Remote ID postponed
09-07-2023 | 08:34 AM
#2
Or maybe not.. The comment in the article is "The statement, “You’re going to get relief – we just don’t know what that relief looks like yet,” strongly suggests a delay in the implementation of Remote ID. " is a conclusion drawn by the author from a vague comment made by one FAA representative, and not an official announcement.
09-07-2023 | 03:16 PM
#7
Senior Member
As confirmed yesterday by David Boulter, FAA Associate Administrator for Aviation Safety, at the Commercial UAS Expo in Las Vegas. Sometime before the September 16 launch date.
Sorry AMA, too busy with drones to talk to you.
DroneU doesn't cite the source but it's video of Boulter's keynote speech put out by the Commercial UAV Expo, linked to by a commercial drone photographer on YouTube, the first at least I believe.
To see it for yourself and hear the infamous Lisa Ellman gush over it:
Sorry AMA, too busy with drones to talk to you.
DroneU doesn't cite the source but it's video of Boulter's keynote speech put out by the Commercial UAV Expo, linked to by a commercial drone photographer on YouTube, the first at least I believe.
To see it for yourself and hear the infamous Lisa Ellman gush over it:
Last edited by ECHO24; 09-07-2023 at 03:40 PM.
09-07-2023 | 03:25 PM
#8
Senior Member
He cites the chip shortage and supply chain issues. As for why so close to the deadline, he said because there are so many agencies involved the FAA first needed real data (from the commercial drone world!) on exactly who not would be able to comply.
09-07-2023 | 06:46 PM
#9
Senior Member
So now we know we can thank the commercial drone industry lobbyists for any RID postponement.
AMA's press release, "AMA's efforts for our members has paid off. We've worked diligently, blah, blah, blah".
Edit: Hopscotch Interactive is who received the courtesy letter from the FAA last week. Sorry AMA, we're busy right now, a lot of Part 107 operators are concerned.
AMA's press release, "AMA's efforts for our members has paid off. We've worked diligently, blah, blah, blah".
Edit: Hopscotch Interactive is who received the courtesy letter from the FAA last week. Sorry AMA, we're busy right now, a lot of Part 107 operators are concerned.
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09-08-2023 | 04:36 AM
#10
Maybe I'm being too literal, but he was speaking to a commercial UAS audience, at a commercial UAS event. So when he said "You ... will get relief," who exactly is included in that "YOU"? Commercial only (audience) or commercial AND recreational? While either is possible, remember that commercial operators have taken a higher level of test and actually have an FAA designation. So one could argue that it's lower risk to provide them (only) relief since FAA has more power over them (license to operate) should they goon it up.
09-08-2023 | 04:56 AM
#11
I agree with you. Commercial interests are driving this relief.
Maybe I'm being too literal, but he was speaking to a commercial UAS audience, at a commercial UAS event. So when he said "You ... will get relief," who exactly is included in that "YOU"? Commercial only (audience) or commercial AND recreational? While either is possible, remember that commercial operators have taken a higher level of test and actually have an FAA designation. So one could argue that it's lower risk to provide them (only) relief since FAA has more power over them (license to operate) should they goon it up.
Maybe I'm being too literal, but he was speaking to a commercial UAS audience, at a commercial UAS event. So when he said "You ... will get relief," who exactly is included in that "YOU"? Commercial only (audience) or commercial AND recreational? While either is possible, remember that commercial operators have taken a higher level of test and actually have an FAA designation. So one could argue that it's lower risk to provide them (only) relief since FAA has more power over them (license to operate) should they goon it up.
09-08-2023 | 05:24 AM
#12
Don't believe it? Type “AMA will never be allowed to administer TRUST “, including quote marks into the RCU search tool, then select my username, and search "posts" radio button. Result? Nothing found.
Did I say probably not? Maybe not? etc.? Sure. I'm smart enough to rarely make absolute statements. But even in the thread on this very topic, what Speedy omitted, conveniently, is I said I'd actually be in favor of them doing. In fact, I think I said "Today I thought of another thing that probably hasn't occurred to the AMA, and may change me to one who strongly encourages AMA to offer the testing." Post #43 at the appended location.
FAA Test...AMA administer? And pigs might fly!
09-08-2023 | 06:22 AM
#14
What Speedy alleged that I said:How I responded:
And unable to show that I actually said what Speedy "says" I said, he resorts to his traditional defense - name calling
09-08-2023 | 06:56 AM
#16
What Speedy alleged that I said:
How I responded:
And unable to show that I actually said what Speedy "says" I said, he resorts to his traditional defense - name callingWhat someone says when they can't prove that I said what they alleged I'd said:
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09-08-2023 | 07:26 AM
#17
Tyler Dobbs facial expressions at the beginning and end says it all ... This was yet another gut punch.
AMA is patting itself on the back for making the content easy, which is at best a temporary victory - rules say FAA can change the content at any time. "Celebrating" that they can add content? Curious, given they didn't want a test at all. They're grasping at anything to spin as a victory.
This is a huge risk for the AMA if they even try to be an Test Administrator. The reporting, record keeping, and security requirements are significant. Imagine the embarrassment of having their certification revoked. AMA can't get their EC minutes out on time. They send membership cards to wrong addresses. Etc. there's no way they have the discipline to run a system like this.
