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Old 10-29-2012 | 08:23 AM
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Wrong. Complaining on RCU is a responsible thing to do whenever ANY fraudulent hobby supplier wrongs any of us.
I applaud the OP for registering his complaint here.
Threads like these are a public service to the guys in this hobby.

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I have just bought 4 airframes (1000 dollars worth) from the uk warehouse in the last 4 months. A carbon 30cc yak 54, a 30cc sbach, a 50cc sbach and a carbon 50cc sukhoi su 26. Got two for the price of one when it comes to the 50cc airframes. And before you say they must be crap have a hunt online for the build logs on these airframes and read about how happy the guys are flying these models and how much they have saved. But im pi##ed of because I also bought 2 tunigy 3d props and one was useless, hobbyking has robbed me of 15 dollars lol. You do realise Bob Paris got his two engines from hobbyking. Not only that he is having the time of his life flying them. You guys need to grow up its pathetic.
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I have just bought 4 airframes (1000 dollars worth) from the uk warehouse in the last 4 months. A carbon 30cc yak 54, a 30cc sbach, a 50cc sbach and a carbon 50cc sukhoi su 26. Got two for the price of one when it comes to the 50cc airframes. And before you say they must be crap have a hunt online for the build logs on these airframes and read about how happy the guys are flying these models and how much they have saved. But im pi##ed of because I also bought 2 tunigy 3d props and one was useless, hobbyking has robbed me of 15 dollars lol. You do realise Bob Paris got his two engines from hobbyking. Not only that he is having the time of his life flying them. You guys need to grow up its pathetic.
Why is it that so many people complain about Hobby King? is it because all the Hobby companies or jealous and they pay people to come on here
and make all this up?
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Old 10-29-2012 | 09:35 PM
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lol jokes on you dude. enjoy paying to much.
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Hello everyone.
First ever order from HK(!)

It is now the 18th day since payment and still waiting...
Old 10-30-2012 | 03:04 AM
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Hello everyone.
First ever order from HK(!)

It is now the 18th day since payment and still waiting...
Depending on what shipping rate you chose has everything to do with when you get stuff from HK. 4-6 weeks is not unusual given certain rates. Also if the part is backordered it can be disastrous. You may never get them, or when you do you won't need them. Most everything I have ordered from them came within a week (5-10days) except when I chose the cheapest shipping method. That took around 3+ weeks or more.

A couple things to watch for, are out of stock items (never order anything on out of stock list from HK) and cheapest rate shipping (you will get the stuff but may take a long, long time). If you are just ordered some replacement stuff then cheapest is ok.

One other thing I do is set a minimum that I will spend with HK. That way if it turns into disaster I really don't care as my risk is very low. Usually that is around 100-200 dollars. I do not buy airframes or engines from them unless I am prepared to possibly take a hit on them.

In buying an engine I prefer to pay more for support and service. I fix all my own engines, but I just don't have the time to monkey around with botched up junk because I got an engine for half price. When I have time then it would be no big deal to play with a half priced HK engine. Buying some things from HK is like a roulette wheel or hitting a bullseye in the dark. You just throw and hope for the best.

A guy was telling me the other day that he bought a cheap junko engine (not from HK) from a supplier over here in the US. It was still a chinese mock off engine. He tried and tried to get the thing running. Finally he had it on the bench and somehow he noticed that a leak was on the crankcase. He put some fuel in the crankcase and it leaked everywhere! He was able to fix it by taking it apart and sealing everything. This is an example of what you may have to do with cheapo junk.

To each his own and I hope you get your parts soon.
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What I'd like to know is when people are going to figure out they need to be making their purchases via credit card when dealing with anything ordered, not taken with them?

With a credit card purchase, you WILL have the last word, PERIOD! If you aren't happy with your purchase, for any legitimate reason, one call to the credit card company will have the dealer explaining to the credit card company why the credit card company shouldn't reverse any charges they made to your card. The credit card company will be working the issue on your behalf, not the dealer's, so it's very difficult for them to BS the credit card company.

And don't even start to believe PayPal will do that for you.... If you have trouble with a purchase made through PayPal gone sour, don't even waste your time calling them. Hopefully you funded that purchase with a credit card. That's who you call....
Old 10-30-2012 | 05:16 AM
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I ordered my su 26 50cc from europe. Had bother as in hobbyking could not find a courier willing to deliver it. Had to use live support to cancel the order and paypal was refunded in a week of me opening a case with them. Thats a case within hobbyking live support did not need to threaten with paypal or credit card refund. Since bought same airframe when it came in stock in uk.

