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Old 07-12-2007 | 01:21 AM
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Tim Thank you LOL....the battery and everything was already installed where it is now...and the FASSST reciever is the micro 2.4 ghz reciever...much smaller that a standard reciever. Weighs like 10 grams vs roughly 22 grams for a standard.
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Cody,

You should be happy with your prop change. I have found a 12.25x3.75 to be the best prop for the evolution .46. Your OS should have more power, so I would think a 12.25x3.75 APC would work very well. Repairs look good.

Jody,

I have to think with a PNP that the CG should be set up towards the front of the range for you. I would definitely check it however. If nothing else, just do a quick finger balance check and make sure the plane is inverted when you do it. I would stat at about 4.5” for CG, and move it back after you figure out all it’s characteristics.

Wizzbang,

To the best of my recollection, this is what I do for an inverted flat spin.

Take it up nice and high and and kill the throttle with full down elevator (right stick all the way up), and full left rudder (left stick to the left). This will put it into a spin. I then add left aileron (maybe 1/3) and this helps flatten it out. I then add throttle (roughly ½ on an O.S. .61) this slows the decent to next to nothing. You can actually make it ascend with enough throttle.

Play with the amount of rudder and aileron until you get it to spin nice and flat and slow. I will dedicate a whole flight to flat spins. Just keep doing them over and over till I run out of fuel. A couple of flight dedicate to them, and you will have it down.
Old 07-12-2007 | 07:41 AM
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Wizzbang,

The way I learned to go into a flat spin upright was to bring her up high
Chop the throttle
and apply Left rudder slightly and slight up elevator to start the spin
then I add right aileron slowly until its at full the same with the rudder only left,
then added more elevator to the decent I was looking to have, she spins forever everytime. I'm balanced around 4.75

I say slowly on the sticks but its actually just a nice smooth transition for all sticks until all throws are at full, it happens pretty quickly.

Inverted is the same thing only down elevator imputs, Now I can just pretty much flat spin anytime without having to go to the high climb, once you feel how she locks in, you'll have no problems.

Lawdawg The only way to know the balance is to balance her, I don't have a PNP, or that motor so I wouldn't really know, If you don't have a balancing device, just take the ol fingers on the wings center spar close to the fuse and see how she feels, you should be able to tell if its nose or tail heavy, you can also tell by how it lands and performs, If you have great control and she settles in for a landing real nice all the time your probably nose heavy, (not a bad thing) but if she is real snappy in the sky and seems to want to jump in the air when your trying to land,, Its probably perfect for 3D. If your coming in for a landing bleeding off speed and the tail just drops straight down and falls from the sky then crumbles your toy to particals, it may be a little too tail heavy. [&o]

Cody,, Awesome Job !! You get a 5 out of 5 Waldo Smiles for rebuilding and gluing. and it looks fantastic.

Pit-viper When ever possible I try never to add weights to any model, I will cut out compartments and move batteries receivers or whatever before I throw extra weight in the plane, But sometimes you have no choice. I added a mini bottle of Budweizer once to the nose of a Kadet, God I was praying not to crash that day, I wouldn't have wanted to be brought up on alcholol abuse charges. And I can hold a pretty good hover balanced at 4.75 although I wish I could get my CG around 5.00 but that would require me adding weight, or cutting a compartment even furthur back then I already did, but I'm very happy with the performance I'm getting. Now I just need 25,000 more hours of practice. Which I'm most willing to apply.

Hey all you other T_ _ _ T buddies Its been a little while I've been very busy, But I still have flown Every single Saturday Rain or shine since we started this season except 1 because we had to play a gig early one afternoon on Saturday.

I'm still trying to get someone to film my T_ _ _ T flight so I can post it, Maybe this weekend, I have lots of T_ _ _ T footage but its all bits and pieces I'm trying to get it all into 1 movie
or have someone just film the whole flight, Unfortuneatly 1 mini flight is about 600 MGB with my camera, you tube only allows 100 per flick, so I'm working on keeping quality and getting more time out of it, I lower the pixels but then all the quality is crap, My camera takes the movies in .MOV format, I think I need to get something that records in .AVI

I'll figure it out, Meanwhile,, Lets see some of EVERYBODYS flights COME ON !!!! [>:]
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ORIGINAL: WizzBang

