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12-01-2015, 09:06 PM
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My first Plane was a Profile C/L P-51 with a MaCoy .29 . But My First R/C was a trainer 60 with a K&B 61. If I could get it started great but out of the first 19 takeoffs it had 19 Dead sticks. Replaced the K&B wits an ASP 61 and flew that motor till it got so worn out it spit more fuel than it burned. The Trainer wayed an extra 4 Lbs. with all the Epoxy.
12-02-2015, 04:10 AM
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12-02-2015, 04:22 AM
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Jato, it never fails.
I could make a generalized, blanket statement like "Each generation of Man gets progressively less active and more obese" and someone like you will chime in and say..."NOT TRUE..I run 50 miles a week and I have 2% body fat..!"
See how that works...?
I could make a generalized, blanket statement like "Each generation of Man gets progressively less active and more obese" and someone like you will chime in and say..."NOT TRUE..I run 50 miles a week and I have 2% body fat..!"
See how that works...?
BTW, I do have about 2% body fat, but not because I run 50 miles a week. If I had to go that far I would drive. I only run to the bathroom!
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12-02-2015, 05:59 AM
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Mike just because the following rant is attached to a reponse to your post please don't feel it is directed at you.
The problem I see in this forum is the passion about this anti drone thing leads to some folks to making comments that paint people with a broad brush.
As far as drones...I own one. It's fun to fly. I also own helis, planes and RC cars and trucks. They are also fun to fly, except the cars and trucks
My local field does not embrace drones, so don't want to be a part of it. It's an RC flying field so my feeling is the club should embrace things that are RC controlled and fly, especially since the field, is a country owned park.I am an AMA member, but I am not an old time RC modeler. I joined the AMA when I got my drone (a gift from my wife) so I could learn about RC things that fly.
After I recieved my first few AMA magazines I was disappointed in what I felt was their biais toward airplanes and their lack of coverage of helicopters.and drones. I was actually bumed that even bothered to join as I didn't want to just read about airplanes. Yes I own planes but that is not all I am interested in.
Some people feel the AMA should not embrace drones, a drone is what got me into RC aircraft and why I joined the AMA. My drone has my AMA number on the side just like my airplanes and helis do.
The Academy of Model Aeronautics. That covers model aircraft that are non-human carrying. Is a drone not an model aircraft? What if it had wings and not rotors, doesn't that make it acceptable?
This months issue of the AMA Model Aviation magazine has a article called "Making The IMPOSSIBLE POSSIBLE The dream of flying unconventional aircraft". I don't see anyone complaining about the AMA having an article about a flying doghouse, a giant eyeball, R2-D2 or the Tardis, but people will complain if there is a article about a drone.
I am not deeply for or againt the AMA. When i think the AMA does not provide a worthwhile benefit to me I won't renew. What I don't understand is the people who are complianing so vehemently about the AMA is why renew if you are not a lifetime member? If you are lifetime member that's the chance you took, things change.
The statement on the AMA magazine under the Model Aviation name is "Bringing Modelers Together". I guess some would prefer that 'except modelers who fly drones" be added to that.
Oh don't have a problem registering my helis, airplanes, or drone. I would also like an "N" number.
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12-02-2015, 06:06 AM
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i don't claim to be a great pilot i am mediocre at best and my first plane was an electric trainer that is almost impossible to crash.
The problem i see in this forum is the passion about this anti drone thing leads to some folks to making comments that paint people with a broad brush.
As far as drones...i own one. It's fun to fly. I also own helis, planes and rc cars and trucks. They are also fun to fly, except the cars and trucks my local field does not embrace drones, so don't want to be a part of it. It's an rc flying field so my feeling is the club should embrace things that are rc controlled and fly, especially since the field, is a country owned park.
I am an ama member, but i am not an old time rc modeler. I joined the ama when i got my drone (a gift from my wife) so i could learn about rc things that fly.
After i recieved my first few ama magazines i was disappointed in what i felt was their biais toward airplanes and their lack of coverage of helicopters.and drones. I was actually bumed that even bothered to join as i didn't want to just read about airplanes. Yes i own planes but that is not all i am interested in.
Some people feel the ama should not embrace drones, a drone is what got me into rc aircraft and why i joined the ama. My drone has my ama number on the side just like my airplanes and helis do.
