Just got started on this one and only have the wings attached but see something down the road..
On the literature of this plane all the pix show the engine installed at an angle.Why? Couldn't they have just put the engine sideways or inverted instead of the engine sticking out the upper side of the cowling..Wondering why it's like this...For a purpose???
Also the engine mount says aluminum but it feels like half a pound...Did you use it or use the plastic type..I'm using a OS 61 SFX.
Any help would be appreciated since I just got started,I'm sure I'll be back if theres anyone out there that have this plane....Thanx Walt

I just picked up this plane and had the same question about engine mounting so I began assembly with it. I answered by installing an OS .70 4 stroke at a quartered inverted angle, about 90 degrees from their recommendation. I assumed that the angle resulted from the unusual firewall installation: the mount has to clear the bolts. I discarded their aluminum mount and went with plastic. I don't anticipate a problem since the OS .70 is heavier than most of their recommended engines.

I also found at the Local hardware store 4mm x70 wing nuts to ease removal and installation of the wings. Everything so far seems solid. Have you had yours up yet?

Hey Phil,
Tell you what,I'm getting tired of seeing this thing just sittin in the garage..Looks nice and still in one peice,of course it hasn't left the garage yet..The weather has really been a bummer here.When it's not raining the wind is blowing 30..Just not flying weather at all.Not for me anyway.You can bet the first chance I get I'll be there.

On the positioning of the engine. I had intended to put the OS 61 SF in it and did at first.Ran fine up and down the street but when I was satified enough to put the cowl on, the engine was just too big to fit without butchering the cowl really bad.This particular engine is not made anymore but it was brand new but the thing was gigantic and weighed a lot. I tried different positioning of the engine and found out why they put it angled.The muffler was banging the side due to the sizable firewall and fuse. It did work sideways with a pitts style muffler and I really like it's looks but didn't want to cut the cowling to shreds..In the end I put the same thing you got in it.OS704S.Didn't have to cut the cowling near as much and it just fit a lot better. I ordered another cowl and it's installed and everything is ready to go as soon as the weather is standble.Sure lookin forward to our first flyable weather in weeks.
Keep me posted and let me know how yours goes..After all the negs on this plane I'm really curious as to what it's gonna do or not do..
Thanx...Walt

hi!! i just bought one of this, today, vmar edge 5407, and a magnum xls 52, what do you think about this motor for this plane? i also have a supertigre gs 45, new, runs perfect, never fly, yet, wich is better? dou you have any picture of the position of the motor? [&:], i hope your help, thanks

me again, itĀ“s a vmar 540t, 46-61, so......if you know wich one of the motor is better for that model iĀ“ll tanks you

Hi there,
The VMAR Edge is a heavy weight but a great flier.I'd put as much power under the hood as you can fit. It does well with the 70 4S.A bit slow but does well with the type of flying I do.I'd go with the two stroke 45 and see what happens.Turns more R's and will be a little faster.I'd question the 52 4S.It may work but may be a bit small for this plane due to the weight.
Put the engine at a 90 degrees (sideways).It works well that way and the muffler will be underneath.

If you want to try both engines try the one first that will take less cutting of the cowl.

I have numerous flights on this plane and really like it.Altho there was a lot of bad press the plane flys well.The only problem is that the covering does not like hot sun.It'll bubble everywhere if it sits in the hot sun.

Have fun
Walt

Hi guys,

I am just finishing my version of the same plane (the red one). I have put the Vmax 46 in it and have mounted sideways with a pitts muffler for the same reasons that have been stated above. I also replaced the supplied mounts with a single piece nylon one. The covering seems to bubble pretty easily but I have found that ironing the covering really helps to improve the situation, hopefully it will stand up to the Aussie sun!!

I have a couple of concerns that someone ,might be able to help with: Firstly the firewall has a gap of about 6mm to the body of the aircraft due to nuts that (according to the manual) should be in place, doesn't look real strong/solid to me. Did you guys keep this arrangement or do you have any idea why they want you to do it this way, is it as simple as just removing the nuts to mount a bit closer?

Secondly, I need a lot of weight in the front of the plane to get to the specified c of g, how did you guys find the suggested c of g, can I move it futher back, without adding lead my c of g is at 105mm (spec says 90-95mm)?

Regards,

Simon

PS. Great idea re the wing nuts, I am finding normal nuts really difficult to tighten up due to the positioning of the alum wing tube.

Seems like 10 mm would be a lot to move the CG,but I'm no expert in that field.I just add weight where needed.The 70 4S worked out well with the CG and didn't have to add any weight.

