Hoping I can get some help. I am building a Zero from Tiger USA for an elderly veteran frind of mine. It's suppose to be ATF but is far from "almost"! My problem is the electric motoer that cam with the plane doesn't have a plug on the end. The manual "recommends ACE radio, esc and servos but 1. I can't find them and 2. my friend aready has a spektrum 6ch radio. Any body know anything about this kit and how to set up the motor and how do I get it to work with the Spektrum equipment, if that's even possible? This kit has me thinking it might be better to just have it for a static display and get a dirrerent Zero.

Would that be a Thunder Tiger Zero?

Does the motor have (2) attachment points for wires or does it have (3)?

Most of the newer stuff will work with the Spectrum radio without a problem.

Can you post pictures and some spec's on it. Size, weight, and so on?


Buzz.

Yes, it's a thunder tiger. The motor is an OBL 2928/09. It has 3 wires comming out, red, black and I think green or grey. The kit is over at my friends right now so I don't have any pictures. All the manual gives is a wiring diagram, and it doesnt even color code the wires so you can see which one goes where. Here is the link to the web site, http://www.thundertiger.com/products...0Tiger__2.html.
I'm not real impressed with this model and the fact that it's foam does not endear me to foamy's at all. I build with balsa so I feel like i'm butting my head against a wall. Thanks for the reply.
Ed

All 3 wire motors can be hooked to any of the 3 connectors on the esc. If you power the motor up. If it is rotating the wrong way. Change any one wire and the motor will reverse direction. Wiring from motor to esc can hook up in any combination. Don't know if this helps. I am not a Guru by any means BUT, I fly only electric aircraft and have been flying electric since Nicad's.lol

Jeff

May All Your Landings Be Smooth!!!!!

Please post ALL of the specs on the motor.

You can use ESC and batteries made by other manufacturers, but they must be sized to your application.

The motor specs will help determine maximum draw amounts, and from there we can calculate things like prop required, ESC specs, battery capacity, etc.

There is nothing ion the motor as to what the spec's are. It just says, "Thunder Tiger OBL 29/09-07A Warning! This part rotates. There is nothing in the manual or at the Thunder Tiger web site, or any web site that I have found for that matter that gives the spec's of the motor. I have found the same motor for sale a couple of places but no spec's.
I have found that the Battery required is an 8 cell 9.6V 600mAh Ni-Mh type and the plane manual suggests using an ACE BLC-12 BEC.
I thought the motor had a red, black and green or grey wire ,but after I went and got the motor, I found that the wires are red, black and yellow. Thanks for the info on the wiring.
I did contact the hobby shop where the plane was purchased but he said that his supplier will have to contact the mfg as the part no.'s in the manual are not good and who knows how long it will take for a reply.
Thanks again.
Ed Miller

Unfortunately your link doesn't work for me either, so I cannot use that to guage what your electronics requirements would be.

Well, Thanks for trying anyway. At least now I know that it's not just me. If you think of any ideas, please let me know.
Thanks again,
Ed Miller

Its you. Obviously you are unfamiliar with electrics so rather than getting your knickers in a knot do two things:

1. Find someone familiar with electric operation to advise you.

2. Go to Thunder Tiger's Taiwan web site to get specs and download manuals. Their site is slow so allow download time.

For Motor specs:

http://www.tiger.com.tw/product/2354.html

Manual, look for 2354-manuel-e on the following page:

http://www.tiger.com.tw/manual/1__6__1.html

Esc Manual, look for 8026-manual (on page 3)

http://www.tiger.com.tw/product/8026.html

TT stuff is pretty high quality so no need to replace it or give up on it. Their foamy war birds fly very well.

That sounds like a 12amp ESC and real heavy battery. Would get better power from say around a 1000mah 3s battery. According to the manual, a APC 9X6 "E" prop will pull 10 amps. A nice little lipo will save a lot weight with this little plane.

http://www.hobbypartz.com/98p-20c-800-3s1p.html

http://www.hobbypartz.com/98p-25c-1000-3s1p.html

You would need to change the plug on the battery to match the esc or change the plug on the ESC to match the battery.


ESC

http://www.thundertiger.com/product/8026.html

Motor

http://mms.tiger.tw/upload/2009-9/20099185414.pdf

Plane

http://mms.tiger.tw/upload/upload_fi...5manJE6859.pdf


Buzz.