The academy of model aeronautics. That covers model aircraft that are non-human carrying. Is a drone not an model aircraft? What if it had wings and not rotors, doesn't that make it acceptable?
This months issue of the ama model aviation magazine has a article called "making the impossible possible the dream of flying unconventional aircraft". I don't see anyone complaining about the ama having an article about a flying doghouse, a giant eyeball, r2-d2 or the tardis, but people will complain if there is a article about a drone.
I am not deeply for or againt the ama. When i think the ama does not provide a worthwhile benefit to me i won't renew. What i don't understand is the people who are complianing so vehemently about the ama is why renew if you are not a lifetime member? If you are lifetime member that's the chance you took, things change.
The statement on the ama magazine under the model aviation name is "bringing modelers together". I guess some would prefer that 'except modelers who fly drones" be added to that.
Oh don't have a problem registering my helis, airplanes, or drone.
The problem i see in this forum is the passion about this anti drone thing leads to some folks to making comments that paint people with a broad brush.
As far as drones...i own one. It's fun to fly. I also own helis, planes and rc cars and trucks. They are also fun to fly, except the cars and trucks
my local field does not embrace drones, so don't want to be a part of it. It's an rc flying field so my feeling is the club should embrace things that are rc controlled and fly, especially since the field, is a country owned park.I am an ama member, but i am not an old time rc modeler. I joined the ama when i got my drone (a gift from my wife) so i could learn about rc things that fly.
After i recieved my first few ama magazines i was disappointed in what i felt was their biais toward airplanes and their lack of coverage of helicopters.and drones. I was actually bumed that even bothered to join as i didn't want to just read about airplanes. Yes i own planes but that is not all i am interested in.
Some people feel the ama should not embrace drones, a drone is what got me into rc aircraft and why i joined the ama. My drone has my ama number on the side just like my airplanes and helis do.
The academy of model aeronautics. That covers model aircraft that are non-human carrying. Is a drone not an model aircraft? What if it had wings and not rotors, doesn't that make it acceptable?
This months issue of the ama model aviation magazine has a article called "making the impossible possible the dream of flying unconventional aircraft". I don't see anyone complaining about the ama having an article about a flying doghouse, a giant eyeball, r2-d2 or the tardis, but people will complain if there is a article about a drone.
I am not deeply for or againt the ama. When i think the ama does not provide a worthwhile benefit to me i won't renew. What i don't understand is the people who are complianing so vehemently about the ama is why renew if you are not a lifetime member? If you are lifetime member that's the chance you took, things change.
The statement on the ama magazine under the model aviation name is "bringing modelers together". I guess some would prefer that 'except modelers who fly drones" be added to that.
Oh don't have a problem registering my helis, airplanes, or drone.
12-02-2015, 06:10 AM
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I don't claim to be a great pilot I am mediocre at best and my first plane was an electric trainer that is almost impossible to crash.
Mike just because the following rant is attached to a reponse to your post please don't feel it is directed at you.
The problem I see in this forum is the passion about this anti drone thing leads to some folks to making comments that paint people with a broad brush.
As far as drones...I own one. It's fun to fly. I also own helis, planes and RC cars and trucks. They are also fun to fly, except the cars and trucks My local field does not embrace drones, so don't want to be a part of it. It's an RC flying field so my feeling is the club should embrace things that are RC controlled and fly, especially since the field, is a country owned park.
I am an AMA member, but I am not an old time RC modeler. I joined the AMA when I got my drone (a gift from my wife) so I could learn about RC things that fly.
After I recieved my first few AMA magazines I was disappointed in what I felt was their biais toward airplanes and their lack of coverage of helicopters.and drones. I was actually bumed that even bothered to join as I didn't want to just read about airplanes. Yes I own planes but that is not all I am interested in.
Some people feel the AMA should not embrace drones, a drone is what got me into RC aircraft and why I joined the AMA. My drone has my AMA number on the side just like my airplanes and helis do.
The Academy of Model Aeronautics. That covers model aircraft that are non-human carrying. Is a drone not an model aircraft? What if it had wings and not rotors, doesn't that make it acceptable?