Dont dissagree with the last two posts, usefull constructive information there. Not the hate posts that are obvious to all and useless for real info.

Have to agree you need to be able to supply your own support when it comes to engines, thats why its so cheap.

My rcg 50 (actually a 55 but hobbyking have not updated there website) spinning a 23 8 at 6500 rpm with 27 pounds thrust, cost half what the dle 55 costs in the uk. It is identical. On the thrust video you will see it attached to my imaginary 50cc sbach from hobbyking.

On my phone and for the life of me cannot get my phone to copy the link. Will add the link later supposing its true and I actually have the engine lol.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8S61...p;feature=plcp

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I have used Hobby King twice and am waiting on an order I placed on Monday for 2 Orange Rx modules. My first order arrived in about 10 days. I used Paypal linked to a Visa card. Most of my stuff is bought at my LHS or through Tower Hobbies. I have NEVER had a problem with either.
Old 10-30-2012 | 04:26 PM
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Actually Frank-they pay more than $100.00 when you add up freebies and credits and never no shipping from any of the worldwide warehouses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Talk nice and I will tell you the real truth buddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 10-30-2012 | 08:13 PM
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Old 10-30-2012 | 09:44 PM
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countilaw your the hobbyking anti shill lol. I have heard all this crap for 3 years and had no real prob with hobbyking. Going to move on from this post though as I can see you have spent your time on this forum over the last few months getting involved in any thread available where you could put hobbyking down. Your clearly mentally ill or a patriotic to the point of being a racist. Can decide but realise there is no point arguing with either. so long
Old 10-31-2012 | 03:11 AM
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countilaw your the hobbyking anti shill lol. I have heard all this crap for 3 years and had no real prob with hobbyking. Going to move on from this post though as I can see you have spent your time on this forum over the last few months getting involved in any thread available where you could put hobbyking down. Your clearly mentally ill or a patriotic to the point of being a racist. Can decide but realise there is no point arguing with either. so long
There are extremes on both sides of this fence. I have only ordered a few things over the past couple years and did not have one single issue. I know some guys that have had excellent results as well. I also am aware that some have not been so successful with HK. It is hit and miss at times. We always should realize when we buy things for bottom dollar we should not have a high expectation of support. I have even negotiated prices on big ticket items from various people knowing that I would not be calling them back.

If I pay a premium price I do have a level of expectation, no matter what the product is. If I were paying 20 bucks for an HD servo from HK, I really have not a concern. If I were paying 100 for the same servo from a supplier here in the states, then I have a concern about support because I am paying for service and support and should get it. That is why I do not whine about HK.

The ONLY thing about HK that concerns me at times is that they may be practicing some things that might be unethical in my way of thinking. If that is the case they will not receive funds from me, BUT that must be factual and not heresay.
Old 10-31-2012 | 06:29 AM
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The way I see it if a product cost ten bucks or a hundred bucks I expect the same level of customer service, If the product is faulty I want it
replaced or my money promptlyrefunded it just that simple.</p>
Old 10-31-2012 | 08:50 AM
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Interesting...

I'm one of those that gets my stuff in 4 days from Hobby King's Hong Kong warehouse via EMS/Express Mail.

I get my stuff in about a week via the U.S. Postal service ( at no added cost ) from the U.S. warehouse that allegedly does not exist.

If the U.S. warehouse did not exist, then either someone is quickly shipping things in from Hong Kong, then reshipping it again from the U.S. location, doubling handling, storage, expenses and manpower requirements....

Or as it is more likely, they are merely shipping from a U.S. warehouse, as the Tracking info from the post office seems to confirm.


Of course given the negative posts by these same three or four people, who merely seem intent on trying to resurrect a dead thread, everyone who gets things quickly - MUST - be a shill or worthy of a derogatory moniker.

Meanwhile I've been happily using their servos, gas engines, LiPo and LiFe packs, accessories, tools, and even several of their planes.

The non-existent U.S. warehouse has also been quite handy in getting anything I've had trouble with replaced. I can ship any problematic items there for replacement.

Of course all of this MUST be lies, right? Pictures, videos, documentation, receipts, RMA's notices, etc... not-with-standing?


