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Old 08-06-2006 | 02:35 PM
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Would you support a new person running for District VI that would try to reduce the overspending at the AMA. I think if we can do more with less then the AMA can also stop wasting our money.

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Old 08-06-2006 | 03:07 PM
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Would you support a new person running for District VI that would try to reduce the overspending at the AMA. I think if we can do more with less then the AMA can also stop wasting our money.

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Nominations were due by June 15th. Now you have 3 years to make up your mind. Charlie Bauer (incumbent) is running unopposed.
Old 08-07-2006 | 10:05 PM
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Would you support a new person running for District VI that would try to reduce the overspending at the AMA. I think if we can do more with less then the AMA can also stop wasting our money.

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Nominations were due by June 15th. Now you have 3 years to make up your mind. Charlie Bauer (incumbent) is running unopposed.
Crash, you are not setting a good example for future office here. First as Red told you, you are starting somewhat late. Then you proposition a loaded question that many may well disagree with your concept.

Late Start evidences that you are unsure of yourself desiring the position, not aware of policies and procedures relative to both the position and obtaining the position, generally confused about your objective/s, afraid to stand up and be counted as you do not show your name and any items of identification such as AMA number, and/or address, and, as of this late date, you will be unable to advance any significant kind of write-in campaign prior to the ballots arriving.

The loaded question states that AMA overspends. Is that different from each individual that doesn't have adequate liquid funds to cover all his time-payment-purchases, his mortgage, his credit card debt,etc.? There may well be a number of these persons that would reject your position.
In addition what makes you think AMA overspends? For sure I certainly have my opinions, but they are specific. You have not stated your specific areas where you think AMA overspends.

Of course I am NOT in Dist. VI anymore since 1985. So my statements are strictly academic. [8D]

OTOH if you have true concerns then try a write-in even at this late date. Be prepared to spend a few yankee $$$. Then you will be much better prepared plus better known in 2009.


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Hossfly has some points. I never said I wanted to run did I. There is a club member that would be right for this position. You use the term deserve. So, What makes a person deserve this office? So far I have not seen any write up of Missouri clubs excluding St Louis in MA. One could say Charlie is not perform his duties.

Don't get me wrong. I like Charlie but he just will not come to Missouri. In the past our club offered to put him up in a nice hotel but he declined. I know the VP in Kansas and I am sure he would attend a event if we asked him. There was a club in Missouri that changed their mailing address just to be placed under his district.

Not aware of policies and procedures relative to both the position and obtaining the position. So, A write in is all it takes right? I am not sure he would take this on but he would perform his duties. As a former Airforce Combat Security with ABGD under his belt, He completes every tasks that has ever came up, Work (IT Field) and at the field.

I do not even thinks he has ever logged onto this form. He is always at the field flying. The only thing I am sure of is we need someone that would care about our whole district.

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Old 08-09-2006 | 11:12 PM
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Hossfly has some points. I never said I wanted to run did I. There is a club member that would be right for this position. You use the term deserve. So, What makes a person deserve this office? So far I have not seen any write up of Missouri clubs excluding St Louis in MA. One could say Charlie is not perform his duties.
Good ploy there. I fell for the assumption that you were speaking of yourself because in your second sentence you stated YOUR ideas about AMA overspending . My bad.

Charlie is not duty obligated to write about anyone or anyplace as far as the magazine is concerned. A DVP's duties are stated in the AMA Bylaws, Article X, Section 5.
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Section 5. The District Vice President of each of the AMA districts, as a member of the Executive Council, will formulate policy, serve on committees (when appointed), and resolve other matters brought before the Executive Council. The District Vice President will appoint all of the following for his district: Contest Board members, Contest Coordinator(s), Frequency Coordinator, and Associate Vice President. The District Vice President is responsible for maintaining Academy contact within the district and providing coordination with Headquarters on AMA matters.
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Notice the magazine is not stated.

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Not aware of policies and procedures relative to both the position and obtaining the position. So, A write in is all it takes right? I am not sure he would take this on but he would perform his duties. As a former Airforce Combat Security with ABGD under his belt, He completes every tasks that has ever came up, Work (IT Field) and at the field.

I do not even thinks he has ever logged onto this form. He is always at the field flying. The only thing I am sure of is we need someone that would care about our whole district.

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Crash, as a long time person involved with model clubs, and having once been a strong hard-core competitor in CL, and FF events, but now just RC Fun-Fly and sport stuff, I can tell you that if anyone wishes to be either an elected or appointed AMA Official that person needs a fair amount of experience in the competition arena, be very interested in the newbies and the general sports fliers and have at least the ability to converse concerning all the model disciplines.
In addition that person should be at least be interested in the inner workings of the AMA bureaucracy and able to research the history as well as the up-to-date business of AMA.
Crash have you ever noticed that a lot of guys at the field spend most of their time simply flying their own models and basically ignore the newbies? Have you noticed the hard-core competition fliers generally have little concern for others outside their own interests? What it boils down to is that the individual already focused on himself and his specific interests is not going to spend any time working for YOUR interests.
Any man that doesn't investigate what's happening beyond his own field-of-vision, will not be a good bet for being interested in the visions of others of any interest which he, himself, has little or no knowledge of. In addition, the actions of a DVP doesn't stop at his district. His vote on EC matters can effect the entire AMA. More reasons for him to be focused on the general good, not just a monthly magazine article. (you can send your club's news TO the DVP.

As far as a write-in vote campaign, that is your decision. Has your man obtained his Leader Membership in AMA? It is a requirement. Has he asked Charlie to make him an AVP for your area? That is one sure way to learn the ropes if one wants to quickly get up to speed.
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Crash, have you ever noticed that a lot of guys at the field spend most of their time simply flying their own models and basically ignore the newbies? Have you noticed the hard-core competition fliers generally have little concern for others outside their own interests?

I am very happy to say NO to both. I have seen some really bad things here in this area. Maybe its a Missouri thing to help out someone when you see a need. There are 2 other clubs that I am close to their membership. It appears that they have the same concept of get - er - done that we do.

I can not understand a RC airplane club that when a new flyer appears, they don't want to help them. I have found myself flying profiles 95% of the time but I am happy to help with a new flyer and or their trainer, Warbird, and so on. I can only say it is a shame to read about clubs that have problems like this. The AMA has placed this as one of the 3 main causes of saftey issues on a report I read last year.

I think it is real simple. When you have a club of non flyers, you end up with people that has changed their hobby from flying to running a club. We have only 1 meeting per year and several flying events. (Membership around 60 or so.) No one gets mad. Well we did talk about how short should we cut the grass once. Why can we have such a great club body while others have so many bad times at their clubs?

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Old 08-11-2006 | 02:20 AM
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Crash,don't feel dicriminated against because the district VI VP has never showed up in your area. Our club functions and flying events are 40 miles from his residence and we haven't seen him either.Good luck with your write-in campaign. In all fairness, I understand district VI is a large area with many clubs and activities and one person can only cover so much territory. Maybe the AVP's could share coverage duties and contribute to the district reports.


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Old 08-11-2006 | 08:25 PM
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We have been inviting him for 5 years now and he keeps returning to some of the same events every year. I think Missouri needs a new VP or gove Missouri to Mr. Smith out of Kansas.

I don't want to run, I am a member of the ProBro. I am sure there is a law against that.

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