This months issue of the AMA Model Aviation magazine has a article called "Making The IMPOSSIBLE POSSIBLE The dream of flying unconventional aircraft". I don't see anyone complaining about the AMA having an article about a flying doghouse, a giant eyeball, R2-D2 or the Tardis, but people will complain if there is a article about a drone.
I am not deeply for or againt the AMA. When i think the AMA does not provide a worthwhile benefit to me I won't renew. What I don't understand is the people who are complianing so vehemently about the AMA is why renew if you are not a lifetime member? If you are lifetime member that's the chance you took, things change.
The statement on the AMA magazine under the Model Aviation name is "Bringing Modelers Together". I guess some would prefer that 'except modelers who fly drones" be added to that.
Oh don't have a problem registering my helis, airplanes, or drone.
Mike just because the following rant is attached to a reponse to your post please don't feel it is directed at you.
The problem I see in this forum is the passion about this anti drone thing leads to some folks to making comments that paint people with a broad brush.
As far as drones...I own one. It's fun to fly. I also own helis, planes and RC cars and trucks. They are also fun to fly, except the cars and trucks
My local field does not embrace drones, so don't want to be a part of it. It's an RC flying field so my feeling is the club should embrace things that are RC controlled and fly, especially since the field, is a country owned park.I am an AMA member, but I am not an old time RC modeler. I joined the AMA when I got my drone (a gift from my wife) so I could learn about RC things that fly.
After I recieved my first few AMA magazines I was disappointed in what I felt was their biais toward airplanes and their lack of coverage of helicopters.and drones. I was actually bumed that even bothered to join as I didn't want to just read about airplanes. Yes I own planes but that is not all I am interested in.
Some people feel the AMA should not embrace drones, a drone is what got me into RC aircraft and why I joined the AMA. My drone has my AMA number on the side just like my airplanes and helis do.
The Academy of Model Aeronautics. That covers model aircraft that are non-human carrying. Is a drone not an model aircraft? What if it had wings and not rotors, doesn't that make it acceptable?
This months issue of the AMA Model Aviation magazine has a article called "Making The IMPOSSIBLE POSSIBLE The dream of flying unconventional aircraft". I don't see anyone complaining about the AMA having an article about a flying doghouse, a giant eyeball, R2-D2 or the Tardis, but people will complain if there is a article about a drone.
I am not deeply for or againt the AMA. When i think the AMA does not provide a worthwhile benefit to me I won't renew. What I don't understand is the people who are complianing so vehemently about the AMA is why renew if you are not a lifetime member? If you are lifetime member that's the chance you took, things change.
The statement on the AMA magazine under the Model Aviation name is "Bringing Modelers Together". I guess some would prefer that 'except modelers who fly drones" be added to that.
Oh don't have a problem registering my helis, airplanes, or drone.
Mike
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12-02-2015, 06:20 AM
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12-02-2015, 06:30 AM
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No offense taken. One thought though. You ask why people renew if unhappy with the direction of the organization. It's very simple flying sites require a AMA membership and if they want to fly they must be a AMA member. That's the bottom line. My homeowners is my insurance the AMA is secondary nothing more but I am a member.
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12-02-2015, 07:53 AM
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You are very well focused on your personal wants and desires but not much beyond that.
Many of us who are labeled "Anti Drone" have nothing against these machines in the technical sense but we are able to see far enough ahead to realize that being associated with drones in any way will drag us into Federal regulation.
Since you are a short time AMA member and have not spent much of your life being able to enjoy this sport unencumbered by Federal oversight I do not expect you to understand.
Many of us who are labeled "Anti Drone" have nothing against these machines in the technical sense but we are able to see far enough ahead to realize that being associated with drones in any way will drag us into Federal regulation.
Since you are a short time AMA member and have not spent much of your life being able to enjoy this sport unencumbered by Federal oversight I do not expect you to understand.
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12-02-2015, 08:51 AM
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Just received an email from the AMA with an Info Video attached. Perhaps I heard it wrong but the new proposition is NOT to have the models registered ! They now want the " Pilots " registered. Each pilot will receive a number and must be displayed on the model.
Are all of you ready for that one ? Personally to me it seems like the government already has enough information about me. Perhaps they could use my Social Security number ? Perhaps they could use my United States Air Force serial number ? Perhaps they could use my Airline Transport Certificate number ? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wait, those numbers are already taken. Now they want to issue me another number. Wonderful !!!!