Viper - I have a Twist 40 with a Magnum 46, battery is under the fuel tank, and no added wieght. You should be ok without the lead in front. I'd imagine that the .52 is a bit heavier. How's it for performance? I love the 46 but it takes awhile to crank up RPM with a big prop.
It seems to do ok. Need to get a different prop I think though. It has an APC11x6 on it now and I was thinking more along the lines of 12x4. It won't quite hover as it is. I was given some fuel that is only like 12.5% nitro and I'm at almost 6000'. Thinking that 15-20% may be better. I usually run 30% coolpower in all my other nitro motors but not sure about Mangnums, they recommend castor and I usually stay away from it if at all possible. Gotta say though that the motor is snappy, and it runs better after each tank as it was still new when I got it.


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Old 07-12-2007 | 11:11 PM
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Wl the pnp t___t took it maden today...not by me mind you since I am still flying the trainer but I had to see first hand how she flew...she was great....let my two buddies fly her and she handled like a dream....when coming in for the landing she was going so slow it was amazing it didnt nose dive...it was great was with the evo 46 and a MAS 11x6 wondering if the APC 13x6 is too much for this engine...
Old 07-12-2007 | 11:29 PM
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One of my PnP's has the Evo .46 and uses the APC 12.25x3.75, and in the hands of a world champ was tail tapping the runway in a hover, then pulled out vertical quite well . . .
Just my $.02
Old 07-13-2007 | 12:41 AM
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Hi all! Today is the two week mark since I placed the order. The ultracote (ordered at the same time) showed up yesterday so I am keeping my fingers crossed for a delivery today. It would be nice to get the orders from tower also but they usually take closer to three weeks to get here. I can't wait to get it built so I can be scared to maiden it.
Old 07-13-2007 | 05:44 AM
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Me again.

Yippee!! YAY!! WOOHOO!! The mail dude just dropped a big ole box off for me and guess what's inside.........That's right. A brand new T---T!! Everything showed up in good condition even tho the box was a little damaged. One box from tower also came in today with the 61FX and some odds and ends. I'm ready to go home and get started.

Get ready, questions will be forthcoming.
Old 07-13-2007 | 07:03 AM
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EXCELLENT BENDR !!!

Theres nothing like a fresh T_ _ _ T, God,, I'm a little Jealous now.. [sm=punching.gif]
Old 07-13-2007 | 10:39 AM
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Twisters,

Preparing to get my first Twist together. I have an extra 46AX but would like to go with a 4 stroke. Without having to read this enormous thread, can anyone tell me the best size 4 stroker? And, is there an inexpensive brand with a good reputation? Otherwise, I'll go with OS. Appreciate any thoughts.
Old 07-13-2007 | 11:42 AM
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I have a .40 size T...T with a FS-70 surpass II - can take off grass in the length of a picnic table and have unlimited vertical.
Old 07-13-2007 | 01:27 PM
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Hey guys,
I have been reading this thread for some time now and just joined the T_ _ _ _t Army!!!!
I ordered a T____t 40 ARF, a Futaba 6EXAS Computer Radio and a GMS .47 engine.
I am hoping it gets here by the end of next week.

Mark
Old 07-13-2007 | 01:53 PM
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That sounds good Mark. Welcome to the Twist thread. We'll be looking forward to hearing about the assembly and maiden. Be sure and do a dry run on the " U" shaped elevator joiner before gluing it all together. Hanger 9 might have fixed that problem, but the joiner used to take a little tweaking sometime to get the halves to line up.
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Welcome Mark, Nitro Dew, you are about to enter the world of ______------_____---- well I'll let you decide what you like best about it all.

Great bunch here

I'm using the FS 70 Surpass II,,,, I hear the Saito 72 is pretty nice too. for the 4 stroke line
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Yes, welcome also Nitro Dew. I've read good things here about the Magnum .70 for a less expensive four stroke. I've never regretted buying good engines or good tools. (Unless maybe I smack a new engine into the hard pan so mightily that it's splattered into a brazillion pieces.)
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Thanks for the info,
I imagine that there will be lots of questions that need to be answered. I have never done anything like building a plane (even though it is a ARF) before so this will be quite an adventure.

