mojo / primo setup
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Hey guys, just got a primo ordered. I have a few options for setup, or I could buy new. Let me know what you guys have done.
It is a Primo 40. What would you guys do?
I have a tower .46, Tower .61, and a Saito .65 GK laying around. I could maybe scratch up a os .70 FS. (the saito is old, tired and needs work, but it will still go on something again though. If I put new bearings, and cleaned this baby up, would it be a good mate?)
I have lots of standards laying around, and some 3151 digitals. The 3151's should be plenty, right? (side note: Why can't you use 6V with those?)
Hardware? Are most of you using ball links?
What landing gear should I get?
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It is a Primo 40. What would you guys do?
I have a tower .46, Tower .61, and a Saito .65 GK laying around. I could maybe scratch up a os .70 FS. (the saito is old, tired and needs work, but it will still go on something again though. If I put new bearings, and cleaned this baby up, would it be a good mate?)
I have lots of standards laying around, and some 3151 digitals. The 3151's should be plenty, right? (side note: Why can't you use 6V with those?)
Hardware? Are most of you using ball links?
What landing gear should I get?
Thanks for responding!
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Hi Mark, Are you a member of the Profile Brotherhood? If join up and do some research there for lots of help. Just do a google seach on the general internet. You will be talking to the designer and lots of Mojo/Primo fans with lots of advice.
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The Primo/Mojo will work find with almost any standard servos but those Futabas would not be my first choice because they're pretty slow and (as you point out) they're not rated for 6V use.
So long as it is reliable and throttles reliably then the Tower46 is probably a good choice. The Saito would be a bit weak and the .61 would be way too heavy.
I've not used an OS70FL but I'm thinking that it might also be a bit down on power compared to the Tower 46.
As far as hardware goes 4-40 sized hardware of almost any kind will work just fine. I tend to use the Dubro safety-clevises and horns on my birds but I've seen them fly perfectly well with nothing more than piano-wire and Z-bends.
On my Mojo 60 I got all silly and used carbon pushrods but I doubt it really made a jot of difference.
So long as it is reliable and throttles reliably then the Tower46 is probably a good choice. The Saito would be a bit weak and the .61 would be way too heavy.
I've not used an OS70FL but I'm thinking that it might also be a bit down on power compared to the Tower 46.
As far as hardware goes 4-40 sized hardware of almost any kind will work just fine. I tend to use the Dubro safety-clevises and horns on my birds but I've seen them fly perfectly well with nothing more than piano-wire and Z-bends.
On my Mojo 60 I got all silly and used carbon pushrods but I doubt it really made a jot of difference.
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Of the engines you mentioned, the Tower 46 would probably be my first choice. But there are several engines that would be a MUCH better choice for a Mojo/Primo than the Tower 46.
If this is your first 3D plane, the 3151 servos will work OK. Several of us in my local club are running them on 6 volts with no problems. It's worth it to get the extra speed and power.
I'm a firm believer in short 2-56 rods with a Z-bend on one end and a DuBro safety clevis on the other. If you need a stiffer pushrod, you can sleeve the 2-56 rod with a carbon tube.
If you want to hear my no-holds-barred opinions about your questions you will have to ask over on the Profile Brotherhood website.
If this is your first 3D plane, the 3151 servos will work OK. Several of us in my local club are running them on 6 volts with no problems. It's worth it to get the extra speed and power.
I'm a firm believer in short 2-56 rods with a Z-bend on one end and a DuBro safety clevis on the other. If you need a stiffer pushrod, you can sleeve the 2-56 rod with a carbon tube.
If you want to hear my no-holds-barred opinions about your questions you will have to ask over on the Profile Brotherhood website.
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From: Tokoroa, , NEW ZEALAND
Nope... there's guys at our field using Magnum/ASP 91 2-strokers and they work just fine on a Mojo-sized model.
A Saito-100 is the ultimate but there's nothing wrong with an OS91FX if that's what you've got.
A Saito-100 is the ultimate but there's nothing wrong with an OS91FX if that's what you've got.
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From: Tokoroa, , NEW ZEALAND
Yes, the Mojo 60 a 91 is way too big for a Mojo 40 it wouldn't balance properly and the extra weight would adversely affect its flying characteristics.
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Conventional tuned pipes are great for all out speed but not for 3D applications (Bad Throttle response from idle to mid range).
With the .91 FX, I have personally bought this one:
[link=http://www.jettengineering.com/accy/jettstream.html]Jett .91 Tuned Muffler[/link] Mine broke at the header due to too much vibration tho.
This one will work as well:
[link=http://www.pspec.com/details.asp?ProdID=61&category=8]ultrathrust muffler[/link]
With the .91 FX, I have personally bought this one:
[link=http://www.jettengineering.com/accy/jettstream.html]Jett .91 Tuned Muffler[/link] Mine broke at the header due to too much vibration tho.
This one will work as well:
[link=http://www.pspec.com/details.asp?ProdID=61&category=8]ultrathrust muffler[/link]
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I use the Tower .75 muffler on my 91 FX. It works great and gives more power and nice transition AND it saves about two oz of the total package. Cheap as hell too, I do not know if they are back in stock at Tower by now
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There is a lot of debate about if the tower mufflers work as well as the ultrathrust / Jett mufflers. I do know that the tower mufflers work well, but I would not say they work as well as either the ultrathrust or jett.
$60 savings is nothing to sneeze at tho
$60 savings is nothing to sneeze at tho
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Heh, well you can't go wrong with the Mojo 60. Make sure you order the MOASS version (still just as stable, but really adds to the performance of the plane) If you don't own a BIG SUV / truck, get the removable wing option...I have a Saturn SUV and it BARELY fits.
IF this is going to be your "Beater" ...you might want to go with the tower muffler and save the good stuff for your next one
IF this is going to be your "Beater" ...you might want to go with the tower muffler and save the good stuff for your next one
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This will definitely be my beater. I have a Ford Explorer '97. Ill be getting the removable wing option then just in case and the tower muffler but my concern is that a poor engine transition will adversely affect the performance of the plane to the point which it crimps my learning.
Regarding the things I should order: I don't understand the website completely. At the top of the page there is a Mojo .60 Kit ($90 + shipping). Then at the bottom there are some other options, some which seem redundant like MoJo 60 Removable Wing Kit and MoJo 60 RW Kit, complete. What exactly should I order?
Regarding the things I should order: I don't understand the website completely. At the top of the page there is a Mojo .60 Kit ($90 + shipping). Then at the bottom there are some other options, some which seem redundant like MoJo 60 Removable Wing Kit and MoJo 60 RW Kit, complete. What exactly should I order?
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Light wood props help tremendously with transition (Such as the [link=http://www.swanyshouse.com/xoar/props.aspx]XOAR[/link] props), BUT they're so delicate that if you sneeze on them, they break. definitely not good for a beater unless you buy a dozen at a time
Just make sure that the engine is reliable and not leaned out too much. It'll have plenty of power.
You will want to add the Mojo 60 kit to your cart, the removable wing complete, and Moass Mod kit.
Just make sure that the engine is reliable and not leaned out too much. It'll have plenty of power.
Regarding the things I should order: I don't understand the website completely. At the top of the page there is a Mojo .60 Kit ($90 + shipping). Then at the bottom there are some other options, some which seem redundant like MoJo 60 Removable Wing Kit and MoJo 60 RW Kit, complete. What exactly should I order?
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I hope so because I fly well over 7500 ft. above sea level and engines tend to lose as much as 30% of total power at this altitude. Thanks for the order pointers, I'll do just what you said.