Are all of you ready for that one ? Personally to me it seems like the government already has enough information about me. Perhaps they could use my Social Security number ? Perhaps they could use my United States Air Force serial number ? Perhaps they could use my Airline Transport Certificate number ? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wait, those numbers are already taken. Now they want to issue me another number. Wonderful !!!!
12-02-2015, 09:00 AM
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Combatpigg It does not matter how much time I have spent in this hobby I understand prejudice.
A drone is a RC aircraft, like it or not and it should not be subjected to any regulation that any other RC aircraft isn't.
I could also say you are very well focused on your personal wants and desires but not much beyong that. See how that works..?
Combatpigg said You are very well focused on your personal wants and desires but not much beyond that.
Many of us who are labeled "Anti Drone" have nothing against these machines in the technical sense but we are able to see far enough ahead to realize that being associated with drones in any way will drag us into Federal regulation.
Since you are a short time AMA member and have not spent much of your life being able to enjoy this sport unencumbered by Federal oversight I do not expect you to understand."
A drone is a RC aircraft, like it or not and it should not be subjected to any regulation that any other RC aircraft isn't.
I could also say you are very well focused on your personal wants and desires but not much beyong that. See how that works..?
Combatpigg said You are very well focused on your personal wants and desires but not much beyond that.
Many of us who are labeled "Anti Drone" have nothing against these machines in the technical sense but we are able to see far enough ahead to realize that being associated with drones in any way will drag us into Federal regulation.
Since you are a short time AMA member and have not spent much of your life being able to enjoy this sport unencumbered by Federal oversight I do not expect you to understand."
12-02-2015, 09:56 AM
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Combatpigg It does not matter how much time I have spent in this hobby I understand prejudice.
A drone is a RC aircraft, like it or not and it should not be subjected to any regulation that any other RC aircraft isn't.
I could also say you are very well focused on your personal wants and desires but not much beyong that. See how that works..?
A drone is a RC aircraft, like it or not and it should not be subjected to any regulation that any other RC aircraft isn't.
I could also say you are very well focused on your personal wants and desires but not much beyong that. See how that works..?
I WANT to be able to fly open exhaust planes at 150 mph wherever I please, but I realize that there are POSSIBLE negative consequences if I don't exercise some discretion, some self control and the ability to see future bad relations with the public.
see how that works...?
Just curious and I am looking for a YES or NO answer from you.
When a drone is flown beyond LOS over populated areas, over traffic, etc....do you think that the operator is putting the safety of the unsuspecting public at risk...?
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12-02-2015, 10:02 AM
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Wrong.
I WANT to be able to fly open exhaust planes at 150 mph wherever I please, but I realize that there are POSSIBLE negative consequences if I don't exercise some discretion, some self control and the ability to see future bad relations with the public.
see how that works...?
I WANT to be able to fly open exhaust planes at 150 mph wherever I please, but I realize that there are POSSIBLE negative consequences if I don't exercise some discretion, some self control and the ability to see future bad relations with the public.
see how that works...?
12-02-2015, 10:09 AM
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12-02-2015, 10:11 AM
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If drone operators kept their "aircraft" out of restricted airspace there wouldn't be a problem. PERIOD If I owned a drone, you would not find me flying it in restricted airspace, over a crowd of people, over my neighbors house or property, etc., not sure why so many drone operators think they can fly their drones where ever they dang well please. Never tolerated people flying fixed wing aircraft over my head, have no intention tolerating folks who fly drones over my head. There is a large group of us ol' Farts who enjoy a good dose of glow fuel in an open wound first thing in the morning and be able to remain unregulated while enjoying our hobby, doing it safely, like we have done for decades. Go after the offender, throw out the bad apple, not the whole barrel. registration will not increase safety, it's only being proposed because some one thinks they have to do something, even if it's useless. If drone operators are not accepted at a particular club, go form your own drone club, been a member of many clubs, moved to many new fields as old ones were developed, etc., we built the club, we set the rules, you don't like it, tough.
12-02-2015, 10:47 AM
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How does that differ from the responsible drone flyers out there?
