Hangar 9 Twist 3D
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Ferg, too bad you didn't read the whole thread. It was mentioned earlier about making a dry run stabbing the elevator to see if both halves are the same. The steel "U" joiner can be bent until the're perfect. It should be OK. You'll have to try it and see. For 3-D, use the widest and least pitch in the recommended props for your engine. "Y" harness or separate channels both work good. You just will have less options with the "Y".
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Hey SLFERGY
You will have no problem as TimC Said with bending the joiner wire, just go easy and don't snap the wood[X(] but As long as you haven't flown her yet, try and get it as true as possible, its not to big of a deal seeing this plane is very stable, and you will be able to control it OK by use of the ailerons with the elevator.
And I agree also with Tim on the adversity of using the 5th channel slot instead of the Y harness, if you have the option use it, its well worth it and you can mess around with flaperon settings as well, which helps aide in the performance in the plane for a few other 3D things and landings, but by any means is completely unnecessary.
Just wanted to back up what TimC was saying, the more people who agree on things for a plane makes it a little easier for the person asking to go ahead and try it for themselves,
Unless of course were just messing with Ya,, LOL [sm=punching.gif]
Welcome to the Twist and keep us posted.
You will have no problem as TimC Said with bending the joiner wire, just go easy and don't snap the wood[X(] but As long as you haven't flown her yet, try and get it as true as possible, its not to big of a deal seeing this plane is very stable, and you will be able to control it OK by use of the ailerons with the elevator.
And I agree also with Tim on the adversity of using the 5th channel slot instead of the Y harness, if you have the option use it, its well worth it and you can mess around with flaperon settings as well, which helps aide in the performance in the plane for a few other 3D things and landings, but by any means is completely unnecessary.
Just wanted to back up what TimC was saying, the more people who agree on things for a plane makes it a little easier for the person asking to go ahead and try it for themselves,
Unless of course were just messing with Ya,, LOL [sm=punching.gif]
Welcome to the Twist and keep us posted.
#2778
Here's my two cents worth....
Prop? If you're using a .46-.51 two stroke I would use an APC 12.25x3.75" or 11.5x4"
*** see for yourself what folks are using... http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_20...tm.htm#2095602
Y-Cable? Not only does using a Y reduce your options for flapperons/spoilerons, it also reduces your chance of hooking things up wrong. If you're new into the sport you could use every "safety net" you can. Ask fyrwalker! He knows first hand what I'm talking about!!!
Prop? If you're using a .46-.51 two stroke I would use an APC 12.25x3.75" or 11.5x4"
*** see for yourself what folks are using... http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_20...tm.htm#2095602
Y-Cable? Not only does using a Y reduce your options for flapperons/spoilerons, it also reduces your chance of hooking things up wrong. If you're new into the sport you could use every "safety net" you can. Ask fyrwalker! He knows first hand what I'm talking about!!!
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Hey ya'll,
Ghee's right if ya new go with the Y-harness! if you go with the 5 channel be shure to label which wire goes to which side of the aileron's, i was trying to get in one more flite in and got in a big hurry before it got dark and hooked them up backward's[:@],left was right, r w/ l. got her in the air and found out it was wrong and the throttle was stuck 1/4 way open(you see where i'm going with this!). anyway go with the y and change it later when ya get comfortable with the plane
. i'll be working on another one soon.
Ghee's right if ya new go with the Y-harness! if you go with the 5 channel be shure to label which wire goes to which side of the aileron's, i was trying to get in one more flite in and got in a big hurry before it got dark and hooked them up backward's[:@],left was right, r w/ l. got her in the air and found out it was wrong and the throttle was stuck 1/4 way open(you see where i'm going with this!). anyway go with the y and change it later when ya get comfortable with the plane
. i'll be working on another one soon.
