I've got the Aeroworks 29% Edge I'll be flying in the spring. Just wondering how well it will harrier and elevator. I read somewhere it doesn't do them too well. A assume spoilerons should be utilized?

Thanks

Chris

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I bought a kit version of the 540T late in the fall and haven't flown it yet. It better harrier. That's my new quest. This is my first large scale and first gasser. My plane is here
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Chris, I heard just the opposite. The Edge does an elevator and a harrier extremely well and very slow. I hope so....I have one on the building board. As for spoilers I can't help you there.

I've always heard they were great for that kind of manuever, but I can't remeber where, but I read that they wouldn't do it well. So I thought I would ask. I can't wait to fly it!

I have the AeroWorks 540T with the BME 44 on it. I have only been able to get rock solid elevator and harrier a couple of times, even with the spoilerons. I continually have the wings rocking back and forth real bad. Other than that it is the best flying plane I have ever flown. It floats off the ground at a little less than quarter throttle and is rock solid with everything else.

Thats what I heard....

My DP Ultimate does the same but I believe it is just a characteristic of the manuever itself and not the planes. I believe this because after I learned how to do it I rarely ever experienced the rocking motion afterwards. Remember that the ailerons are EXTREMELY sensetive in the harrier and elevator and try not to use them if possible. You want them to remain as still as possible. Some planes will experience a slight drop in 1 wingtip. If that happens, give a slight amount of opposite aileron and hold it. Steer with slight rudder and slight bursts of throttle and you should be o.k. It will take a few times to get used to it but once you do, you'll have all eyes on you!

The Edge does the best Harrier of any RC plane made...no question about it. It doesn't matter what kind of plane you are flying, you'll have to be reactive on the ailerons to keep the wings level. You just have to do less with the Edge.

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Hey Tim! Since I haven't had the opportunity to fly my 105" Aeroworks, I was wondering if you know or think any reflex is needed/used? Thanks and come on spring

Hi Bob,
The only thing my 36% or 40%Edge did when I tried reflex, was make the plane drop into an elevator. It takes more power to hold the same altitude with reflex. it really didn't stabilize or level the wings. I don't even use it anymore. Not enough for me to notice anyway. I'm sure that will be different from plane-to-plane. For months I thought I was doing something wrong in the Harrier because I would jam in 45 degrees of up and expect the wings to lock in and stay level...not so. Get used to keeping the wings level with aileron. The wing drop is s- l- o- w on the Edge, so you'll have plenty of time to react. That is the main reason the Edge is not "super" in IMAC...because it doesn't readily drop a wing in a spin. But, like any plane with wings, it will eventually tip to one side or the other. Just correct with aileron. Practice, Practice.

Tim
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Hi Tim, How've ya been. What is "reflex"? I assume this is some sort of mix on a computer radio. What does it do?

By the way I've pretty much got the TR down on realflight with your "Practice Cap". Any other suggestions?

Thanks..........Mark

Some mix the spoiler in w/ elevator, others just flip a switch...Spoileron. Been good. Trying to sell one of my 40% Edges, I think you need one.

My edhe does a sweet harrier......no wing walking......

OS 1.60, 80" wing span, 12 lbs. 4 oz.........

Great flying bird.

Trying out a BME 44 on her this season.....

Pug

TimDavie,

You still selling a 40% Edge?

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I can get my Edge to elevator pretty good. How are you guys getting into the harrier? If I give it a little juice near the end of the elevator it wants to climb and porpoise sort of. What in tarnation am I doing wrong_bob

I have the 29% AW Edge and yes its a 3d heaven it will do it all. i do have a slight amount of flaps on full 3d throw to stop the wing rocking in the elevator on both regular and inverted. i have a 3.2 brison with all 8411 on my set up, my tail has been mod. durning the build up for 3d( add an 1 1/4 to the elevator and take 1" from the stab. ..............

Which way do they go on your set up

I got the 33% AW 540T ARF and it will harrier hands off (except for full up elevator of course!). Just slowly add in elevator until full deflection, then add throttle to adjust altitude... It's great!

Here it is: http://www.chrisgay.com/aeroworks_edge_540.htm

Compared to my Cap, it's a dream. The Cap wants to walk/wobble all over the place (then tip stall out)!!!!

-Chris

i have about 1/8-3/16 raise on full up elevator and the same but down on the ailerons on inverted elevator.......i do a elevator to flap mix with an offset that only comes in on the last 1/2 inch of 40 degress throw on elevator 1/2's......

You can get the wing rock to slow down if you get the plane at a higher angle of attack. Another way to get the wing rock down is to catch the wing rock. For example if when the planes rolls to the right and then when its about to go to the left about put in some right aleron and hold it, not a whole lot but just enough to stop the wing rock with pratice you can be able to get the rock to stop. Good luck
Alex

I have a H9 Edge and it will perform an elevator and harrier perfectly - sure makes me look good. Also does a wall awesome.

The setup instructions were written by Mike McConville (sp) TOC pilot. He suggests adding 3/16 inch spoilerons mixed with 3D elevator and from my experience with this plane it makes a huge difference when it comes to controlling wing rock. Without spoilerons the wings rock more frequently and a bit deeper.

Thought this might be helpful.

Mike

I also have the H9 Edge 540 and it does the Elevator and Harrier excellent. The difference between the elevator and the harrier is the throttle position. I also use the 3/16 inch spoileron in my plane to help tame the wing wobble and it works well. The only way spoileron is going to cause you to go into an elevator from a harrier is if you have too much programmed in! You also suppose to turn it on before the maneuver not during it. One of my favorite manuevers is to slow down to 1/4 throttle and slam the plane in a wall and then execute a single or double waterfall and comeout into a torque roll. Looks sweet.

If you can stay ahead of the wing rock it tends to dampen it out.
Once it rolls to the right and you correct, your too late. Try to input the correction before you see the wing go in that direction. Once you have it, you'll see that it will stay solid for a while. Generally the rocking will start again. It wont last long if you can figure out when it will start to rock again and be there with the aileron correction.

That's right.