12-02-2015, 11:10 AM
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Wrong.
I WANT to be able to fly open exhaust planes at 150 mph wherever I please, but I realize that there are POSSIBLE negative consequences if I don't exercise some discretion, some self control and the ability to see future bad relations with the public.
see how that works...?
Just curious and I am looking for a YES or NO answer from you.
When a drone is flown beyond LOS over populated areas, over traffic, etc....do you think that the operator is putting the safety of the unsuspecting public at risk...?
I WANT to be able to fly open exhaust planes at 150 mph wherever I please, but I realize that there are POSSIBLE negative consequences if I don't exercise some discretion, some self control and the ability to see future bad relations with the public.
see how that works...?
Just curious and I am looking for a YES or NO answer from you.
When a drone is flown beyond LOS over populated areas, over traffic, etc....do you think that the operator is putting the safety of the unsuspecting public at risk...?
12-02-2015, 11:34 AM
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As I said before you anti-droners paint every drone owner with a broad brush. You act as if no fixed wing pilot has never broken a rule or flown it responsibly. If they do would you be OK with punishment or regulation for every fixed wing pilot? Because that what you are figure is good for drone owners.
12-02-2015, 11:44 AM
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We wouldn't have any issue if we lived in a perfect world that contained ONLY responsible drone flyers. But we both know that such a world does not exist.
The irresponsible Traditional RC flyers through the years simply haven't generated enough negative attention from the public or the feds to have caused this much of a problem.
In the Real World, not many owners of sophisticated Drones [that are capable of making a cash withdrawl at a ATM machine] will be content to fly within the safe confines of your typical AMA club field.
You don't need to be very "gifted" to be able to see that.
The irresponsible Traditional RC flyers through the years simply haven't generated enough negative attention from the public or the feds to have caused this much of a problem.
In the Real World, not many owners of sophisticated Drones [that are capable of making a cash withdrawl at a ATM machine] will be content to fly within the safe confines of your typical AMA club field.
You don't need to be very "gifted" to be able to see that.
12-02-2015, 12:11 PM
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Just received an email from the AMA with an Info Video attached. Perhaps I heard it wrong but the new proposition is NOT to have the models registered ! They now want the " Pilots " registered. Each pilot will receive a number and must be displayed on the model.
Are all of you ready for that one ? Personally to me it seems like the government already has enough information about me. Perhaps they could use my Social Security number ? Perhaps they could use my United States Air Force serial number ? Perhaps they could use my Airline Transport Certificate number ? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wait, those numbers are already taken. Now they want to issue me another number. Wonderful !!!!
Are all of you ready for that one ? Personally to me it seems like the government already has enough information about me. Perhaps they could use my Social Security number ? Perhaps they could use my United States Air Force serial number ? Perhaps they could use my Airline Transport Certificate number ? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wait, those numbers are already taken. Now they want to issue me another number. Wonderful !!!!
12-02-2015, 12:33 PM
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Wrong.
I WANT to be able to fly open exhaust planes at 150 mph wherever I please, but I realize that there are POSSIBLE negative consequences if I don't exercise some discretion, some self control and the ability to see future bad relations with the public.
see how that works...?
Just curious and I am looking for a YES or NO answer from you.
When a drone is flown beyond LOS over populated areas, over traffic, etc....do you think that the operator is putting the safety of the unsuspecting public at risk...?
I WANT to be able to fly open exhaust planes at 150 mph wherever I please, but I realize that there are POSSIBLE negative consequences if I don't exercise some discretion, some self control and the ability to see future bad relations with the public.
see how that works...?
Just curious and I am looking for a YES or NO answer from you.
When a drone is flown beyond LOS over populated areas, over traffic, etc....do you think that the operator is putting the safety of the unsuspecting public at risk...?
If The Traditional 7 Lb. FIXed Wing that crashed on the road a half mile away 3 days ago would have gone another 165' it would have hit right in the middle of a some Unsuspecting guys house.
FPV with small Quads or Fomies is less dangerous when flown properly than some Nit Wit that can't keep a TRADITIONAL Toy Airplane in the air. And Don't tell me U don't know anyone like that because every club has at least one if not a few people that really should be playing with R/C Sail Boats at best or only the use of a Flight Simulator.