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FYRWALKER and ghee-grose,
I'm a displaced Alabamian originally from Homewood (if you know where that is). When I was a kid I would go to Spivey's in West End and Homewood Hobby and drool at the RC planes. I finally saved enough money to buy a Goldberg Falcon and an OS 46 (which was very new technology) but I didn't finish building it till I was through with college and married. We were so poor I had to put the monokote on with a clothes iron. At that time my 7 channel radio cost $600. There were no clubs in the area of Ohio that I lived in but a bunch of guys would gather at the fire academy and fly. It was not an AMA certified field and people would bring coolers of beer and get a little crazy and would not watch the newbies they were training. Needless to say I got in trouble with my plane and before anyone could get to me to help it was too late. That was the end of my plane. A farmer found it when he was harvesting his corn crop months later. I got out of the hobby for a few years and got back in when things started to get cheaper and I had more money. Now it is 35 years and a dozen planes later and I'm finally learning how to fly good. Talk about a slow learner!
Anyway, I thought I would introduce myself. War Eagle!!
I'm a displaced Alabamian originally from Homewood (if you know where that is). When I was a kid I would go to Spivey's in West End and Homewood Hobby and drool at the RC planes. I finally saved enough money to buy a Goldberg Falcon and an OS 46 (which was very new technology) but I didn't finish building it till I was through with college and married. We were so poor I had to put the monokote on with a clothes iron. At that time my 7 channel radio cost $600. There were no clubs in the area of Ohio that I lived in but a bunch of guys would gather at the fire academy and fly. It was not an AMA certified field and people would bring coolers of beer and get a little crazy and would not watch the newbies they were training. Needless to say I got in trouble with my plane and before anyone could get to me to help it was too late. That was the end of my plane. A farmer found it when he was harvesting his corn crop months later. I got out of the hobby for a few years and got back in when things started to get cheaper and I had more money. Now it is 35 years and a dozen planes later and I'm finally learning how to fly good. Talk about a slow learner!
Anyway, I thought I would introduce myself. War Eagle!!
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prop - I've had a rough week so I apologize for not responding sooner. I hope to fly my 2nd session with the Twist this weekend. Perhaps even Saturday morning. We here in Minnesota got pounded with a TON of rain this last week and our airfield just flooded over again shortly after the previous flood was just clearing away. Talk about lightning striking twice....
I have one repair to do from a very idiotic hangar rash mistake. I cracked the rudder balsa in 2 spots transporting the Twist down to the basement. The covering is still intact and I'm trying to do a more "surgical" repair to it without destroying the plane's coating. A friend of mine gave me the idea of using a syringe and mixing some epoxy with alcohol to thin it out. Then make a small cut for the syrning tip and goop epoxy on the cracked area. I hope to have it fixed here before I would go flying this weekend.
I have one repair to do from a very idiotic hangar rash mistake. I cracked the rudder balsa in 2 spots transporting the Twist down to the basement. The covering is still intact and I'm trying to do a more "surgical" repair to it without destroying the plane's coating. A friend of mine gave me the idea of using a syringe and mixing some epoxy with alcohol to thin it out. Then make a small cut for the syrning tip and goop epoxy on the cracked area. I hope to have it fixed here before I would go flying this weekend.
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From: Pickerington,
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dkurschner,
One of the guys in our club made a repair to his rudder with a syringe but I think he used CA. Epoxy scares me less and the clean-up would be easier. I'm sure if you think it out you will be OK. I've done the same thing to my planes because my basement doesn't open to the outside. We'll be looking forward to your next flight report. Good luck!
One of the guys in our club made a repair to his rudder with a syringe but I think he used CA. Epoxy scares me less and the clean-up would be easier. I'm sure if you think it out you will be OK. I've done the same thing to my planes because my basement doesn't open to the outside. We'll be looking forward to your next flight report. Good luck!
#2784
Hey PropSpinner, glad you told us you are a fellow Alabamian.... and even more glad you gave a big War Eagle!!! [sm=thumbup.gif]
ghee
*I was a redneck before Foxworthy made it popular*
ghee
*I was a redneck before Foxworthy made it popular*
#2785
Ya, it was sad
,ghee was there when she went in.she crashed about .96mile away from the field! i was lucky it didn't hit anyone. here's a pic when i knew she was gone.
hey propspinner, hello from the south. beshure to keep all the snow up ya'lls way.(just kidding, that would kill your flying time.).WAR EAGLE TO YA!
,ghee was there when she went in.she crashed about .96mile away from the field! i was lucky it didn't hit anyone. here's a pic when i knew she was gone. hey propspinner, hello from the south. beshure to keep all the snow up ya'lls way.(just kidding, that would kill your flying time.).WAR EAGLE TO YA!
