has anyone here had any exp with this plane? I am pretty sure I want one becuase its within my budget and Ive always wanted a plane of this type.(C-130/160 etc)

The kit indicates its sheeted foam wings with a fiberglass fuselage, flys on 20-30 size engines and looks fairly easy to put together. This is a plus since im a newbie.

Just wondering if any of you have had any input on this bird! :stupid:

Just wondering, you are refering to the one by Giant Scale Planes right? I have seen it also and was wondering if anyone has any experience with it. But for the money I would probally want the ARF A-26 sold by morris hobbies.

I looked at that one too but Im in love with the C-160!

Id love for someone to make an ARF airliner. Thats been my dream since I was a kid. DC-10 L10-11 Tristars etc.

If you are referring to the one by GSP, I have assembled and flown this kit. It looks very good, and flies well on two TT 25's. The landings are easy and it flies best at half throttle. The wing is junky and after and inflight failure due to a bad spar, I had to replace the spar and do some mods to the wing to get it flight worthy again. I lost an engine on about the 40th flight with this plane, and it occurred on takeoff (Landings on one are no problem). I accidently turned into the dead engine and it spun in, finishing off the wing. I tried with no success for the past 6 months to get a new wing from both GSP and othert suppliers and have no luck. They will sell me a whole new kit, but not a wing. I will cut my own out of foam one day and put it back in the air, but I am not doing business with them again.
Tommy

hmm..interesting they would not help you, thanks for the heads up, I might hold off on doing buisness with them then..ill look for an EDF Jetliner now I guess

I have posted my experience before, and do not want to expound on the issue but when I contacted them and asked about purchasing a wing, I was told they would lose money by doing that, but if I wanted a wing they would break open a kit and sell me one for $225 plus shipping, but they would encourage me to try and fix it myself. It was after this exchange and numerous other ones that I heard about here that I decided I did not care to do business with them again.
I still have the fuse and it is really nice. The thing looks great coming in, and it caught attention everywhere I flew it. Right now it sits in the warehouse hangar waiting for a refit.
TOmmy

has anyone sent this thread to GSP so they know that they are making a big mistake not selling wing kits, if you guys would like, ill send it to them and also tell them they are losing buys and im one of them--be in their best intrest to sell wings for their planes to, just say the word--Ill send.

by all means send it, wouldnt hurt, we are the consumers that drive this hobby to begin with

no problem--will do

40 flights isnt too bad for an artf! i just bought the kit earlier on tonight, the gear is a bit fiddly to attach and the wheels are tight but its pure class lookin and is really light. I think ill put two os 25fx's in. Itll be my fourth modela dn first twin so im hopin it will be good. Ive also started my plans to cut the fibreglass at the back and attach a servo so i have a ramp =D

well, its been basicly about a month and no word about anything, seems they arnt to worried about it.

GSP knows they have a bad rep and it doesn't matter to them at all. They keep selling kits so why would it matter to them?

Like the guy on Inside RC sez ... "Never buy any RC products if they don't have replacement parts." ... or something to that effect. Good advice.

I know this is a late response to this thread but I currently own a GSP C-160 transall and I love it.

I had a radio failure on my second flight and the wing was split in two, fortunatley one of thier re-sellers is a member of my field.

I did pay through the nose for the wing but I was able to have a replacement wing with in a week or so. I want to say $150-170 but I can not remember excactly.

As far as the plane is concerned, extremely cheap hardware, just discard all of the hardware and buy your own wing bolts etc...

the landing gear: put some nice scale wheels on the outside and leave the original wheels for the inside.

You will want to use your own epoxy on the wood servo/landing gear mounts as a real tuff landing will break their "hot glue" free.

This plane is so fun to fly and land that it may be worth the extra headace that comes with it.

It just needs a little extra care and glue.

Allways a show stopper.

I am running 2 os 25fx with "Max mufflers" (black one piece) and it is way too much power. If I were to do it again I would use 4 strokes. The plane is very, very light.

I do have the ramp in the back and that makes it even more fun.
I deploy a rc tank with parachute.

Got any pictures of your C-160 ..Ramp in action? What brand rc Tank did you use,,,I was thinking the same thing...A fella in the IMAA put a 8 inch section in the middle to make it 80" and IMAA legal..He drops paratroopers out the back... Lets see some pics and tell us how you rigged it up ,,,,I want one just like it...

Nemesis4u,

I hate to admit it but I do not have a dig. camera. But I do have buddies and I will work on it (see if I can get pics by the weekend)

As far as the ramp is concerned, I just cut out the outline of the ramp door, I used a bomb bay door hinge. (I will have to get manufacture names later.) The hinge is black and it has a lever attached that moves the door hinge up and down. I used a throtle wire push rod set up and ran the tube back to where the rudder servo mounts and made a crude mount for a mini servo (metal gear).

When I decided to do the ramp I realized, do to CG issues, I would need to cut out the main support connecting the servo mounts/landing gear mounts (one in the same) so that I could get the tank/or other cargo far enough in the plane to keep balance issues to a min.

