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twist2 07-20-2005 12:53 PM

RE: Showtime
 
man, i can wait till i get this plane, and switch to JR brand everything, since people say JR is better than Futaba.

BoneDoc 07-20-2005 12:56 PM

RE: Showtime
 
anybody has flown the 3D Quest by UltraRC? Seems to be similar to this bird.

Garrelc 07-20-2005 12:57 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Hey all!

I am finishing my showtime with an Evolution 1.00, anyone using this combo? and what prop would be best for this plane and engine combo?

I am using 645mg for the aileron and rudder, 8101's for the elevator.

Trying to keep it light as possible

Thanks for all your help!

Ron Kinsey 07-20-2005 02:25 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Hey Guys,

Started building mine last night. Not in any hurry though, since I need to put in an order for the servos and another receiver, est. The hard part will be explaining another $250.00 to the wife...
Awesome plane, and I can't wait to get her airborne with all the rave I've heard on these threads.

Thanks to all who have submitted reviews, and critiqued this plane. I will surely take the advice and heed all warnings...Thanks Again!!

I'm off now to go install the "nutless" control horns...

rcflyguy_26 07-20-2005 02:38 PM

RE: Showtime
 
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Got mine today!!! 11:30am

Went right to work on it! It's all hinged and the O.S. 1.08 is mounted with a pica P-51 muffler... check it out.

Scott

P.S. so far I only had to make the inside ring bigger

raideron 07-20-2005 02:46 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Hi again people,

Barry.... My tubes slide in easy, and both seem tight while trying
to move the ends... I like but hate decals thats already on:-)
But I like it so far:D

BoneDoc... This is my first "tube" type plane in my 16mo of flying...
Is there not stops within the wing preventing the tube from sliding
one way or the other?? So what is the reason for the painters tape
mentioned above??

I do want a lower tail wheel setup... On the spring hook up.. I was
thinking of fabing a little bell type setup and just installing at the
normal screw point for the springs with two screws?? Or just order
the piece I think I saw at Central Hobbies for it. Is anyone else
having problems with spring breakages?
I just had the fuse out fitting and looking for areas that I will add
glue.. For the most part all looked to be pretty good... Guess I'll
just use CA on some of the areas that have little or no glue and
add more to the landing block area... along with epoxy on the tube

Anyone using pressurized systems have the tank behind the wing
tube?? Would that be a problem??

I was thinking again on the CA hinges since I have to order the
pinned hinges.. But I guess I will go with the pinned... I have
always wondered why a CA hinge would be cutout at the center
I guess I know the reason, But seems to me it would weaken it
more, out weighing hinge action, better bonding???? More so on
this type of plane.... Am I missing something??

And lastly:D, On the stab. tube.... Is it a must to tap it?? Can
you just screw another screw in for the tap?? So far I can't find
anyone with a tap.. And I hate to buy it if I really don't need it..
Bear with me people... I just want to get it the best I can, So
just incase.... I know it was just me....

BR289 07-20-2005 04:07 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Hello,
Just pick up a 4-40 tap/drill from Great Planes....its worth the $5.00. I used CA hinges, but I hate the cutout in the center so I always buy the Great Planes ones. After the serious flutter I had on my first Showtime,( the wing folded ) the hinges were still very tight, and there was no evidence of them pulling loose, so dont even worry about using the CA hinges ( just use the Great Planes ones so that you can stick a "T" pin in the center so the are even in the slots on both sides.
The stock Carbon Fiber tailwheel assembly, although nice is TOO BIG for this plane! It is exactly the same as the one that came with my H9 Extra 260 that I just built. I used a Carl Goldberg "medium size" one on mine. I tried the stock one for a few flights, but the angle of attack was no good, and the plane didnt want to lift off....After the change, no problem. The springs are junk. I broke one putting it on the 260, so I replaced them. I didnt even use them on the Showtime. The rudder is large enough to not need any springs, and steering is no problem.
The landing block is really strong, so unless you land really hard, its not a problem either.....
Hope that helps