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someone was asking about wheel pants
these are the one's i have, after i side hopped on the runway
& bent the O.E.M. worked out ok, did not change my CG at all
plus they look cool
tommorow i will try out a 3 blade prop 13x7x3
will let you know how all goes
these are the one's i have, after i side hopped on the runway
& bent the O.E.M. worked out ok, did not change my CG at all
plus they look cool
tommorow i will try out a 3 blade prop 13x7x3
will let you know how all goes
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I just got back from by Twists first flight, I am running a Evolution .46 and a 11x6 prop at the moment. Just love this little plane, much more fun than the last two planes I had, (a H9 Arrow and a World Models Mach I Raider), the Raider I was not real fond of. I kept it on the lower rates and found this to be just about right for her maiden voyage. I had just enough time to make a couple of touch and goes and two landings and takeoffs before it got too dark. I did dink the left wing a bit on the first landing, I think that I am going to soften up the expo a bit next time. Only damage was a bit of the sheeting was pushed back a bit, but doesnt appear to be a big deal, should be an easy fix/patch job. I didnt even notice this until I had gotten home. I started it back up right after and took off and flew around another couple of rounds before it just got to dark. What a great plane, lots of fun potentional here. I am going to patch tonight and fly again tomorrow weather permitting.
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Nice job on the maiden fmulder. Where did the c.g. end up? You were thinking of using a brass spinner nut to get it forward a bit. Yup, you need to ding it up a bit before you can relax and enjoy it. Good luck tomorrow.
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TimC, I did use a brass spinner nut, I still had to put the engine pretty far foward on the mount. It is set up at 4", with the aluminum spinner nut it sets at 4.75", but I will not be flying it set there for a while. One more thing this little plane just floats, the first couple of passes I made I couldnt get this plane to stop flying, it flys a lot slower and with a lot more control around stall speeds than my trainer style planes. Its great.
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Yeah, I ended up making some very small incisions in the coating close to the two small cracks in the rudder balsa frame. I gooped in a fair amount of CA (as opposed to Epoxy) inside the rudder which seemed to work very well. I decided to cover the incinsions with small patch pieces of covering although they were small enough that the CA could hold them closed and from growing or pulling open. It looks just fine and there was no damage to the colored twist stripe covering.
I didn't know the flood status of our airfield today so I opted to wait until tomorrow (Sunday) to head out there to fly the Twist again. So hopefully I can resist the "Twist Hand Launch" on the Twist's second flight session. I'm going to now program some dual rates with increased throws and see what this bird can really do.
I didn't know the flood status of our airfield today so I opted to wait until tomorrow (Sunday) to head out there to fly the Twist again. So hopefully I can resist the "Twist Hand Launch" on the Twist's second flight session. I'm going to now program some dual rates with increased throws and see what this bird can really do.
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Wow, what a day with the Twist today! I got some more guts today and gained comfort flying the Twist. I did several solid Knife Edges, Harriers, and even managed a hover or two. I kept trying more and more tricks as this plane seems to dole out the confidence by the way she flies. With the Saito 82 in there, it will go vertical without losing a beat. The Twist is surely a pleasure to fly and it seemed contagious to some of the other guys at our airfield. Even with my CG at 4 inches and the the low throws set, I found it fairly easy to keep the plane stable when doing maneuvers at or below stall speed. I can only imagine how insane this thing will be with the full throws.
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Since I decided not to sell the Twist, and put a new engine in it. I figured it was time for a new look.
I pulled all the highlight covering off and left the big patches of purple on the wing and horiz. stab.
Obviously I'm not finished, but it's getting close.
I pulled all the highlight covering off and left the big patches of purple on the wing and horiz. stab.
Obviously I'm not finished, but it's getting close.
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From: East Nassau,
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Wow,
A lot of Twist stuff has happened over the weekend, unfortunately we were rained out this weekend[:@] So I am jonesin for some Twist time now, sorry to hear of the run-a-way and the smash Fyrwalker, its always painful to hear about, but usually very cool to watch.[>:] you have to love Glue. I sure do.
