Will a Saito FA-182TD fly this plane with authority? Is it roughly the same power as an OS FT-160? Was gonna run a OS 160AX, but can't stand the thought of adding a couple of pounds of lead for balance. What about the Evolution 26 and 35 gas motors? I really want to run a twin - love the sound.

Thanks,

Clay

The 182 will fly it at least as good as the OS 1.60 Gemini if not a bit better. I agree with you on the twin sound.

I really like this pic

How about a G-38, that's what I am installing in mine right now.

I am sure it will be plenty of power, and I shouldn't have to add any weight!

G-38 ought to be a good match. They're great engines.

I thought I saw a G-38 install in this thread and it looked as though the guy had to cut out part of the firewall in doing the install, maybe for the muffler. Perhaps that was the Bison 2.4 install. G-38 sounds like a great option , with the weight bring what's needed and certainly low maintenance.

Clay

Mannnn I can not see myself cutting up my staggerwing like that.

Check post 804 for the pictures on my G-38 install.

And yes I cut the firewall no worries though.

I'll post pictures when it's done.

That is what I was talking about. I still could not see myself cutting into it like that. If I had to do that to install a engine, I would just make it a Hangar queen....that is just me.

The firewall cuts are all covered by the cowling once it's installed so it doesn't look nearly as "bad" as you might think.

I know, but I still could not do it!

Well, that's the great thing about this hobby. You get to do it the way you want. I didn't go with a G-38 either but for those that want the economy and clean running of a gas engine, it's definitely got its advantages. Each of us will do our own thing to suit our own preferences. Personally I couldn't bring myself to put a two stroke of any kind in this plane. Others will insist it simply has to have a radial of some sort. The great thing about this plane is that there's a way to accommodate most tastes. Enjoy!

Ok, best of both worlds - who makes a twin gasser small enough to fit under the hood of this baby! ? I'm torn between the sound but the mess and expense of a glow fuel twin, versus the ease of use of gas. Is there general consensus on the minimum weight that has to be under the cowl to bakance this plane?

Clay

somebody said they put a saito 180 in it and they had to put a extra 2lbs and 3 oz of weight in the front of it to balance it out, that is a another 36 ounces!!!!!! So based off that I would say you need a engine that is in the 60 oz mark or 3.75 lb mark....I am going off what he said, I still have not purchased my engine yet. I have also emailed rc magazine and they said they would contact the person who reviewed this plane and they will get back with me with how much it took to balance it out with the OS 160 2 cycle.

Here are a couple more pictures updating my progress of the G-38 install.

I really hope the Zenoah G-38 pulls it good!

Yeah, now that looks great. Great job with the work!!!!

Are there any other exhaust options for the G-38 that works around having to cut the front of the firewall? I hope so. Bought one today since the weight and power output looked about right. What size prop are you planning to run?

Clay

You might try Bisson for muffs.

http://www.bissonmufflers.com/en/index.html

I don't know all of what they have for yours but they do custom stuff.

She's a beauty in that pic GB. Wish they had done YELLOW!!!

grassroots - nice work on the firewall cutout. I painted my cutout with Lustrecoat and then went over it with thinned epoxy after the paint dried.

ClayH - your G-38 uses a 16 x 8 to 18 x 10 prop. It should give you plenty of power. My 2.4 cu. in. glow hauls ***. I used to fly a 108" Mr. Mulligan and a 99" Robinhood with G-38's and had plenty of power to spare. Both were 25+ lb planes.

Specs below.

G38 Engine (2.3 cu in)

Key Features
Magneto-driven CDI ignition system
One-piece chromed cylinder
Ball bearing-supported crankshaft
Overview
The G-38 is the ideal gas engine for models such as the Midwest Extra 300S, Cap 232 and Super Stinker, as well as the Lanier Cap 232 and Stinger 120, where sport performance is desired. It is also a popular choice for many scale projects. It will turn an 18 x 10 prop at 7100 to 7400 rpm.

Specs
Type:2-Stroke
Displacement:2.30 cu in (38.0 cc)
Bore:1.50 in (38.0 mm)
Stroke:1.30 in (33.0 mm)
Cylinders:Single - Chrome Plated
Total Weight:71 oz
Engine (Only) Weight:67 oz
Muffler Weight:4 oz
Crankshaft Threads:M8 x 1.25mm
Benchmark Prop:18 x 10 APC @ 7,300
Prop Range:16 x 8 - 18 x 6
RPM Range:2,100 - 9,500
Fuel:Gas/Oil Mix
Mounting Dimensions:108 x 135 x 194 mm
Muffler Type:Can
Cylinder Type:Ring
Carb Type:Walbro WT-338
Crank Type:Ball Bearing

There's a yellow Byron Staggerwing listed in the marketplace if anybody's interested...

http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=476635

I'm only $1,749 and 800 miles short, or I'd be ALL over it!

LOL

and used to boot !!!!!!!



Denis

OK,

There's talk about my graphics and "N" numbers for the Beech.

I've been offering them for a long time.

The "Beechcraft" text logo sells for 15.00 a set, or two of them. These are 4" long unless they are ordered in a different size.

The "N" numbers sell for 40.00 a set, or two "N" numbers. These are 5" tall.

Both are sized to fit the Top Flite Beechcraft. I've sent plenty of sets out and never have I received a complaint.

I sell the "N" numbers and the "Beechcraft" text together, as a set, for only 43.00. That's two of each. Yes I know, a great offering it is.

Black lettering outlined in gold.

I don't just do graphics, I'm a model builder also.