raideron 07-20-2005 06:32 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Thanks BR289.... I'll look at G.P for the tap... Guess my "other" screw method
is not the greatest:-)... I have some "slit" CA hinges... But I think I'll go ahead
and order the pinned and use them.... I have never had a CA hinge come out
but some(6) split apart at the hinge line on my high use planes... Most likely
my fault, I did have a good gap, and I used the caryon on the hinge line( I
thought, if the CA wicks... What's the crayon going to do:-), but I tried it)...
But the pinned just makes more sense for these types of planes for me..
I'm still in the air on the tailwheel setup... Was just going to order another
C.F. setup.... But..... I've been looking online for parts to use the existing one
by just replacing some parts... But I guess I have to call to get better info..
On the L.G. block... I did add some glue to it.... But it looked pretty good,
and I am a "soft lander".... But this is the first "tapered" wing type for me,
and I have not heard of any bad habits on landing so I don't really see any
problems... I hope...
I'm not the greatest parts or builder man[:o] at this stage of my RC life...
And really I should have never got into this hobby... But as the Boss says
You "love" doing this too much!!!..... What happened to just two planes for
the first year[X(].... I said... I have two plane.... And......

Well I put the stock mount on and checked the fit with the YS 110/slimline
pitts.... It'll fit... per the 5&3/4 spacing... But the pitt's does "slightly" touch
the firewall?????

zurgreturns 07-20-2005 07:09 PM

RE: Showtime
 
sorry for your loss you might have luck if you send the plane back they might give you a new airframe
good luck

Ron Kinsey 07-20-2005 07:28 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Isn't Wednsday stupid question day? OK...Why on earth does H9 bother to percut servo holes in a plane, when you can't even fit a standard servo into them??? [:@] The same deal with my Twist! Go figure. :eek:

Glued up the control horns today...all seems good. They tell you to install wing tube and the wings and that's it. (now their in the way) They don't suggest a way to mount the tube into the fuse. I'm going to run a screw thru the fuse tube to secure it there dead center. Otherwise, as you pull off one wing, it will pull the tube from the other and cause trouble. That's how my other planes are done and it also makes for a nice handle to carry it by.

On to the rear tube...See Ya!

drumbum 07-20-2005 07:40 PM

RE: Showtime
 

ORIGINAL: Ron Kinsey

Isn't Wednsday stupid question day? OK...Why on earth does H9 bother to percut servo holes in a plane, when you can't even fit a standard servo into them??? [:@] The same deal with my Twist! Go figure. :eek:

Glued up the control horns today...all seems good. They tell you to install wing tube and the wings and that's it. (now their in the way) They don't suggest a way to mount the tube into the fuse. I'm going to run a screw thru the fuse tube to secure it there dead center. Otherwise, as you pull off one wing, it will pull the tube from the other and cause trouble. That's how my other planes are done and it also makes for a nice handle to carry it by.

On to the rear tube...See Ya!
ILL bet a JR servo would fit without cutting;)

drumbum 07-20-2005 07:43 PM

RE: Showtime
 

ORIGINAL: raideron

Hi again people,

Barry.... My tubes slide in easy, and both seem tight while trying
to move the ends... I like but hate decals thats already on:-)
But I like it so far:D

BoneDoc... This is my first "tube" type plane in my 16mo of flying...
Is there not stops within the wing preventing the tube from sliding
one way or the other?? So what is the reason for the painters tape
mentioned above??

I do want a lower tail wheel setup... On the spring hook up.. I was
thinking of fabing a little bell type setup and just installing at the
normal screw point for the springs with two screws?? Or just order
the piece I think I saw at Central Hobbies for it. Is anyone else
having problems with spring breakages?
I just had the fuse out fitting and looking for areas that I will add
glue.. For the most part all looked to be pretty good... Guess I'll
just use CA on some of the areas that have little or no glue and
add more to the landing block area... along with epoxy on the tube

Anyone using pressurized systems have the tank behind the wing
tube?? Would that be a problem??