Me-thinks the tin-foil hat group has found a cause.

Moon landing conspiracies anyone?



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Good info, opjose. I have not ordered much, but what I have ordered saved me a lot of dollars. In just servos alone, I have saved about half to two-thirds the cost of a DLE 30. That alone makes me smile and to top it off the servos I bought have been rock solid and perform as well or better in some cases than some of my high dollar Hitec servos.

I live out in a rural area and no hobby shops around without a decent drive so I do purchase most everything online. I try to buy as much as I can afford from shops here in the USA and then some from outside sources. It has worked out well for me and especially with the budget I allocate to RC.
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Jim, I am sure you should know what the shills are getting for promoting Hobby Krap junk. Here we have several people saying they are waiting for over 10 days to get their stuff from Hobby Krap.


Yet all the shills claim they get stuff with in 4 days. That's just more lies and misinformation about Hobby Krap.


Just like the misinformation about Hobby Krap having a U S Warehouse. There is no U S Warehouse.


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Good info, opjose. I have not ordered much, but what I have ordered saved me a lot of dollars. In just servos alone, I have saved about half to two-thirds the cost of a DLE 30. That alone makes me smile and to top it off the servos I bought have been rock solid and perform as well or better in some cases than some of my high dollar Hitec servos.
I believe Hitec's are German made.

Funny thing is even though I've tried and used many different brands, I've had the worst luck with Hitecs above all others.

I finally managed to strip two HK servos, but I REALLY had to abuse them to get this to happen. I've purchased well over 220 servos from them to date and I've only had one DOA servo and one with a bad sensor. Not a bad track record compared to 2 DOA Hitecs out of a shipment of 24, and two high torque tail servos from Hitec with poor noise rejection.

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Good info, opjose. I have not ordered much, but what I have ordered saved me a lot of dollars. In just servos alone, I have saved about half to two-thirds the cost of a DLE 30. That alone makes me smile and to top it off the servos I bought have been rock solid and perform as well or better in some cases than some of my high dollar Hitec servos.
I believe Hitec's are German made.

Funny thing is even though I've tried and used many different brands, I've had the worst luck with Hitecs above all others.

I finally managed to strip two HK servos, but I REALLY had to abuse them to get this to happen. I've purchased well over 220 servos from them to date and I've only had one DOA servo and one with a bad sensor. Not a bad track record compared to 2 DOA Hitecs out of a shipment of 24, and two high torque tail servos from Hitec with poor noise rejection.

220 servos? WOW! You have done very well with HK. What has been your predominate brand of servo from HK? I probably don't have over 30 to 40 servos in all
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I started purchasing the 5010's from other sources then found that HK had them cheaper.

These are great "sport" servos with about 130oz/in torque or better.

I've purchased well over 120+ of those. Usually I make "bulk" buys to have on hand for what comes up.

I'm currently flying those on my Giant Big Stik that received well over 100 flights this season alone.


I've also used many of their metal gear, mini, retract, micro servos making up the difference.

Of late I've been using a lot of the metal gear servos on the larger planes and everything down to the 3g servos for the sub micros.

The Turnigy servos have been pretty good so far.

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BTW: I'm liking the LiFe 2100mAh 6.6v receiver packs too. $12.00/ea from the U.S. store.

They have great high draw capacities. Two of these are prefect ( redundant ) for my 50cc'ers on up.

Their Turnigy chargers also seem to be based upon the iMax B6 software & circuit boards. The very same chargers that Venom, E-Flite, Tower and many others now sell as rebranded chargers. The balance boards and accessories are all interchangeable too.


I put a DM 55 ( DL 55 clone, which itself is a clone of the DLE-55 if you can believe it! ) into a 50cc Ultimate and I've been very impressed with the engine.
I'm waiting for them to restock. I'm going to pick up two more for the price of ONE engine from other sources.

The Pitts mufflers for these were inexpensive and look great. The gasket area machining is not as nice as say a Bisson muffler in that the ground edges were a bit rough. It only took 3-4 minutes to smooth these out.








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Here is HK's U.S. warehouse address. This is where we go to actually pick up an order because we live within 4 or 5 miles of it. HK started local pick-up a few months ago.

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I started purchasing the 5010's from other sources then found that HK had them cheaper.

These are great ''sport'' servos with about 130oz/in torque or better.

