Another Drone Pilot does it Again
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Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot
Then again you can strap a bomb to it and kick it into a crowd! And it meets the definition of aircraft!
Probably the only one that counts the FAA's.
Historically, the FAA has considered model aircraft to be aircraft that fall within thestatutory and regulatory definitions of an aircraft, as they are contrivances or devices thatare “invented, used, or designed to navigate, or fly in, the air.”
I'd say that a football having a pointy end on each end and it is contrivances or devices that are “invented, used, or designed to navigate, or fly in, the air.” indeed meets the FAA's definitions of an aircraft, Of course that may only be in the Northern Hemisphere. Where the FAA makes up it's own definitions.
Then again you can strap a bomb to it and kick it into a crowd! And it meets the definition of aircraft!
Historically, the FAA has considered model aircraft to be aircraft that fall within thestatutory and regulatory definitions of an aircraft, as they are contrivances or devices thatare “invented, used, or designed to navigate, or fly in, the air.”
I'd say that a football having a pointy end on each end and it is contrivances or devices that are “invented, used, or designed to navigate, or fly in, the air.” indeed meets the FAA's definitions of an aircraft, Of course that may only be in the Northern Hemisphere. Where the FAA makes up it's own definitions.
#2828
FAA says it is any device designed to fly in the air, ballons and model airplanes are aircraft to them. So a football does fly though the air and is an aircraft. If you don't agree then maybe the FAA should instead require Frisbee's to be registered. I bet someone could attach a radio to one as well.
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FAA says it is any device designed to fly in the air, ballons and model airplanes are aircraft to them. So a football does fly though the air and is an aircraft. If you don't agree then maybe the FAA should instead require Frisbee's to be registered. I bet someone could attach a radio to one as well.
A device that is used or intended to be used for flight in the air.
I would be interested to see if there is a precedent anywhere in the world where a court has declared a football an aircraft...
Next thing you know the FAA will register all football players and the footballs will require N numbers.
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From the FAA site - definition of aircraft.
A device that is used or intended to be used for flight in the air.
I would be interested to see if there is a precedent anywhere in the world where a court has declared a football an aircraft...
Next thing you know the FAA will register all football players and the footballs will require N numbers.
A device that is used or intended to be used for flight in the air.
I would be interested to see if there is a precedent anywhere in the world where a court has declared a football an aircraft...
Next thing you know the FAA will register all football players and the footballs will require N numbers.
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Originally Posted by HoundDog
I'll give U that even but we weren't speaking of gold but
we were comparing Lead to feathers. Quote "Which weighs more a pound of Lead or a Pound of feathers".And so we have 16 ounces to a pound and 128 ounces to a gallon ... Now how much does a Gallon weigh.
Duncman
Actually more like 8.3454 pounds.
Gentleman this to is a trick question, U learned in your HS Chemistry class,for two reasons. The first thing we are talking of two different forms of measurement Dry Weight Ounces i.e. 16 oz to the pound. Second is Liquid oz 32 to a quart 128 to the gallon. The trick is what does a gallon weigh? A Gallon of WHAT is the first thing U must ask. Yes,Water is 8.3454 pounds. at sea level and 59 degrees f. Where If U fly full scale U know a gallon of gas weighs 6 Pounds and a gallon of Oil weighs 7.5 Lbs. What does a gallon of Mercury weigh?
[h=1]Mercury Conversion.[/h][h=2]Amount: 1 gallon (gal) of mercury volume
Equals: 112.95 pounds (lb) in mercury mass[/h]
I'll give U that even but we weren't speaking of gold but
we were comparing Lead to feathers. Quote "Which weighs more a pound of Lead or a Pound of feathers".And so we have 16 ounces to a pound and 128 ounces to a gallon ... Now how much does a Gallon weigh.
Duncman
Actually more like 8.3454 pounds.