I guess you could take those nuts off that are between the firewall and fuse. I just figured they were there so you could undo them and slide the power pod out of the fuse,but you could do the same thing if the rear nuts were not there.Try it and see what happens.It's shouldn't make much difference actually.Just have to slide the cowl further onto the fuse.

Let us know what happens.
Walt

hi walt, the motor 52 xls i have is two strokes, thats why i think is enough strong, for that plane, but, i read too much bad about it, the motor, and i really trust the supertigre, i'll use the smaller, to cut the less possible, i'm actually flying an aviator 46, from global, and ultra stick, i hope can fly good the edge, thanks a lot, if any one wants to send me pictures of the edge i'll be glad. my mail [email protected].

Well guys my Edge went really well last weekend, hardly any trimming necessary and was as fast as a cut cat running the Vmax 46. I have changed the wing nut/bolt set up to a pair of 4mm eyebolts and a stiff spring to make it easier to get the wings on and off - much better. I also reinforced the location where the wing bolts are mounted with a little ply because the existing material seemed a bit flimsy.

CG is set at 92mm and seems ok for the moment.

This plane is good value for money.

Simon

Glad all is well in flite land..
Crasher/ I was thinking the 52 you were talking about was a 4S. It ought to fly the plane well. I'm just not into 4S's very much.They are good engines but I like the quicker stuff and I haven't found a fast four stroke yet so I stick to the two strokes if I want something to move fast. The Edge will be a bit different than the Avator but will be ok if your used to flying the Av and the stick. I haven't heard too much bad press with the other engine but you'd be safe going with the Tiger. My Tiger fell apart after a year and a half and don't know why but it's a good engine.

Simon/ Glad all went well. I read a lot of bad press about the VMAR stuff early on and glad I didn't listen.Guys said they broke in half on landing,the landing gear broke.All kinds of nite mares but I haven't had a problem yet and I've even cartwheeled it a couple of times. As I said before the covering is my main gripe and even if you ironed it back down (I did too) the hot Aussie sun will probably bring the bubbles back up unless your really lucky. It is a real value for $169.Even if it's a bad flier, it is $169 worth of pretty.
I've been concerned from the start about the wings coming off because of the flimsy bold that holds them on but it's ok so far. The black plastic gaskets that came with it I didn't use.The wings will move up and down maybe 3/16 of an inch but doesn't seem to affect it. One more thing I'll probably pay for dearly some day is that I'm able to leave the wings on for transportation to the field so hardly ever take the wings off to check the inside gear.I do that to all my planes and so far all has been well but you never know when one of those clevices or control horns are loosening up till it's too late.A big chance.

Glad to hear from yall...Keep us posted.
Walt

Glad all is well in flite land..
Crasher/ I was thinking the 52 you were talking about was a 4S. It ought to fly the plane well. I'm just not into 4S's very much.They are good engines but I like the quicker stuff and I haven't found a fast four stroke yet so I stick to the two strokes if I want something to move fast. The Edge will be a bit different than the Avator but will be ok if your used to flying the Av and the stick. I haven't heard too much bad press with the other engine but you'd be safe going with the Tiger. My Tiger fell apart after a year and a half and don't know why but it's a good engine.

Simon/ Glad all went well. I read a lot of bad press about the VMAR stuff early on and glad I didn't listen.Guys said they broke in half on landing,the landing gear broke.All kinds of nite mares but I haven't had a problem yet and I've even cartwheeled it a couple of times. As I said before the covering is my main gripe and even if you ironed it back down (I did too) the hot Aussie sun will probably bring the bubbles back up unless your really lucky. It is a real value for $169.Even if it's a bad flier, it is $169 worth of pretty.
I've been concerned from the start about the wings coming off because of the flimsy bold that holds them on but it's ok so far. The black plastic gaskets that came with it I didn't use.The wings will move up and down maybe 3/16 of an inch but doesn't seem to affect it. One more thing I'll probably pay for dearly some day is that I'm able to leave the wings on for transportation to the field so hardly ever take the wings off to check the inside gear.I do that to all my planes and so far all has been well but you never know when one of those clevices or control horns are loosening up till it's too late.A big chance.