AMA is patting itself on the back for making the content easy, which is at best a temporary victory - rules say FAA can change the content at any time. "Celebrating" that they can add content? Curious, given they didn't want a test at all. They're grasping at anything to spin as a victory.
This is a huge risk for the AMA if they even try to be an Test Administrator. The reporting, record keeping, and security requirements are significant. Imagine the embarrassment of having their certification revoked. AMA can't get their EC minutes out on time. They send membership cards to wrong addresses. Etc. there's no way they have the discipline to run a system like this.
09-08-2023 | 08:56 AM
#18
What Speedy alleged that I said:How I responded:
Showing that once more you just like to troll.
Everyone note what's missing from the quote ElectriMan chose. The quote of mine he chose does NOT contain the statement that Speedy attributed to me. It never ceases to amaze me how some in these forums will read into statements things that simply were never said.
And unable to show that I actually said what Speedy "says" I said, he resorts to his traditional defense - name callingWhat someone says when they can't prove that I said what they alleged I'd said:
ElecriMan tries to salvage Speedy from his self-dug hole by noting:
Tyler Dobbs facial expressions at the beginning and end says it all ... This was yet another gut punch.
AMA is patting itself on the back for making the content easy, which is at best a temporary victory - rules say FAA can change the content at any time. "Celebrating" that they can add content? Curious, given they didn't want a test at all. They're grasping at anything to spin as a victory.
This is a huge risk for the AMA if they even try to be an Test Administrator. The reporting, record keeping, and security requirements are significant. Imagine the embarrassment of having their certification revoked. AMA can't get their EC minutes out on time. They send membership cards to wrong addresses. Etc. there's no way they have the discipline to run a system like this.
AMA is patting itself on the back for making the content easy, which is at best a temporary victory - rules say FAA can change the content at any time. "Celebrating" that they can add content? Curious, given they didn't want a test at all. They're grasping at anything to spin as a victory.
This is a huge risk for the AMA if they even try to be an Test Administrator. The reporting, record keeping, and security requirements are significant. Imagine the embarrassment of having their certification revoked. AMA can't get their EC minutes out on time. They send membership cards to wrong addresses. Etc. there's no way they have the discipline to run a system like this.
Showing that once more you just like to troll.
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09-08-2023 | 09:27 AM
#19
Franklin_M quote
And you'll note that nobody said there wasn't value. What we actually noted that if it was done as a recruiting tool, it's carries a rather high (and I'd argue unsustainable) member acquisition cost.
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You mean like when you said this AFTER you were told twice that the event was not a recruiting tool.
Maybe people should take your advice about using a forum search tool, only do it over at RCG and search for posts by SterlingD. Very interesting reading that would certainly shed some light on how desperate you are to undermine the AMA and it’s members.
And you'll note that nobody said there wasn't value. What we actually noted that if it was done as a recruiting tool, it's carries a rather high (and I'd argue unsustainable) member acquisition cost.
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You mean like when you said this AFTER you were told twice that the event was not a recruiting tool.
Maybe people should take your advice about using a forum search tool, only do it over at RCG and search for posts by SterlingD. Very interesting reading that would certainly shed some light on how desperate you are to undermine the AMA and it’s members.
09-08-2023 | 09:58 AM
#20
Just as you're desperate to believe I said something I did not say (see above), you're similarly desperate to believe that someone on RCG is me, when it is not.
09-09-2023 | 10:25 PM
#21
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Frankenstein, another example of your continued effort to hijack a positive and turn it into one of your meaningless rants.. At the end of the day you continue to prove that nobody really cares about what you think or say. Time for you to go crawl into the hull of an abandoned aircraft carrier and disappear. (In case you did not read or understand on one of your other meaningless rants, I have posted it here for you again.
09-10-2023 | 05:00 AM
#22
Frankenstein, another example of your continued effort to hijack a positive and turn it into one of your meaningless rants.. At the end of the day you continue to prove that nobody really cares about what you think or say. Time for you to go crawl into the hull of an abandoned aircraft carrier and disappear. (In case you did not read or understand on one of your other meaningless rants, I have posted it here for you again.
AMA's narrative of "fly as you always have" is pretty much demolished, and a delay isn't going to save them. And it's amazing how many clubs are going on record admitting they don't follow the safety code AMA has touted epitome of self regulation works. How? by asking for operations over occupied structures, roads, etc.
09-10-2023 | 05:00 AM
#23
Notice how carefully worded the last sentence is here. It would imply that at present Franklin is not the troll account SterlingD that lied about his career and involvement in the hobby. Which is true, the SterlingD troll account was suspended over a year ago. However the SterlingD account was indeed Franklin, verified by matching IP address. Franklin also has a very distinctive posting style that is easily recognizable and he isn’t quite smart enough to disguise his writing style. This is but one example.
09-10-2023 | 05:09 AM
#24
Notice how carefully worded the last sentence is here. It would imply that at present Franklin is not the troll account SterlingD that lied about his career and involvement in the hobby. Which is true, the SterlingD troll account was suspended over a year ago. However the SterlingD account was indeed Franklin, verified by matching IP address. Franklin also has a very distinctive posting style that is easily recognizable and he isn’t quite smart enough to disguise his writing style. This is but one example.