Gentleman this to is a trick question, U learned in your HS Chemistry class,for two reasons. The first thing we are talking of two different forms of measurement Dry Weight Ounces i.e. 16 oz to the pound. Second is Liquid oz 32 to a quart 128 to the gallon. The trick is what does a gallon weigh? A Gallon of WHAT is the first thing U must ask. Yes,Water is 8.3454 pounds. at sea level and 59 degrees f. Where If U fly full scale U know a gallon of gas weighs 6 Pounds and a gallon of Oil weighs 7.5 Lbs. What does a gallon of Mercury weigh?
[h=1]Mercury Conversion.[/h][h=2]Amount: 1 gallon (gal) of mercury volume
Equals: 112.95 pounds (lb) in mercury mass[/h]
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See My post #211 in Define a Drone thread.
Note: I provided a URL so U and I are on the same track.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-j...l#post12155329
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Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot
Then again you can strap a bomb to it and kick it into a crowd! And it meets the definition of aircraft!
Probably the only one that counts the FAA's.
Historically, the FAA has considered model aircraft to be aircraft that fall within thestatutory and regulatory definitions of an aircraft, as they are contrivances or devices thatare “invented, used, or designed to navigate, or fly in, the air.”
I'd say that a football having a pointy end on each end and it is contrivances or devices that are “invented, used, or designed to navigate, or fly in, the air.” indeed meets the FAA's definitions of an aircraft, Of course that may only be in the Northern Hemisphere. Where the FAA makes up it's own definitions.
Then again you can strap a bomb to it and kick it into a crowd! And it meets the definition of aircraft!
Probably the only one that counts the FAA's.
Historically, the FAA has considered model aircraft to be aircraft that fall within thestatutory and regulatory definitions of an aircraft, as they are contrivances or devices thatare “invented, used, or designed to navigate, or fly in, the air.”
I'd say that a football having a pointy end on each end and it is contrivances or devices that are “invented, used, or designed to navigate, or fly in, the air.” indeed meets the FAA's definitions of an aircraft, Of course that may only be in the Northern Hemisphere. Where the FAA makes up it's own definitions.
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fly
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Who asked U. I know it's stupid but so are people that don't trace a thread back to it Origin so they know from where a comment comes. I was goofing with Sport_pilot & Rob2160 .
Just forget about replying to any of my comments PLZ. I'm tired of having to explain a Joke. Thank U In advance.
#2842
Yes but that meets the definition.
3. To move or be sent through the air with great speed: bullets flying in every direction; a plate that flew from my hands when I stumbled.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fly
3. To move or be sent through the air with great speed: bullets flying in every direction; a plate that flew from my hands when I stumbled.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fly
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Originally Posted by rgburrill
By your stupid analogy a bullet also flies in the air. It's ballistic trajectory, geez.
Thank U Sport_Pilot Does the Name mean U Posses a Sport Pilot Certificate from the FAA or does it mean something else?
By your stupid analogy a bullet also flies in the air. It's ballistic trajectory, geez.
Yes but the FAA said fly through the air so that meets the definition. See definition 3 below.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fly
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fly
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The name dates back to the early 90's when I was flying full scale, and decided it was such poor transportation I would only fly for sport. I just kept it when getting back to RC in the late 90's.
#2845
The name dates back to the early 90's when I was flying full scale, and decided it was such poor transportation I would only fly for sport. I just kept it when getting back to RC in the late 90's. I think I used it before they had a sport pilot certificate. I have a private pilot certificate and tried instrument rating but decided it was too dangerous for such poor transportation.
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Just answered the question, and I did give the precise weight of water in the following post. I'm not to sure about the value any of this has but it is a bit of fun.
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So Sport , I take this as your backdoor admission of the fact that one of our "toys" in a similar situation wouldn't "just bounce off like a bug on your car's windshield" as you've asserted in this and a couple other threads ? Nice to see you finally accept the fact that in spite of names like "Stratofortress" and nicknames like "Flying Boxcar" , these things structures are in grave peril when anything more than air & water hit them .
The point is this is no emergency and only a grab for control and money. There is no logical reason to register model airplanes or any sUAV intended to fly outside navigable airspace..