Prop - I also started my career with the house Iron for monocoting, as a matter of fact I bought my wife a new one and told her I broke her old one, which is how I was able to justify buying one in our broke days, and keeping her happy about it, not that I'm any richer today, LOL, but personally I love using it,, it covers Huge areas much faster then the little Iron which I did end up buying eventually anyway, But I always return to the House Iron. as a matter of fact all my planes on my profile page were wrapped with a house Iron.
I think we should have the south collect the snow this year so Us Yankees can have a full season of WARM flying, We are suppose to be in Ohio in 2 weeks for our annual Roller coastering cedar point trip, can't wait, But it will take another weekend of flying my toys away.
Backwing- The wrap jobs looking great, post the finished product when your done.
Dkursch- This plane is real insane with full throws, its Awesome what this plane can do and handle.
Sorry to be long in the thread kids, but I didn't get to fly this weekend and my home computer crashed, so I couldn't even flight Sim it, your stories kept me going, Its still raining hear in NY and has been since Friday night, but their predicting Sun by this Saturday, I'm going to fly until my batteries die and my plane just fly's away.
A lot of Twist stuff has happened over the weekend, unfortunately we were rained out this weekend[:@] So I am jonesin for some Twist time now, sorry to hear of the run-a-way and the smash Fyrwalker, its always painful to hear about, but usually very cool to watch.[>:] you have to love Glue. I sure do.
Prop - I also started my career with the house Iron for monocoting, as a matter of fact I bought my wife a new one and told her I broke her old one, which is how I was able to justify buying one in our broke days, and keeping her happy about it, not that I'm any richer today, LOL, but personally I love using it,, it covers Huge areas much faster then the little Iron which I did end up buying eventually anyway, But I always return to the House Iron. as a matter of fact all my planes on my profile page were wrapped with a house Iron.
I think we should have the south collect the snow this year so Us Yankees can have a full season of WARM flying, We are suppose to be in Ohio in 2 weeks for our annual Roller coastering cedar point trip, can't wait, But it will take another weekend of flying my toys away.

Backwing- The wrap jobs looking great, post the finished product when your done.
Dkursch- This plane is real insane with full throws, its Awesome what this plane can do and handle.
Sorry to be long in the thread kids, but I didn't get to fly this weekend and my home computer crashed, so I couldn't even flight Sim it, your stories kept me going, Its still raining hear in NY and has been since Friday night, but their predicting Sun by this Saturday, I'm going to fly until my batteries die and my plane just fly's away.
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Well, I maidened my Twist yesterday. It flew awsome. I am running a saito 82 on it with a 13x6 prop. What prop are you guys running with your saito 82. I was almost bummed out. I got the engine all tuned out and was getting ready to take it out on the field, but I noticed the screw out of the pushrod connector attached to the rudder servo arm was gone. I was able to find a 1" screw to work until I could get home to replace it. I also maidened my goldberg Sukhoi with a YS140. I honestly can say I had more fun with the Twist. Don't get me wrong, I think the Sukhoi is great. I was just more comfortable with the twist.
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Thanks, I've had the sukhoi for a couple months and just finished putting the twist together, I've just been too busy to get out and fly (I have a three month old daughter). I'm starting my next project, a 30% BME 540 edge with a DA50. The twist is definitely a keeper even though I'm building a gasser.
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ddierking - I'm running the Saito .82 in my Twist. I use the APC 14 x 4 WIDE prop. Its a bit more expensive than the standard sport props but its "The Prop". It'll pull my plane vertical until its out of sight. Giver a try.
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I took my Twist out again today. After spending a day hunting around for an o-ring for the carb on the little evo .46, I headed out to my usual spot. The engine fired first flip, quick warm up, and up she went. After about 5 minutes of some nice relaxing passes back and forth the engine started to cut out. I was almost lined up to land when it died. Only problem is that the road I was landing on has deep ruts at the particular location were the Twist was going to run out of altitude and airspeed. It took what little airspeed it had left to make the slight correction to get it into some waist deep Prairie and as it turns out what would have been a short stall spin of death for my old H9 arrow, turned out to be more of a controlled semi stall with a soft flat plop of a touch down. I ran over to see that the plane was sitting in one piece. There was about a 1/4 gap in the two muffler halves and no nut on the end of the rod. Just happened to have a misc nut set rolling around the bottom of a toolbox in my car, so I double nutted it ,fired it up and flew till dark. Have I mentioned how I love this little plane.



