Hello,


What would be an good second plane? What would you reccomend?

I am considering:

[link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=SEA2025]Extra 300S .60 ARF [/link]
[link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN2675]FuntanaS 3D .60-.90 ARF[/link]
[link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=SEA1025]Edge 540 .60 ARF[/link]


What would you Reccomend/Consider?

Thanks for all of the Help [8D]

sorry your search function isn't working.....

Those planes might not be the best...
I suggest a 4* or a Tiger

The ones you mention wouldn't last long. Too big a jump from a trainer. A Goldberg tiger 2 as someone mentioned would be a better choice. World Models Super Sports 40, of the T34 which flys similair to the Super Sports but has a military look. Great Planes Super Sportster Mk2 would also work well. You want a plane that will have more speed than your trainer and be more responsive. You also need a plane that is forgiving and won't snap stall on you if you get a touch too slow. Thats where the 3 choices that you picked will let you down every time. They will snap on a dime, sometimes you want it do that, sometimes you don't. Its when you don't that you find your plane in trouble. [8D]

This is an excellent second plane, and also very cheap.

[link=http://www.airborne-models.com/html/productdetails.asp?ProductID=16]http://www.airborne-models.com/html/productdetails.asp?ProductID=16[/link]

A friend of mine bought one, and I was very impressed on how it flew. It slows down quite well on landings too.

I am thinking of getting one, and converting it to electric.

Ok,

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This is a fantastic plane, very well made, awesome cover job and not expensive!!!
But the best thing is the flying!!!! This plane handles awesome, and yet with a decent size engine will do all the tricks in the book, the landings are slow and predicatble.
Honestly - go and get one!!!!

RJ

Warning - you can easily find a lot of posts with exactly the same topic. unless you give us some background that is different from others, you can just refer to them. if your first plane was a 50% edge, those planes you mentioned seem a little small. on the other hand, if your first plane was a piece of folded newspaper or a foamie from kmart, you might consider a trainer.

Sorry to say this but I must say that any beginner who can competently fly a trainer (not the trainer is flying him), can easily fly and land the F90. I flew mine and a lot of beginners were shocked as to how slow it comes in for a landing. Not advisable though ...

yes, tianci, while that might be true, would you give your F90 (if you still had it) to one of those beginners to fly? i'd be very hesitant. i have the F40 and it does fly like it should be very easy and it is if you have all the settings on mild with minimal throw. but truth be told, it's not as stable or forgiving as a low wing trainer like the WM supersports. plus, it really isn't built to take rough landings, big bounces or some of the very normal beginner abuse. and, it's a terror on windy days due to it's fat wing and light wing loading. but clearly, it is not as challenging as the other two warning suggested.

if you do settle on the F90, i'd say make sure you can fly the plane from take off to landing rather than sometimes letting the plane fly itself (trainers are self-righting). maybe a good test is to fly your trainer inverted a few circuits two mistakes high to see if you can really fly the plane. if you can fly it around smoothly inverted, you should be okay for the F90. second, see if you can land your trainer without bouncing "too" much. try to just set it down nicely. no prop-busting landings. lastly, on windy days, i'd recommend that you bring in the plane with some speed until you're use to the slow flying characteristics of the plane. you could easily stall the plane if you're not careful.

personally, i'd vote for the supersports 40 or the kyosho low-wing calmato. the WM T-34 is also a good choice. but then that's like the hundredth time i've said that since this is the hundredth time this thread has been started

You can try the Ultra Stick series... I have the 1.20 Lite and I'd give it to a newby (on the buddy box) in a heartbeat!

I would stay away from all that you mentioned. I good friend of mine "had to have" a F90, and it was a very big jump for him to go from a trainer. It is very easy to fly, and can be very gentle, but it not forgiving at all. It is not very robust, so it won't take much abuse, hard landings etc. The biggest change for him was realizing that the F90 needs to flymuch slower than his trainer. He still is struggling with it. I think one of the " UglyStick" planes might be a better choice. A Tiger 2 or one of the Sig 4 Star planes would also work well. Good luck
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I counted its actually your 102nd time!!! Hahahahahaaa ... hey how have you been dude???!!! I sold the F90 and got the Harrier 3D, don't ask me why!

tIANci - for most things we do in this hobby, we needn't (shouldn't) ask why. there is no logic in this hobby... we do it for the sheer joy or rush of it. you must like the harrier. personally, i think the F40 and F90 are a little generic. something like the harrier, though not as "pretty", has a lot more pizzaz. that's why i added so much additional graphics on my F40.

update on my addiction. i've finally stopped my purchases recently. though that has something to do with the fact that i didn't win two engine bids on ebay :-) but i haven't bought a plane in a month. i'm not staying up till 2-3am in the morning assembling new planes. the plane i'm currently building, the second WM Cub .26 w O.S. 30FS, is coming along nice and slow. it's been two weeks and i've yet to CA the control surfaces on. but i'm going to see if I can have the plane up this weekend.

by the way, it's been way too long since we last hijacked a thread!

so to bring it back - warning, if the F90 is the plane you want, why not? as someone said, get it on buddy box and you should be fine as long as you can do what i suggested, fly inverted around the pattern a couple of loops. and while your at it, pick up some extra tri stock to reinforce the gear area. and whatever you do, DON'T fly at high speeds. i'd recommend you start with an APC 13 x 6 prop since they are much cheaper than the 14's and don't over power it. fly around at no more than half throttle unless you are going directly up.

honestly, though, i think you'd have a lot more fun with a low wing trainer. doesn't this look nice?