Third option for us old farts. We are so far from anything no one cares.

Can you imagine the impact it will have on Nall and the like? Maybe we need to get Trump involved, he like killing regulations, and this one is right up his alley.

https://www.facebook.com/joel.a.wils...BvHto-kuNfwpMB

"Page not found" .....

That's FB, which is apparently not allowed on forums, unless you're signed on. Joel A. Wilson on FB. He's in charge of Professional Modelers of America. He's pictured with Trump.

Thank You Fliers1 , I appreciate the response . It would be great if Trump stepped in on our behalf , but I think the guy has bigger fish to fry at the moment with the Impeachment and all ...

Could be, but all you have to say is the previous administration is all for these regulations.

Oh my, there are some GREAT pics on his page. I am still laughing at General Nancy Bin Drinkin.

However, who is he, and what can he do for for Model Aviation?

He is notable in the turbine community. He and some others from F3A, IMAC, and sailplane disciplines have been working for a couple years setting up an alternative CBO which they gave the unfortunate name (IMO) of Professional Modelers Association. They intend to offer members 2 million in primary insurance and negotiate with FAA for higher flying ceilings. No website yet -- but lots of vapor.

https://www.change.org/p/federal-avi...ion-by-the-faa

I've been saying that in order to win this game we not only need to mount a good defense of what we currently have, but we also need to go on the offense and pop the delivery drone bubble that's the motivation behind all of this.

With that in mind I've just created a Petition which will be sent to all governors, President Trump, Amazon, and others. Frankly - they may ignore it and some (most) probably will. However -- we need to flank the enemy and hit them from all sides.
It's my hope that some of you will find this a positive contribution to the issue and jump on this -- posting to your FB - or wherever else you can. I'd like to enlist the general public - not just modelers in this fight and I believe this is one way.
The link is http://chng.it/vHFsxJyQft (text below)

If you disagree -- don't sign the petition. If you agree please help me blow up the internet with resistance.
Please don't allow this post to hijack the thread. Please don't discuss it's merit or lack thereof here. It's the best I could do -- and to some it will be flawed -- but it's better than nothing. The site will likely hit you up for a donation. There are better places to put your money. All I'm asking for is support.


Prohibit Commercial Drones from operating over private property or residential areas <400'


A number of business are endeavoring to create Unmanned Arial Systems to deliver packages. While we're not opposed to new opportunities afforded by advanced in technology, these opportunities must not impinge on the individuals safety, security, comfort, privacy, or property.

The sound of Drones, their physical presence agitating livestock, domestic pets and residents as well as the danger of having them fall from the sky over private property are in direct conflict with ad coelum doctrine which, from common law, states that a property owner owns not only the plot of land but also the space above the plot.

In United States v. Causby

The court held the public's right of flight does not extend downward to the earth's surface. finding "if the landowner is to have full enjoyment of the land, he must have exclusive control of the immediate reaches of the enveloping atmosphere. Otherwise, buildings could not be erected, trees could not be planted, and even fences could not be run" …“The fact that he does not occupy [space] in a physical sense -- by the erection of buildings and the like -- is not material. As we have said, the flight of airplanes, which skim the surface but do not touch it, is as much an appropriation of the use of the land as a more conventional entry upon it.

Commercial Drones or UAS must not be allowed to operate over private property or residential areas. To do so is a violation of property owners property, security, comfort, privacy, and safety.