Capiche surely?

Cap - eesch

Ka-pee-sh , know its french dunno wot it means tho[&:]
Flying scotsman, asp 52 2-stroke should go fine, dont know much about asp's tho. Friend has the 60 4 stroke in a seduction freestyle, really needs a bit more power, dont fink it will go verticle or prophang[&:]
other than that seems a nice engine.
or if u fly jr try 591s, much nicer servos than the 3003s.
3001s are also better, bout 10 quid an theyre ball bearinged.

whoops, posted at the same time as sprink.

591's suck, if i had the choice again i'd pick 3003's!!! over them, better is the new 3004, best is the 3010

true, but id use 591s over 3003s cos i fly jr not futaba and prefer it.
never tried a 3004, like the 3001s tho...

591s are slow. Got that punch that a cheeper servos hasnt. However, the 3010 has mor torque, faster and about a 5er more expencive

Ian

3010s definately are a lot better than the rest, worth the extra 5er, trouble it was an extra 12 quid cos i got mine b4 i found out about that offer eddy

Yippeee! at last, the motor and mount are with me.Thanks Royal mail, thats 6 days to go less than 200 miles,,excellent service! Anyway, I'll shut up about that now and get on with fitting the bits.As far as sidethrust goes, I wonder if I will need a tad more than the standard amount.I know that the baron set the original amount with a YS up front but the props used are larger now.What say you all?
Those ASP 52's ( 2 stroke ) are supposed to be really sweet and powerfull(longstroke). IF the 60 is the same weight I would go with that though, but I thought it was bigger and heavier.

JIM

For my saito 72 it needed quite a bit more. Think ive got something like 4 degrees+, but i need to check that.
It still needs more, but i have a mix programmed in to increase right rudder when you move the thottle stick forward.

You have to watch out on the ASPs, the 61 is a bored out 52, the 65 is a bored in 80. So the 61 is same weight but more power than the 52, the 65 the same weight and less power than the 80 [:@].

YS63 would still be first choice for me , but I don't have much in the way of money issues, left school a long time ago []

As long as you can prop hang with your chosen engine and do all the 3D your sorted. My I .53 better do that.

Thinking about it now, I'll purchase mine at Sandown.

Sprink, I'm sure your thinking of the 4 strokes but Flying Scotsman is on about the 2 strokes. I think.

Got the 3010s into my C50 tonight.
Even on a 4.8V pack they are easily visibly faster than the 591...

So almost a year on, my C50 is still getting better - thats what happens when you start with a budget set up and add to it !

I have the 14x5N on it so I hope to test it very soon with this prop and I will let you know... Im expecting it to be a better match.

Yes 4 stroke. I only think of 4 strokes these days.[&:]

http://veepers02.budlight.com/servic...1-B3EE4054966E
turn up the sound and click the link

sad

The C50 has right thrust, am I correct? So if the prop is turning right, torque moves in the opp direction? So the right thrust is to compensate for the left torque?

Side thrust is to counter the yaw effect caused by unequal airflow over the rudder (rudders tend to stick up more than down).

Amount needed depends on size and shape of rudder, and size and pitch of prop.

the way i lernt about torque was that air from the prop gets blown in a spiral down the plane then hits the tail at one side causing it to veer the tail to the oppocite direction to the props direction.
Im not very ghood at explaining things tho
Ian

philly: riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

welllllll, i wondered if it' work with a plane insted of a face, seams to tho the mough could be wider

EDDY, Torque is created by the engine turning, the plane wants to turn the other way, this is why my Dust turns into 8*tch when the engine cuts coz i had the trim over for full revs.
The spiral effect of propwash is something else entirely, most late WW2 fighters have the rudder off set to counter this.
as far as i'm concerned right thrust is to counter both of these to different amounts on different planes

i have never noticed the efect of torque in normal flight (just when hanging) but right thrust is there to counteract the (as eddy puts it) spiraling efect of airflow hitting the fin.

The ASP is a pretty strong motor, on 2 3stylas i fly, one with ASP .52 and one with Irvine .53, the ASP on a 12x7 has far greater performance than the irvine, and it seems a little lighter (contrary to many specifications) ... and it sounds nice! However, on a lesser pitched prop, the irvine can beat the performance of the ASP, probably down to torque issues.

At the end of the day the Irvine is probably a stronger motor, but it's more expensive too.

As for servos, the Futaba 3004s are pretty good for that type of application, especially if youre on a budget.

Sorry Nathan, The ASP 52S is much stronger than the I53! Its been easy to do a direct comparison as lots of clubmates own both and theres no contest! I'd go with the ASP over the Irvine every time. I'll try and get some figures next time I fly.

fly something with lots of torque vs little wing span, then you notice it in normal flight on most planes a mear hint of aileron counters the torque.
on my Dust the torque is VERY noticable[X(]

What about a ASP 4 Stroke Any good does any one have experience with these engines how are the compared to other brands. Would this be big enough to power the Capiche 50 verticaly