How do you change one wire?

Thanks! I guess I made the mistake of assuming that by posting a request for help on RCU that I was asking for help. I'm not use to "foam planes or Electric motors. As I said in the first post I build balsa. I also use nitro and gas engines. I'm still learning.
Ed

Unplug 2 connections and switch them. Don't worry about not being educated on Electrics. (Poor post by the other person). I think the only dumb or stupid question. Is the one that is NOT ASKED. I have 54 years of education and asking questions AND the answers. And regret asking none of them! We all started with little or no education in our hobby at one time. I have both foamies and balsa (I prefer balsa too)
This IS a forum where info is exchanged. I have learned many things from this forum. Don't back away from it. I as most that post on this forum want to help. So go ahead and ask questions. Disregard any negative input. And file the good stuff.
You may contact me directly if u like allelectric50 at yahoo dot com. As I said before I am no Guru. But, I have been flying all electric for about 6 years. And totally believe in the electric concept. One of my prop aircraft fly's at over 110 MPH. And gets to that speed NOW. Much quicker than fuel engines.
Thanks Jeff


May All Your Landings Be Smooth

Thank you.
Can you tell me which wire goes where? I asume, (I also hate to do that) that the red and black goto the battery and the yellow to the throttle. Is this correct?
Thank

Your first electric can be confusing (it happens a lot). The three wires from the motor go to an ESC (I would suggest one rated for 15 amps). The ESC will have 3 wires on one end and 2 wires on the other, plus a servo lead that goes to the throttle position on your receiver. The 3 wires from the ESC go to the motor. The 2 remaining wires on the ESC go to the battery (red to red & black to black).
CAUTION!! The motor may start turning as soon as the battery is connected to the ESC.
If the motor starts as soon as the battery is connected, reverse the throttle on your transmitter.
If the motor is turning backwards, switch any two motor leads (it doesn't matter which two).

The easiest thing to do would be to get help from an electric flyer or your local hobby shop. It's much simpler to see all this than to explain it.
Hope this helps...

As far as the wiring goes it does. There is only one hobby shop with in 80 miles of us and unfourtunetly he isn't all that knowledgable about planes or electrics.

Hope this helps. I made it quickly, so it's not the best.

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After reading this thread, I think you are missing the one thing everyone keeps telling you. You need to get a ESC (Electronic Speed Control) to connect your motor to. Then the throlle wire is connected to the receiver. The guy in the last post gave you a good diagram to work with......

Larry

Edit... thought I had read all the way through, then realized the links to the stuff were already posted.

this is why i will never fly electrics    GASSERS  forever

How is any suggestion to seek local electric experience and follow provided links to educate oneself considered a poor post?

A number of fellows have honorably chimed in offering guidance. However spoon feeding solutions does not teach someone how to pick up the spoon.

And I really do Appreciate the help and suggestions that have been posted, including yours. I was not asking for someone to "Spoon feed Me". I was asking for information that I was unable to find and didn't know. I have been all over the web looking for the information, especially Thunder Tiger.
It was only after you posted the links to the info that I found that for some reason, my version of Adobe would not open them. It just opened blank pages. That problem has been recitified and I have viewd the links and saved them for future referance.
If I had access to a hobby shop with out driving 80 miles one way, I would probably be there several times a week. As I said earlier, The closest one is a 1 man operation and he doesn't know much more than I do. He has to call his supplier's tech department, and then try and relay the info to me. He's a train man, has static displays and sells accessories, but he's not into planes.

Hi,

I just read through this thread, and perhaps this is worth spelling out.

Power up your Transmitter first. With the transmitter powered up, then connect the battery to your Electronic Speed Controller.

Then fly, work on the setup, etc.

Then, disconnect the battery from the ESC.

Finally, turn off the transmitter. Always in that order.

Never allow battery power to reach the ESC before the transmitter is turned on. Always disconnect the battery from the ESC before you turn your transmitter off.

People who deviate from that sequence often get bitten.

Best wishes,
Dave Olson

And NEVER set up an electric airplane with the propeller installed. A motor that is running in reverse or one that has the throttle servo setting reversed can run away from you or run into you when you least expect it. electrics can cut you worse than a gasser or nitro engine because those blades are sharp. Once you are assured the throttle and direction of rotation are proper then isntall the prop.

It was the way you worded your post????? Spoon fed??????