I was thinking again on the CA hinges since I have to order the
pinned hinges.. But I guess I will go with the pinned... I have
always wondered why a CA hinge would be cutout at the center
I guess I know the reason, But seems to me it would weaken it
more, out weighing hinge action, better bonding???? More so on
this type of plane.... Am I missing something??

And lastly:D, On the stab. tube.... Is it a must to tap it?? Can
you just screw another screw in for the tap?? So far I can't find
anyone with a tap.. And I hate to buy it if I really don't need it..
Bear with me people... I just want to get it the best I can, So
just incase.... I know it was just me....
the tank, I have mine against the front of the tube, i didnt want to create the"tail first to nose heavy" the F90 does when behind tube

Ron Kinsey 07-20-2005 07:52 PM

RE: Showtime
 
You may be right...But don't you think they could give you a smidgen of extra room? Not everybody flys JR.... Did your's fit ok?

drumbum 07-20-2005 07:57 PM

RE: Showtime
 

ORIGINAL: Ron Kinsey

You may be right...But don't you think they could give you a smidgen of extra room? Not everybody flys JR.... Did your's fit ok?
no i cant afford JR servos.. i have hitecs. it took ever so slight shave with the dremel on both ends to get it to fall in.

Ron Kinsey 07-20-2005 08:07 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Cant really afford Futaba myself, much less JR. But hey...it's good stuff. But so is Hitec...

Thanks for your input...What a Guy! ;)

raideron 07-20-2005 08:22 PM

RE: Showtime
 
You mean I have to shave to get my Hitec's in... D_m... Oh well
what ever will work for you:-))))... But I like my beard.....
It's silver and black like... Have fun People:-)))

drumbum... But say I CG it to 7&7/16... It should be ok??? Huh???

drumbum 07-20-2005 08:28 PM

RE: Showtime
 

ORIGINAL: raideron

You mean I have to shave to get my Hitec's in... D_m... Oh well
what ever will work for you:-))))... But I like my beard.....
It's silver and black like... Have fun People:-)))

drumbum... But say I CG it to 7&7/16... It should be ok??? Huh???
whatever the manual says or foreward. going back past manual dont have any benifits. a couple of people on this thread allready tried it..

Ron Kinsey 07-20-2005 08:34 PM

RE: Showtime
 
If you move the CG back, that makes it "tail" heavy...right? That's what you want for good 3D...right?
Readeron...If you try that far back....Let me know if you needed a trash bag at the end of the flight, and/or how many peices you took home....

BR289 07-20-2005 08:36 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Actually, I was wrong about the tap/drill bit....its from Dubro.......

raideron 07-20-2005 08:48 PM

RE: Showtime
 
My Manual maybe wrong... But that's how it reads on page 33 step one???
Is my manual wrong... Or is the heat taking it's toll???

BR289.... Got the dubro tap..... Thanks:-)

drumbum 07-20-2005 08:56 PM

RE: Showtime
 
ok i didnt remember what it was at the manual. that is where mine is at.. mine flies with a slight tailheavy feel. like its set at 3d CG at that point.

raideron 07-20-2005 09:04 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Thanks drumbum... I double checked and thats what is said... And I
guess that's where I'll start??? Unless others have it different.. I've
flown my last two planes on the tail heavy side and I like it... The last
being a UCD 46 at 6"... It needs some "push" on landings, and it
climbs while inverted... But I like it......

drumbum 07-20-2005 09:11 PM

RE: Showtime
 
this plane will fly like that, without having to land with down elevator and fly with precision,,, OH yea and 3d:D I was actually thinking of trying a little foreward from recommended just to see if it helps a little with wing rock in harriers, I still have a little. i noticed YNOT said his was a little foreward and he reports NONE.

Ron Kinsey 07-20-2005 10:04 PM

RE: Showtime
 
Open Mouth...Insert Foot. Just read page 33 part 1...Wow that's far back! Nothing like my Laser or Giles. Guess it's that heavy taper... Sorry guys.


twist2 07-21-2005 08:26 AM

RE: Showtime
 
people say JR stuff is better, so should i switch brands? also, I'd like to know how that big block OS 1.08 beast of a motor does on this plane


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