines is good. If you go with more power though, you better take some steps to accomodate that.
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I've got a ZDZ 40cc gasser in my H9 Edge. While it came out a little heavier than I'd have liked, it's still lighter than the projected weight of the GP 'Patty' Extra (they post it as 14-16 lbs, my Edge came in at about 14 with the gas engine..... same wing span, although the Extra does have a bit more wing area).

Anyway, I had a little tip-stalling problem when slowing down for landing. I programmed in a landing mode that puts both ailerons up about 1/8" and just a touch of down elevator to offset the slight pitch-up tendency with the raised ailerons - now it settles right in for a very reasonably slow landing with no tip stall.

I was a little concerned about the 14lb weight until I tried an inverted flat spin...... went REALLY flat - and had a very slow rotation..... throttled up a bit and the descent STOPPED! Didn't go "up", but it stopped coming "down"! And the rotation stayed slow.

As for vertical - unlimited with the ZDZ, and it's still running a bit rich and is not fully broken in. Running an old square-tipped Zinger 20x10 pushing 7000 rpm last time I checked.

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Old 10-30-2002 | 07:37 PM
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Jason - I have the H9 Edge (given to me by a friend) and after stripping it down I'd say it is poor at best. Here are the problems:

Lots of joints NOT glued
Cracked bottom longerons
Cracked ribs or parts of ribs MISSING
Scrap balsa shoved and hot glued into spaces where wood did not meet
Right wing servo plate not glued at one corner (very distrubing)
Poor quality of balsa in the wing and aft formers

I could go on and on. Invest the time in a kit or plans is my advice. However, it will get you in the air faster and with less emotional attachment.

Marcus
Old 10-30-2002 | 09:43 PM
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sherlock,

NP, cant wait to finish it. i will be doing IMAC with it, so i ll see how it works for me. i can always wow them with the Ultimate..hehe

for others, ck out Joe's review/impression of it:
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Joe has a lot of experience with ARF's by looking at his list..

One must remember, ARF's tend to have quality issues. not all seem to be the same from #1 to 10000 it seems...
Old 10-30-2002 | 10:22 PM
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Well I have the H9 Edge and believe it is one of the finest looking airplanes in my hanger. However, I am not greatly impressed with the flying qualities. My analysis is that the aircraft is built too stout (heavy) for the wing area. Let me qualify this by saying I have not weighed my airplane on a accurate scale...only the bathroom style calibrated using iron lifting weights.

Looking inside the fuse you will find two ply of 1/8" ply glued together. My feeling is that this was overkill, however it certainly makes the plane more resilient to hard landings and overly vialent manuevers etc.... Combine the robust fuse construction with the 1010 wing area and it just does not like to fly slow.

My experience is that flaperons are very very necessary to avoid tip stalls at low speed or entering such manuevers as wall, elev, and harrier.

The manual is super. I learned more about 3d from Mike McConville's write-up than anyother source.

Having said all of the above this bird performs the flatest spins I've experienced.... Very very flat! The blender is awesome! Wing rock is a problem, but controllable with flaperons in the elevator and harrier.

Here's my config.

1.8 moki up front
2 futaba s9303mg for elevator located in the rear
1 futaba s9402 for rudder
2 futaba 39303 for ailerons
8uaps pcm receiver / xmiter

With servos in rear and moki not EXTRA weight required.

Biggest dissapointment was the elevator push rod...I really don't believe this type of control setup would have enough authority for this type / size of aircraft.

In comparison to my DP Extra....Love the Extra. VERY lite feel in the air...almost impossible to tip stall. Running the DP with a 2.1 moki...nothing less will due IMO.... Lands like a feather and recovers from failed hovers etc.. easily again no tendency to stall.

Sorry if this went way off the track of the original post ... can't even remember the original post! LOL

Take care.

Mike
Old 10-30-2002 | 11:33 PM
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I've got one with a Saito 180 in it. I've got about 40-50 flights on it. They have all been very demanding flights of the plane. I've never had a problem. The plane does all the 3D and does it well. The harrier is a little rocky, but it you ease up on the elevator it will get rock solid. My favorite maneuver it to take it high, throttle to idle, nose down dive, left aileron for a couple of rolls then left rudder, down elevator and keep the left aileron. Goes into a very nice and fast knife edge spin. Then for extra wows, switch to right rudder and add some power. You get a nice flat spin.

I did notice that the trailing edge sheeting on my wing just where the aileron was cut out is cracked. You can flex the wing up and down and see the covering wrinkle and get tight. I'm going to strip the whole thing down this winter, go thru it and then cover it in my own cover scheme.

I really like the plane, it is a great flyer and with the Saito 180 in the nose, it is unlimited with vertical performance. It isn't a ballistic rocket like a Moki 2.1 would be, but it pulls out of a hover with no problems.

Just my .02 cents.

Andy

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