Glad to hear from yall...Keep us posted.
Walt

I mounted an OS 70 on my Edge and it flys it fast enough for me. Had very little problem with Cg also since the weight of the 70 balanced it just right. Mounted it inverted so that I have no ugly motor head showing. Looks great in the air.

hi locolobot! what about the weight whit the 70? i heard than is a brick, anyway, how you feel the plane? how it flies? i'm just finishing mine this weekend, and i'll gona use the xls 52a, i just breaking it, and runs smooth and nice, and looks powerful, so.....good luck.
and for me.[&:]

Well crasher, I have had some good luck with the edge. I like the way it flies and is very smooth with me. I had some of my friends try it and they said it was tail heavy, even with the OS 70 4s. So I tried to re balance it to suit them as I am just learning the 3d stuff. Now It flies much smoother since I balanced it to 2 1/2 inches. However it is not as crisp in the 3d department. Guess the tail heavy bit is a trade off there. Hope yours is flying as good as mine.

hi again! i just finished my edge, looks great, itĀ“s the red one, but i put the motor like the manual says , cuase the muffler donĀ“t fit , and i have not a pitts one, and here where i live is not a store, so... well, anyway looks fine, anybody knows how can to put a picture here, to show you mine? and i would like to see yours, or video, wherever, sorry about mi bad english, but i do my best, hope your help, tanx[&:]

R/C
See if you can get a pix on here.I'd like to see what the red one looks like.I may get another.I have the green one,looks ok but would like to see the real thing in other colors.

Went out this morning and put four or five flights on it.It was sunny and in the sixties for temperature...Yep,the covering let go and bubbles everywhere,but it still flew nicely.

Good luck
Walt

hi walt, i went this morning, to fly, but just the aviator, i feel so afraid cause i never did whit some like the edge, i have a tiger 2 low wing, and flyes like a dream, but iĀ“ll need someone better than me for the first fligth and trimming of the edge, i took some pics of my planes, but canĀ“t find the way to put them here, can you tell me how ? really looks great, and no bubbles yet, it would be my 8 or 9th plane, but the most aerobatic it was the av, maybe tomorrow, morning, see ya and tanks
p.d i'm traying to put the pics rigth now.[img][/img]

I tried to respond to your message and put a pix but when I clik on "Upload Image" nothing happens,so I don't really know what the problem is.

The Edge shouldn't be a lot different than your Tiger 2.Maybe a little slower.I don't know what engine you have on the Tiger.A guy had the Tiger at the field this morning and it sure was a good flier.He has a four stroke in it.I think bout a 52.

Where in Mexico is the town you live in??What is the nearest big city?? I've been to Mexico City and Acapulco a few years back.Also went to some very small town way up in the mountains a few hours drive out of Mexico City.Got sick as a dog. I went with my X sister-n-law who was dating a guy from Mexico City that was the owner of a travel magazine.Instead of charging people money for ads in his magazine he took all the ads out in trade so we didn't have to pay for anything.Eats,clothing and everything else was covered.Lot of fun.
Well good luck on the pix..I'll do some more checking and see if I can come up with something.
Later Walt

Hi again walt, iĀ“m living in sinaloa, the biggest city near to me is culiacan, but no rc stores there, just one, but have nothing, so i must to wait to go to el paso texas, to buy mi things. So you know mexico, is big, but dirty and dangerous, i donĀ“t like to go there, i use to live in chihuahua, thats texas neighbord, and my wife and sons are there, but my job (pilot of cessna 206 and 210) its here in the mountains, like a taxi cab, but in a cessna, so i must to stay here some times at year.
Acapulco is beautifull.. and if was free !better!!! iĀ“ll tray tomorrow to fly the edge, my tiger 2 goldberg had a supertiger gs 45, powerfull, but i donĀ“t feel it like aerobatic, do nice loops, rolls great, middle knife, inverted fligth is easy, and slow fligth, seems to me hardest to fly the aviator, iĀ“ll tray to put the pictures of my planes in a geocities page to show them to you, or ask in the pix forum, too many guys put them pix there, well too long my letter, tanks a lot , and good flight day tomorrow.

i did it, i did it walt !!!!!
late
omar.

GREAT JOB!!
Nice lookin hanger guy...I'm interested in the plane by JR that says Propo on the side..Is the plane made by JR and called a Propo.I'd like to have one of those. Where did you order it from.Don't think I've seen that one.

I still don't know what's going on. I tried to reply to your private message but it wouildn't go.Aggravating!!!!

Again,nice lookin' hanger.

Let me know what plane that Propo is.

Later Walt

Great job on the pix too.Maybe I can figure out how to do it...

hi walt, to get up a pic, you must go to your last message, then in the down right, click EDIT, and appears your message to correct it, and a lane than says UPLOAD and the next is easy, now, tanks for your words, it was really quick and easy do the edge, the other one it says jr propo is a global kits, aviator 40'46,and the jr and propo sticks are fron the radios, i use only jr radios after some accidents whit airtronics, you can check the plane here.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/product_gu...fm?kit_id=1207
the others are my stick and my goldberg tiger2
i hope can see your pics
see ya
omar
here is the aviator again

Hi Omar,
Just wondering how your edge 540 is going now after a few flights. Any comments?

Hi Omar,
Just wondering how your edge 540 is going now after a few flights. Any comments?