You should and will need to re-epoxy all mounts inside the plane. (This is where the company went cheap and used what looks like hot glue) After I cut the back wood support between the servo mounts, and still in the mod stage, I was flying and bounced her a bit hard and busted out the mounts, minor prob and I should have epoxied it myself to begin with.

The tank is the Kyosho, Abrams M1 (cant remember the scale).
Only complaint is the range of the radio. You need to get the plane pretty close for it to work. On the runway it is no problem, so you can still get some real fun out of it if you do a touch and go and try and back the tank out at the same time. ( have not tried that yet )

Otherwise if you can land the Tank on the runway or close enough it can be real cool to drive the tank back.

This plane is perfect for using as a heavy lift plane. It is so light and I never fly over half throttle. I was looking at one of the RC skydivers as well.

Sorry to report no pics. but I will work on it by the weekend.

I can't find anyone to get the wing from. I tried GSP, but they wanted over $200 for the wing. I have been toying with the idea of cutting one out and rebuilding the wing, I loved the way it flew, and it looked great.
TOmmy

does the plane offer retracts?

On the retracts, I wanted to find a way to install some type of retracts but it is pretty tight in there. I do not know of anyone offering retracts but that would be the best. it would just look so cool when you come around and see the pregnant whales belly all clean. Beautiful thought.

I am working on getting the name and number of the guy I bought my plane from and extra wing. I will agree though, it was expensive, I just dont remember it reaching $200 for a wing.

I just put a call out for his name and number and see if he can help you get a wing.

Hmmm nice kit indeed.

here's the web site:

http://www.giantscaleplanes.com/Transall_72build.htm


elim

I checked on the wing ordering sit. and my supplier did say that they do cost about $190 before shipping/tax etc.. and that you would be better off contacting them directly. It is a shame that they want to charge so much for so little. after we spent $350!

sorry to deliver bad news.

Should have some pics in a day or so.

Well Dynamic Balsa will cut you a new wing if you can send them an outline of the center section and last "rib cross section of airfoil at the tip",,,,I bet they'd only charge you 65.00 or so....Great people... try them out go to www.dbalsa.com Well looking fwd to seeing some pics....Show us the tank w/parachute and door etc.... anyone have any websites w/military colorschemes of this plane?????????

I recently purchased the camo version in November. They have changed the wing. Mine is built up balsa not foam. I know someone with the original C-160 and they have the foam core wing also. One other change that I have noticed is the engine nacelles have a better fit to the wing now verses the first kits. Other than these 2 items the kits are still the same.

love to see some pics of yours

Unfortunitly it is still in the box due to other projects that I am working on right now. Hopefully I will start it by the end of January.

Go to the twin-multi section here and rryman and i have pictures posted of our C-160's. We are located in Harrisonburg Va. Valley R/C Flying Club. You are welcome to come down and watch these beautiful planes in the air sometime. Randy and i just flew them on Jan 4th2004 , what a beautiful day in the 70's here. Randy has more experience with the twins, but i must say the C-160 flys like a trainer. We both have OS LA 25's on them and they are more power than needed for sure. I do believe a good BB 15 or 20 would fly these planes. The LA's turn the 9/5's about 11,000 and they fly very nicely at half throttle. TO run is about 75-100 ft on grass. They look some real on final. and with a little up held in they touch down on the mains and run along the runway for a bit til the nose wheel drops down. Very scale like landings. As i was told by twinman here, the most important thing you have to have is engine reliablity. I set mine up with mini servos in the nacelles, for throttle. It weighs 7.5 lbs ready to fly. I start the engine one at a time and set they engines individually for best performance. They are so close in RPM that i dont bother to match them exactly. I just want both running well. Some have said its best to detune the highest reving engine to the low one.. I never have bothered just have them both running reliable at idle, mid and high throttle. One bit of advice rryman told me about is how to attach the nacelles to the foam sheeted wing. Cut small pieces of Ny-Rod and epoxy them into the wing,then trim the Ny-Rod flush with the surface of the wing skin. The screws that come with the kit to hold on the nacelles then thread into the hole in the center of the Ny-Rod. works like a dream. The hardware the comes with the kit is pretty much junk, it was dicarded and replace with DuBro parts. The place where the fuel tanks go has to be modified to fit in the supplied tanks not a big deal but needs some attention. The nose wheel pieces are made of soft aluminum and needs to be redone.Randy and i both made a tray to mount the Rx on that stands up between the gear mounts, makes checking plugs in the Rx a lot easier. We both used a piece of Velcro glued to the floor of the fuse right behind the nose wheel bulkhead to hold the battery in place. It eliminates the need for nose weight if the battery is mounted back by the main wheels. The kit does not come with any decals some thats is up to up to find, we both used US markings on ours mine is Navy, Randy used USAF.

Hope that helps in the kit building(assembly) process's,

Pete