I just received my 33% Ultimate, and I started to work on it. The first thing I noticed is that the wings are so thin that a standard servo will not fit. Any suggestions on what servo to use in the wings?

Sam

keep us posted on the fit, finish, and quality for the AW ARF.....There are several posts in the Giant Scale Forums about quality issues........

Test flew my 27% today. You should have blocks (covered with matching covering) to glue as stand offs. Be forwarned-- the instructions on my 27% were not good at all. just a few things----If your top wings will not go together check to see if it is hiting the cabane braces-- they have a certain way to go which is not mentioned in the instructions. If Rocko tells you to enlarge the holes and that does not fix the problem, expect him to tell you a new alunimun rib is $15.95 plus shipping. Also, it is easier to mount (and glue) the wood cabane mounts inside the fuse BEFORE you glue the firewall and engine box in place.

$15.95 for you to fix their problem.....unreal !!!!!!!

I'm using reg size servos in mine! I had to put on some stand-offs so the servo would not hit the other side of the wing. (top)

I have 48 Flights on mine and Love it!! Still Learning the plane and fine triming.

Mine was one of two Prototypes... It was on display at Toledo and Joe Nall. So their maybe some changes.

If you want some pics just ask.

Later Scott

Yea-- a bit of a sore subject with me right now. Plane is a great flyer, though.

HMMMMMMMMMM......makes you wonder......
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Thanks for the replies, and I think I will go with some JR 9411 short profile servos. They have 82oz's of tork. I'm sure that will be enough for this plane. Regarding quality control, I purchased an ARC version, and to be honest with you, so far it looks pretty good. I like the fact that I can see how it is constructed, and if need be, making any modifications is easily done. I also like the fact that I can cover it however way I like. I have just started to assemble it, but I will keep you posted on how it goes.

rcflyguy_26

I'm curious as to where you ended up putting the rudder servos? I noticed that they give you the option of either using two servo's in the the tail, or installing a pull pull in the fuse.

How did yours balance??

Samsrc,

I put the rudder servos in the tail. I'm using a older 3W100,A little heavy.

You may not be happy with the 82 OZ servos! I have 130oz digi's on the ailerons now... I'm thinking of going to 170+. I'm getting some blow-by at higher speeds

Scott

Really on the blow back?? Does it fly that fast?? I would never have thought that 80oz's of tork is not enough for that size of Ultimate, let alone 130...wow!

I have already bought the servos, and for now I will try them anyway to see what happens

Thanks again for the info rcflyguy_26

Sam

My 27% recommends a minimum of 80 oz (I think) with digitial metal gear recommended on ALL OF THE CONTROL SURFACES. I was going to use JR 8101s on the ailirons and 5945s elsewhere ---I ended up with 5945s all around except for the rudder which is a JR 8611. Remember I am refering to the 27%. It is a great flying machine.

I had the same problem with my 27% and was told I was the only one and they had not hered of the problem till I called . It seemed to me for the extra price there product has gone down in quality

I've had mine flying for a couple of weeks. The kit went together well. Some fit and finish problems, but nothing that can't be fixed. It really is a great flier.

(6) 5945 on the ali and elevators, (2) 8611 for the rudder mounted on the tail, (2) 9602 for the throttle and choke. I'm using the power box competition with (2) 2100 sub c batteries mounted just in front of the CG and (1) 2100 sub c for the ignition. I'm using the DA 100 with DA mufflers and 3W 27 x 10.

The one thing that I struggled with the most is the flying wire. Maiden flight took me about 45 minutes to put the wires on. Now that the wires have stretched a bit and I used a little lock tight to keep the turn buckles together it takes about 15 minutes. In this case practice makes perfect.

Over all the design is one of the best. Fit and finish is far better that I could have ever done, but not perfect. It took me 38 hours to complete the kit. I also went with the vinyl decals.

This is a real treat to watch fly and actually fly. If I had it to do again I would go with an ARC and cover it in the Blue Hawk scheme.

