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Old 04-11-2011 | 09:32 AM
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LCS
forget about him
he done run outta discussion a long time ago,
all he' doing now is attacking folks anonymocity and for using the word "dont"

pure RA
Old 04-11-2011 | 09:44 AM
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Now, that thar is funny.

The op had anticipated some interjected humor, along with a moderate expectation that thethread would be hijacked.

Thanks for following through.
Old 04-11-2011 | 09:55 AM
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Old 04-11-2011 | 10:02 AM
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Now, that thar is funny.

The op had anticipated some interjected humor, along with a moderate expectation that the thread would be hijacked.

Thanks for following through.

You're expectation was on track, but even even so you are doing better than par at keeping the thread on topic. Heck, I was mildly anticipating that the latest tangent would lead to answering the question of the current value of 30 Shekels.
Old 04-11-2011 | 10:17 AM
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Hmmmm,
Do you suppposethey all voted?

Sorry, poor word choice.
Old 04-11-2011 | 10:24 AM
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Hmmmm,
Do you supppose they all voted?

Sorry, poor word choice.
No. One announced that he didn't.
Old 04-11-2011 | 11:40 AM
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OFF TOPIC, no hijack intended:

RCU needs a "Dungeon" like some other forums have...you know, you enter at your own risk and guys can verbally duke it out. Really makes for some entertaining lurking.
Old 04-11-2011 | 06:08 PM
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Did you vote yet?
Old 04-11-2011 | 06:29 PM
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ORIGINAL: Silent-AV8R

yes I was paid for my time to testify (equal to my lost wages at work) and none of that changes anything I have written about the case. And none of this has anything to do with the topic.
Thank you Bill. Now I hope everyone understands your priorities a little better. Apparently you would rather miss work, from your chosen profession, to see that a severely injured AMA member could not cover his medical expenses... just to save the AMA a few dollars...

Now, see there guys...only profess to abiding by the rules...otherwise you could be on the short end of the stick... Yep,
"Be aware and prepared, or pay the price of ignorance" because some peoples reality is truly subjective...
Old 04-11-2011 | 06:45 PM
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ORIGINAL: Silent-AV8R

yes I was paid for my time to testify (equal to my lost wages at work) and none of that changes anything I have written about the case. And none of this has anything to do with the topic.
Thank you Bill. Now I hope everyone understands your priorities a little better. Apparently you would rather miss work, from your chosen profession, to see that a severely injured AMA member could not cover his medical expenses... just to save the AMA a few dollars...

Now, see there guys...only profess to abiding by the rules...otherwise you could be on the short end of the stick... Yep,
''Be aware and prepared, or pay the price of ignorance'' because some peoples reality is truly subjective...

Speaking of spin as you accused Bill of a few posts back...I think your reply to him above is spinning at about the speed of a gyroscope....

If you fell the need to continue to battle over this side topic and to continue berating Bill, wouldn't it make more sense to start another thread instead of taking this one on such a large diversion?

(Yes, I voted!)
Old 04-11-2011 | 06:46 PM
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Old 04-11-2011 | 07:20 PM
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Hmmmmmmm. You're smooth, slick.

Did you vote?
Old 04-11-2011 | 07:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: Silent-AV8R

Or in the real world one in possession of the facts would see that my involvement saved the defendant's insurance company from paying a claim to a person whose injuries were a direct result of their own willful negligence and dangerous actions. But at any rate, you've crossed a line so I am pretty much done with you. Perhaps that was your intent to provoke me, who knows. But I'm done here.
Ok, your not going to admit that any judgement would also fall on AMA in this situation... Doesn't California law require the insurance of AMA, secondary or not, to subrogate equally in a finding of liability such as this might have been?
Old 04-11-2011 | 07:23 PM
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Did you vote?
I can't say...LOL
Old 04-11-2011 | 07:28 PM
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I expected some moderate drift, but come on.
Go away.
Old 04-12-2011 | 03:58 AM
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My experience with two local clubs would indicate that everyone will continue to fly as they wish and no one in the club with authority will stop them..... Everyone here flys by the good old boy rules.... no AMA or other agency rules will be inforced if the members wish to fly high, wide and fast.... One big problem with the AMA Rules is that they are not rules... only recommendations....
Old 04-12-2011 | 05:42 AM
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ORIGINAL: CottcoRC

Did you vote yet?
Yes, I voted...care to guess yea or nay? (HINT: as a condition to use the field, my club is already required to abide by the 400 ft ceiling (since during weekdays this is an active airfield), and the 200 mph AMA gas-turbine speed advisory)

EDIT: Corrected the speed part of my original post, and amplifying remarks about the 400 ft ceiling.
Old 04-12-2011 | 05:57 AM
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ORIGINAL: CottcoRC

Did you vote yet?
Yes, I voted...care to guess yea or nay? (HINT: as a condition to use the field, my club is already required to abide by the 400 ft / 100 mph AMA advisory)
What AMA advisory is that?
Old 04-12-2011 | 06:10 AM
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ORIGINAL: CottcoRC

Did you vote yet?
Yes, I voted...care to guess yea or nay? (HINT: as a condition to use the field, my club is already required to abide by the 400 ft / 100 mph AMA advisory)
What AMA advisory is that?
Section A., paragraph 2., subparagraph (c) in this document, as best I can tell: http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/105.pdf I misspoke on the 100 mph limit, and corrected my post. We honor the 200 mph gas turbine rule. The main thing is we try hard not to ruin the good deal of getting to use this field...4000 x 150 ft runways, 18/36 and 9/27.

This said, I have no desire to start another raging back-and-forth about 'advisories', 'rules', 'regulations' that may or may not exist, that have been debated lately ad nauseum in numerous threads.
Old 04-12-2011 | 06:27 AM
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Tnx, Sluggo. Makes sense now. Had me scratching my head, as AMA has taken a strong position against altitude and speed limits recommended by the FAA sUAS ARC (the same limits you cited).
Old 04-12-2011 | 06:35 AM
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Glad you pointed it out...had 100 mph on the brain, and I WILL say that part will not be fun if it gets imposed.

The whole point of my post is that the part of the answer that says "...I surrender" is misleading. Some of us already, albeit theoretically, operate under some restriction. The rationale at "our" field is that on weekends civil flight training airplanes sometimes use this field when practicing engine-out procedures, and may not be aware that RC flying is going on.
Old 04-12-2011 | 06:36 AM
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Sluggo,
I dont get it,
you say you are required to follow the AMA advisory (aka Safety Code) 400' to use the field,
but that safety code simply has you make a call before going maybe thousands of feet above 400

so, to be clear on what you guys do,
are you staying below 400' per some field mandate
or are you obeying the AMA code that allows you to fly as many thousands up as you can see
Old 04-12-2011 | 06:39 AM
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Yes, officially we are supposed to stay 400 ft or below as a condition to be allowed to use the field...'nuff said.
Old 04-12-2011 | 06:40 AM
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I voted cottco , i somtimes get draged into these threads but i am kinda getting fond of just watching now . I see the same old crowd is here. I wish you luck cottco
Old 04-12-2011 | 06:42 AM
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ok, thanx for clearing that up
The way you said it earlier made it sound like you were only required by the field to obey the AMA,
not that the field had its own 400 ceiling regardless of what the AMA said you can do


So you will obey new rules at that field cause that field will make you,
how about in the big picture, will you do so at other fields
that follow the AMA 'voluntary compliance' guideline (aka just not volunteering to comply) of upcoming regs?
(like if you go fly with Richard39 above)


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