Another Drone Pilot does it Again
10-14-2015, 09:57 AM
#2576
FAA records detail hundreds of close calls between airplanes and drones - The
They're probably lying.
They're probably lying.
10-14-2015, 10:28 AM
#2577
They're probably lying.
FAA empire building.
10-14-2015, 10:31 AM
#2578
RC transmissions are digital in nature - pulsed to be specific.
10-14-2015, 12:12 PM
#2579
There are MANY possible solutions. Some are common sense based and some will likely be legislative in nature (like it or not).
You want to minimize the impact of a mid-air between a toy and a full-size, human carrying aircraft by saying, "it would likely only result in damage?". Hopefully you have considered ALL of the potential negative impacts a single incident of this nature will have on our hobby.
Regards,
Astro
10-14-2015, 01:21 PM
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How in the world did you come up with that conclusion from what I wrote?
There are MANY possible solutions. Some are common sense based and some will likely be legislative in nature (like it or not).
You want to minimize the impact of a mid-air between a toy and a full-size, human carrying aircraft by saying, "it would likely only result in damage?". Hopefully you have considered ALL of the potential negative impacts a single incident of this nature will have on our hobby.
Regards,
Astro
There are MANY possible solutions. Some are common sense based and some will likely be legislative in nature (like it or not).
You want to minimize the impact of a mid-air between a toy and a full-size, human carrying aircraft by saying, "it would likely only result in damage?". Hopefully you have considered ALL of the potential negative impacts a single incident of this nature will have on our hobby.
Regards,
Astro
Astrohog: Sport is negative on anything involving the FAA, and I mean ANYTHING.
He's anti FAA, they are Power Grabbers, look at his past posts,,, the FAA is just looking for a way to control everything that fly's. That how this guy thinks!!!
Not one of his posts are postiive in helping to find a way to fix a problem or at least a suggestion, he just say's it BOGUS, and deny's aircraft Safety in respect to this thread or any other.
Just ignore him and hope he goes away.........but knowing him, he won't. Just keep making people angry with his attitude. That's his story.
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10-14-2015, 09:51 PM
#2581
How in the world did you come up with that conclusion from what I wrote?
There are MANY possible solutions. Some are common sense based and some will likely be legislative in nature (like it or not).
You want to minimize the impact of a mid-air between a toy and a full-size, human carrying aircraft by saying, "it would likely only result in damage?". Hopefully you have considered ALL of the potential negative impacts a single incident of this nature will have on our hobby.
Regards,
Astro
There are MANY possible solutions. Some are common sense based and some will likely be legislative in nature (like it or not).
You want to minimize the impact of a mid-air between a toy and a full-size, human carrying aircraft by saying, "it would likely only result in damage?". Hopefully you have considered ALL of the potential negative impacts a single incident of this nature will have on our hobby.
Regards,
Astro
10-15-2015, 03:32 AM
#2583
I am not referring to receivers. I said transponder. Aviation transponders cost about $2,000. Others said to combine a transponder and receiver, which would be very expensive.
10-15-2015, 05:17 AM
#2584
No one (but you) is suggesting puttng a full-blown aviation transponder on a model airplane. Geez, only a fool would think that. But small, inexpensive transponders can and are being made Hydro Junkie's $60 receiver/transmitter only needs some software to make if ADS-like. As I've said over and over a transponder is nothing more than a receiver and transmitter. Maybe I should have added and some controlling circuitry/software for those who can't understand the concept.
10-15-2015, 06:26 AM
#2585
No one (but you) is suggesting puttng a full-blown aviation transponder on a model airplane. Geez, only a fool would think that. But small, inexpensive transponders can and are being made Hydro Junkie's $60 receiver/transmitter only needs some software to make if ADS-like. As I've said over and over a transponder is nothing more than a receiver and transmitter. Maybe I should have added and some controlling circuitry/software for those who can't understand the concept.
10-15-2015, 06:49 AM
#2586
Sportpilot, 2.4 GHz is right in the middle of the "S" radar band. "S" band radars are used for weather, moderate-range surveillance and terminal traffic control. This means that a standard airport radar could pick up a 2.4 GHz transponder signal from one of our receivers with very little modification to the receiver. Cost would be negligible since some receivers are already transmitting anyway
10-15-2015, 07:27 AM
#2587
Cost would be negligible since some receivers are already transmitting anyway
10-15-2015, 07:42 AM
#2588
So far, we've been so lucky. Lucky that a drone (quad copter) hasn't hit a full size aircraft. But when, (not if) it happens, we will quickly find out what the government will do. Everyone can be reasonably certain that it won't be good for our hobby/sport.
10-15-2015, 08:28 AM
#2589
Everyone can be reasonably certain that it won't be good for our hobby/sport.
10-15-2015, 10:09 AM
#2590
So if our cell phones can be tracked by the GPS in them and they don't cost gazillions of dollars then why not drones? Some of the quads available now have built in limitations allowing no more than 400ft in elv and 1000 ft in distance. I for one would not want to be flying in a small airplane or even an ultralight and be hit by a quad or conventional rc plane of any size. If a soft body bird can cause damage then what can 2-3 lb of model do to an aircraft traveling at 70-150 mph ? To say we should not worry at all is just plain ignorant. I just went before my local township board seeking permission to establish a flying field on public property and you can believe there is a real concern about drones and the issues they are creating. I am not against them but they need to be address by the ones who stand to lose the most when the law comes down.
10-15-2015, 10:39 AM
#2591
Ok this time I looked this up. Mode S is 1030 Mhz, or 1.3 GHz. That is way different than 2.4 Ghz But, I admit that I forgot we were now transmitting at such high frequency (geez above the space band!). But I don't think it will be the frequency but the power that is the issue. Besides even if I am wrong, nothing is cheap in aviation. Even hand held transceivers cost more than equivalent ground based radios. And $2,000 aviation transponders would likely cost $200 if they were for civilian use.
And 1030 MHz is 1.03 GHz and is L-Band.
10-15-2015, 10:46 AM
#2592
I wouldn't mind seeing FPV costs skyrocket. I doubt that it would have a significant effect on our hobby at all. But I do think that $10,000 fines and some jail time will have an effect on blatant violations of our hobby's rules.
10-15-2015, 05:24 PM
#2595
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i dont belive everything i hear about drones
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/hoverboard-duru-1.3270569
10-15-2015, 08:24 PM
#2596
In a word, NO. Since it has someone on board, it cannot be referred to as a drone as drones are unmanned and either pre-programmed with flight instructions or remotely flown by a pilot someplace else.
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10-16-2015, 06:53 AM
#2597
S band is the US is 2 to 2.36 Ghz Mode C is 1030 uplink and 1090 down link. I look this stuff up, not pretending to know it as you are.
10-16-2015, 06:54 AM
#2598
The FAA will not limit it to FPV this will be for all model aircraft, read the reports and you will see many reports of model airplane violations! They want to rule all.
10-16-2015, 07:18 PM
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