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Old 10-04-2002, 02:16 AM
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Going by the directions works fine,but if you would feel better and need to waste up some time, then do it different.
Have a goodun,John.
Old 10-04-2002, 02:13 PM
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Dwight...

I mounted my fuel tank as per the instructions, and there was still room to squeeze a little foam in, around, and underneath. I've had zero fuel foaming problems, and I did silicone the tank to the firewall. When I glued a stick of balsa across the inside of the fuse to hold the tank in, I put a small piece of foam between it and the back of the tank. If you need a little foam at odd hours, Wal-mart sells a dog-bone shaped car wash sponge (foam) for .99. Works great!

BTW, your gonna love this plane!
Old 10-04-2002, 02:23 PM
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PM Martin.....

Ok, I took your advise and picked up the Dubro fiberglass landing gear. I think it will work great after comparing it with the stocker. I also picked up some Dubro spring steel 5/32" x 2" axles, and wheel collars. I already had upgrade the tires due to losing one during a flight! The landing without one wheel was rather uneventful. I put it down REAL slow on our grass runway, and it landed great, just skidded to the right a little. Much better than what I thought the outcome would be! I'm glad we have the option of pavement, or grass at our airfield!

And in response to someelse question....

I'm using a 12/6 sport prop with my .61 FX.
Old 10-06-2002, 01:40 AM
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I would also put some foam in front of gas tank to protect from the blind nuts, this is a must do if you plan on flying the plane alot..
Old 10-12-2002, 09:16 PM
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DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE INCIDENCE SHOULD BE ON THIS PLANE. ANYTHING ABOVE HALF THROTTLE THIS THING WILL CLIMB BIG TIME.

BTW KNOW THAT THE ALERIONS ARE GLUED HOW WOULD YOU CHECK THE INCIDENCE.

THANKS DENNIS
Old 10-14-2002, 02:34 PM
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If that was a 4 Star 60 ARF, there should have been a piece of wood that you set on TOP of the wing, that indicates where to set the ailerons for neutral position. It has two angles on the bottom, and if you have it, you'll notice that the ailerons appear to be "up" slightly. If you don't have one, e-mail me your adrress and I'll either trace it and mail it to you, or fax it to you, and you can cut one out of a scrap piece of balsa.

Me being the nice guy that I am..........
Old 10-14-2002, 08:41 PM
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sledman yes i have that piece of wood to set the alirons with and they are in neutral but it still climbs past half throttle think the incidence is off.

thanks dennis
Old 10-14-2002, 08:46 PM
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Call Sig's customer service and see what they say!
Old 10-14-2002, 09:01 PM
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that was the next step
Old 10-14-2002, 11:02 PM
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Dennis did you have any problems seating the wing to the fuselage? When I put mine together the wing didn't fit well. I moved the hole for the wing dowel lower that must have had some effect on the wing incidence, and my 4*60 flies straight at all power settings with an OS .91 FX.

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Old 10-14-2002, 11:25 PM
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no not really but it did'nt sit flat there was a little gap at the end of the wing saddle till i tightened it down do you think this will affect the incidence
Old 10-15-2002, 12:25 AM
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You either have positive wing incidence or your engine thrust is off.
Old 10-15-2002, 12:30 PM
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Dennis
When I went to install my wing the gap at the back where the bolts go was in excess on an inch... I first tried to sand the fuselage wing saddle to conform to the wing, but then I realized that the bottom of the leading edge of the wing had a similar gap where the fuselage curves back down to fit with the bottom of the leading edge. So I lowered the dowel hole and every thing fit well.

I guess if you a good fit from the top of the wing saddle to the wing, the bottom of the leading edge and you didn't sand the wing saddle to make it fit, you should have the proper wing incidence.

Stephen
Old 10-15-2002, 03:33 PM
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SIG JUST SENT ME A E-MAIL AND TOLD ME.


WING INCIDENCE IS +2

STAB IS O

ENGINE DOWN THRUST IS 2

THE WING FITS GOOD TO THE WING SADDLE I'AM GOING TO CHECK DOWN THRUST.

THANKS GUYS

DENNIIS
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My wing also did not fit into the saddle. The dowel holes had to be moved, as well as the very top of the fuselage had to be milled to make it fit right.

And it flies great. Flew last night, in fact. Another couple of weeks and we will be done with the "after work" flying for this season. It was too dark to fly at 7:00 last night!
Old 10-15-2002, 08:11 PM
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hey guys can you tell where your holes are located for the guide pins for the wing mine are just above the brace of the former in front of the wing saddle


thanks dennis
Old 10-15-2002, 08:35 PM
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Mine were.....we ended upl owering them a little, even after we shaved the middle of the fuse saddle.
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just checked everything out and its where it's suppose to be.

why does it still climb
Old 10-15-2002, 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by Mach1Latus
the control rods for the tail would would bind at the fuse exit, so I replaced the ny-rod with 36" Sullivan 4-40 steel rod(after people told me that the ny-rod would expand and contract with temp requiring trim changes with temperature)
Hi Stephen, I replaced mine with 2-56 steel rods (with tubings). Thought that the 4-40 was kinda heavy. Anyway, if it works for you, leave it............
Old 10-16-2002, 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by Crash_N_Burn
Here's a pix of the tail wheel mod.....double-up on the light-ply tail-wheel piece and go for it....this happens to be a Klett .60 size...
Hi crash&burn, I noticed that you're using steel control rods for your 4*60 tail surfaces. May I know if the're 2-56 or 4-40 ? Thanks..........
Old 10-16-2002, 02:08 AM
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2-56.

I felt this would be adequate.

It is a rocket with a Sport Jett .76 and there are no signs of instability on any of the control surfaces.

On a bigger plane with more control surface demands, I would use 4-40.
Old 10-16-2002, 03:59 AM
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Hey Guys,

Graphtech in Dayton ,Ohio makes Carbon Fiber main gears for the 4*40 and at my request now for the 120. I'll bet if someone asks them they will make a 60 size also. Great people to work with. Looks great, is strong ,less bounce and saves weight over the stock gear.
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Originally posted by secondchildhood
Dubro PN 789 recommended for .35 to .50 planes. Top width is 3 and 7/16, height is 4 and 1/2, overall width is 14" This is the gear most of my local 4*60 buds use on their planes with good results. I just picked one up for mine this weekend for $13.35 at my LHS. One friend did a bucket job on his 60 and the gear still survived fine. He's using it on the replacement plane.

Dwight
Hi Dwight, the Dubro base length is slightly shorter. Do you have a pic of it on your plane ? I'll get one if it looks OK. Thanks........
Old 10-17-2002, 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by Volfy
The Venture 60 gear should fit perfectly and is thicker at 1/8". At $9.95, fairly reasonably priced too.

http://www.btemodels.com/prices.html
I measured my stock gear thickness and it is also 1/8". Not sure if aluminum grade is different ? Otherwise seems like the venture gear is the same in toughness ??
Old 10-17-2002, 02:45 AM
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Default Sig 4 Star 60 ARF

Originally posted by rajul


Hi Dwight, the Dubro base length is slightly shorter. Do you have a pic of it on your plane ? I'll get one if it looks OK. Thanks........
I've noticed that also, but it seems to work fine on the planes at the local RC club. I have not started on my plane yet. But this is the one the local guys use and recommend. I agree, it would be nice if the base was just a bit wider and would go from side to side on the fuse. To me anything that will "return to orig shape" after a not so soft landing will be better than a bent and out of alignment aluminum gear.

Dwight


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