Here are some pics from the weekend. If you need any other pics let me know:

Oh really now............ I was told the exact same thing less than 2 weeks ago. (If I did not know better I would think somebody wants to sell some extra aluminum ribs) I ended up making my top wing one piece-- of course I have a trailer and it is really nice to keep it together all of the time.

samsrc,

You really may want to rethink the 80oz servo thing. I would hate to have all of those Bashers out there to have some thing else to ***** about!

Why don't you guys take it some where else! Samsrc was asking for some help! Not for you guys to *****! What you guys did is not cool![:'(]

I know aeroworks has some problems right now... But if a guys wants help, help him, don't bash what he bought.

If I were samsrc I'd be very up set at this.

Scott

Please notice my first post--it is number 3 and it is in response to post number 2 and number 1. Please also note that I offered some advice to help somebody avoid possible mishaps. Sorry if my honesty and candidness has offended anybody. Most people want to know the truth.

I wish I had read that somewhere before I bought mine. I am not bashing what he just bought--HEY-- I JUST BOUGHT ONE TOO!

rcflyguy_26 there is bashing in all these forums, some of them have a legitimate beef, some of them just like to make waves. I take it all in stride, and make my own conclusions. You can't believe everything you read, and for the most part this forum is a great place to share info with other modelers.

Hey fly3dnyc did you also experience blow back on the ailerons using the Hitec 5945's?

One other question....Did anyone else have any problems getting the top aluminum rib to fit properly??

FWIW, one of the locals here has the 33% Ultimate and has mentioned to me that the top aluminum rib doesn't fit properly and that he would have to make some changes to it, although I don't know what that would invlove, since I personally don't have the Ultimate.....

My experience is THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE RIB ITSELF. It is the instructions. The brace that connects the top front of the cabane with the botton rear is labled with letters and numbers and says you should easily be able to figure it out. The top part of the cabane that attaches below the top wing is specificly shaped to fit under the wing (it is smaller at this end) and the instructions do not tell you this at all-- this means there is a specific left and a specific right side and if the two are backwards the wing will not come together. There is a 50/50 chance you would not even notice this. Since my anti-rotation dowels were broken when I got the plane and Rocco suggested I glue them back in place--it was assumed that they were not glued correctly and they were binding as they were going into the aluminum rib --- that is when Rocco suggested that I enlarge the hole that the anti rotation dowls go through and he assured me that he had never come accross this before--After enlarging the holes and finding that this was not the problem I got to looking elsewhere and that is when I discovered that the wing was not coming together because of the cabane. After I explained to Rocco what I found to be the problem, that is when he offered to sell me a new rib at full retail price of $15.95 plus $7.50 S&H. My suggestion is join the wings with the rib in place and not attached to the plane--then figure out the cabanes. PS--I ended up permantly joining my top wing with epoxy to remove any slop and loose play--didn't cost anything and I think it is much stronger this way. Of course I have the smaller one. Also--ALLOW ME TO SAY THIS FOR THE THIRD TIME so I don't come across as bashing-----This is one super flying plane when you get it finished.

Does anyone know what the proper incidents should be?? Should both wings be 0?

Not sure what you mean by blowback.

I did struggle with the top wing. First I thought I was going to break the thing cause I wasn't going to give up. I stopped for that evening and went back to it the next day and you know what, it fit. I did have to re glue the pins, but I think I would have done that anyway. Hey, wait ‘til you get to the flying wires. It is no fault in design; it is the nature of working with wire that stretches. Actually the design is excellent and once the wires are stretched assembly at the field goes much faster.

One thing I have to say is this is one great flying plane. It is the smallest 100cc Ultimate and I can fit it in the Subaru station wagon.

Sorry, never checked the incidents. Figured that it was set by design. I did check it in flight and seems pretty good. Powered off vertical dive neutralize elevator model continues straight down. No change needed.

Hope this helps.

AJF--2
what motor and prop r u running on yours ?