I've purchased well over 120+ of those. Usually I make ''bulk'' buys to have on hand for what comes up.

I'm currently flying those on my Giant Big Stik that received well over 100 flights this season alone.


I've also used many of their metal gear, mini, retract, micro servos making up the difference.

Of late I've been using a lot of the metal gear servos on the larger planes and everything down to the 3g servos for the sub micros.

The Turnigy servos have been pretty good so far.

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BTW: I'm liking the LiFe 2100mAh 6.6v receiver packs too. $12.00/ea from the U.S. store.

They have great high draw capacities. Two of these are prefect ( redundant ) for my 50cc'ers on up.

Their Turnigy chargers also seem to be based upon the iMax B6 software & circuit boards. The very same chargers that Venom, E-Flite, Tower and many others now sell as rebranded chargers. The balance boards and accessories are all interchangeable too.


I put a DM 55 ( DL 55 clone, which itself is a clone of the DLE-55 if you can believe it! ) into a 50cc Ultimate and I've been very impressed with the engine.
I'm waiting for them to restock. I'm going to pick up two more for the price of ONE engine from other sources.

The Pitts mufflers for these were inexpensive and look great. The gasket area machining is not as nice as say a Bisson muffler in that the ground edges were a bit rough. It only took 3-4 minutes to smooth these out.
This is the kind of info that is helpful for others and can save us all time and effort. I had wondered about the LIFE 2100s and I am glad you posted about them. When we pay about 30-45 dollars for a battery we have to wonder how one can be ok for 12 dollars! Some guys at our club buy many batteries from HK and get some bad ones, but they are so dirt cheap they just toss the bad ones. However they don't have that many bad batteries. One guy said he had purchased around eight batteries on one order and only one had some problems.
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<span style="color: #ff0000">Probably because they are maxed out the wahzoo with credit card debt and can'tmaintain a decent household accounting budget inorder to qualify for credit. (I'm not naming ANYONE in that slam). One normally finds that those that don't have a PayPal accountdon't have the credit worthiness to back up a PayPal account. There are those that hate PayPal as well however, PayPal is a consumer ally. Never send money orders. You might as well drive down the freeway and toss that money out the window.
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What I'd like to know is when people are going to figure out they need to be making their purchases via credit card when dealing with anything ordered, not taken with them?

With a credit card purchase, you WILL have the last word, PERIOD! If you aren't happy with your purchase, for any legitimate reason, one call to the credit card company will have the dealer explaining to the credit card company why the credit card company shouldn't reverse any charges they made to your card. The credit card company will be working the issue on your behalf, not the dealer's, so it's very difficult for them to BS the credit card company.

And don't even start to believe PayPal will do that for you.... If you have trouble with a purchase made through PayPal gone sour, don't even waste your time calling them. Hopefully you funded that purchase with a credit card. That's who you call....
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This is the kind of info that is helpful for others and can save us all time and effort. I had wondered about the LIFE 2100s and I am glad you posted about them. When we pay about 30-45 dollars for a battery we have to wonder how one can be ok for 12 dollars! Some guys at our club buy many batteries from HK and get some bad ones, but they are so dirt cheap they just toss the bad ones. However they don't have that many bad batteries. One guy said he had purchased around eight batteries on one order and only one had some problems.
They restocked the DM-55 last night and I picked another one up.

My existing one spins a 22x10 prop at 7500-7800 out of the box. Not shabby at all. I'm going to tach it with a 23x10 prop next.


As with many places there are hits and misses.

Here are a few of misses:

They have what appear to be Powerbox clones, that really are not.
The reviews from purchasers list problems with these devices. It appears that the servo power is unregulated, in spite of the fact that the whole point with powerboxes is to provide regulated isolated power to each connected device.... so bottom line, stay away from these.

The in-line gas anodized metal fuel filters leak air. The "o" ring seals used are not the right size.

The dual voltage regulator they sell can't handle voltage spikes very well. The switching circuitry hangs up when it sees a power draw spike that is over it's capacity... even if it is momentary. So this 8A regulator can't handle four high torque analog servos powering up at the same time, seeking center. However their LiFe packs let me run 8 of these and one standard servo on a 50cc plane.


Given that I've placed 51 orders with them thus far, those three minor things ( of which I was only affected by the fuel filter and regulator ) is not bad, especially considering their prices.









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