Mark
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Saito FA on PnP #2. hand launch if you dare. Better yet, get a buddy to hold it vertically, and just run the throttle to full blast and tell him to let go. . . . it's SICK power for a .40 sized plane. . .going straight up[sm=wink_smile.gif]
Old 07-13-2007 | 09:08 PM
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I have a question that I have not found the answer for on here yet.
Why does everyone type T_ _ _ t this way ????

Mark
Old 07-13-2007 | 09:58 PM
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Thanks guys, I'll keep you informed!
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Ya Know - It's hard to get anything that flys this well and you can just go out and let it all loose. From the sounds of it maybe I'm not hanging it out as far as a lot of you since I'm still flying my 2 original T_ _ _T's. I have had two mend the middle of each ones fuselage however, but they are strong enough now that if they break I might as well order a new one. OS46 (soon to be an OS 51 however) in the little one and OS 61 in the 60. On full throws for the servo's and high rates you can't count fast enough to keep up with the spins - just a blur of color [8D]

I haven’t read a solution to this problem, but what I’d like to do is figure out how to mount things so the exhaust doesn’t blow cr@p all over the right wing every flight!
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Old 07-14-2007 | 12:33 AM
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I can't remember the exact details (since it was last explained by the person who started doing it long ago), but it has to do with a protest over a problem one member had with his newly arived kit. He couldn't get any satisfaction from either Horizon Hobbies or hangar 9, so in rebelion, stated that he'd never mention the name of the plane on the original thread. once it got going, EVERYONE was then doing the T_ _ _ T spelling, even including myself. The person Loved his planes, and continued to post and help us newcomers to the longest thread in the entire forum. I've seen people come and go, but the reverance to the spelling just seems (out of respect) to continue to this day. If there;s anyone with better details, I'm sure that they'll chime in. .. ... ....
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Naswifty you explained that very well, that is the reason we all spell out T_ _ _ T the way we do, and like you said, we all love this plane, but out of respect for our fellow comrad we have joined him in the rebellion, of friend of mine had to deal with Horizon and had a very good experience using them, so maybe they are getting better but that doesn't change what happened to our good friend here.

GPutt Turn your exhaust so it points up between the wing and the fuse and it will minimize the amount of fuel on the plane, but to get it away you could run a tube off the muffler and run it down the fuse to the bottom and then back towards the rear of the plane, they make muffler extension tubes with an angle on them for just such a thing too.

its flying day so I'm OUTTA HERE , Time to T_ _ _ T, I will post some pics and hopefully a movie later today or tomorrow.
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Ok guys...I'm back in bussiness!!I maidened my brane new T _ _ _ T this last Friday!!..I forgot that feeling...heart is pounding....knees are twitching...sweat over my back....ya'll remember that feeling.
I gave my old T _ _ _ T to one of my friends, and decided to build a brand new one....
O.S 61FX, HiTec karbonite servo's, Hydrimax 1650 MaH 6V battery...CG at 4.75.
Well..I took her up and my gosh...she was twitchy as heck...[:@]I took her up high enough and decided to take her down immediately. Placed a little weight in right behind the fuel tank....little more expo......tamed down the ailerons....and now she flies like a dream!!! Obviously...the 61FX provides super duper power....
So..I was happy I had the guts to do the maiden...after I crashed the T _ _ _ T 60 during the maiden, I was hesitant to take this one up, but...I did...
So...I have my second T _ _ _ T 40-size....brand new...flying like a DREAM!!!

Hopefully I can maiden the T _ _ _ T 60 size next week...if I don't have to work to much overtime that is...
Old 07-14-2007 | 11:18 PM
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Mark....nice to mee you brother.....*HIGH FIVE*..you and I are using the exact same radio..Futaba 6EXAS...trust me...you will LOVE IT!!...I do not know what your experience is with building ARF's....but if you want some tips and tricks, let us know and we will assist you building your baby!!...We all were rookies at one time..(and although I own 4 planes, I still consider myself a rookie..) and learned from the PRO's and each other here....we all be more than willing to be of your assist helping you building our baby...but your effort will pay off when you have her maidened......It is the most exiting plane I have flown so far...
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GPUTT33.....did you try a exaust deflector??..They sure make a bit of a difference though!!..Tower has em...I fly with deflectors on my exausts...and sure like em....you will still get some residue on your wing, but heck..you need to wipe down the wings after flying anyway correct??Good luck!!..


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