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Old 08-22-2007 | 07:25 PM
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Don't get it,

Does everybody own the 40 and 60 size Twist and the 150 is left on the shelves. I started a thread this morning and I still haven't gotten any replies.[] I just was hoping to discuss the 150 without barging in on this thread.

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Don't get it,

Does everybody own the 40 and 60 size Twist and the 150 is left on the shelves. I started a thread this morning and I still haven't gotten any replies.[] I just was hoping to discuss the 150 without barging in on this thread.

Gibbs

"Don't get it"? Are you talking to me? Don't get what? I don't think there a lot of 150 out there.
Old 08-22-2007 | 08:16 PM
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Actually, I'm holding out for the 33% T___T and I'll put a DA50cc [sm=shades_smile.gif]on it.
Now how SICK would that be?[sm=lol.gif]
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I think what NCIS don't get is why nobody will reply on a Twist 1.50 thread he started. I bet the 1.50 is slow to sell because of the cost involved setting up a plane that big. I have a giant scale PT-19 that cost what was to me a pile of money to get in the air. Those big servos cost a bunch. I've got as much invested in the fabric style covering as my Twist ARF cost. The PT-19 is OK to fly, but I would rather have something a little more aerobatic.
Old 08-22-2007 | 09:52 PM
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Actually, I'm holding out for the 33% T___T and I'll put a DA50cc [sm=shades_smile.gif]on it.
Now how SICK would that be?[sm=lol.gif]
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Yea a gasser would be cool a TVV!$T this size with a 20 X 10 Zinger prop on it yea. i have a 45 cc gasser on this plane but it would be cool on the TVV!$T. Eventually they will have one if they have a 150 already they will get bigger. think i will wait for the 33% too.
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Old 08-23-2007 | 05:36 AM
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Would a SuperTigre G2300 work well in a 1.50 ? Those Saito 1.80s are spendy.
Old 08-23-2007 | 06:11 AM
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moondoggie.........I put a ST G2300 in the .60-size U-Can-Do and it still didn't have the umphf (or power to weight ratio) of any of the T_ _ _ T combinations I'm currently flying. I agree, Saitos are spendy..........and are they really worth the money, when Magnum and OS put out great engines costing considerable less? I suppose,............ money......... is like cow schwitt..........you have to spread it around to do any good, right? Anyway.........where would we be as a nation if everyone only spent what they truly could afford?

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Old 08-23-2007 | 06:42 AM
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Tx, Down , I have one setting on the self. Thats dissapointing to hear., maybe the GS2300 will work in something else.
I have 4 Saitos right now , and love them , but would probably try a gasser on the !.50 .
My .40 T____T with the Saito .72 is alot of fun , but I have a lot of trouble with orintation with it , mainly looking at it from the side.
To bad the GS2300 wont pull the .60 well. Do you think it`s because the T___T needs the tourqe of the 4 stroke? Man , you would think a 1.40 size 2c , would pull the firewall off. lol
Old 08-23-2007 | 07:24 AM
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Moondoggie I have the G2300 Also, I am Currently using it in an Ultra Sport 1000 which takes a 1.20, it took a little breaking in to get it running right, I would have rather bought the OS 1.60 But I just couldn't get that much money saved for it, something would always come up and I'd have to spend some of the cash or all of it and start all over again, but man that thing moves the US 1000 like a rocket ship, Unlimited vertical, It is of course a pattern plane and all home built, I haven't weighed it yet, So I don't know what it would do in a 3D ship.

NCIS T_ _ _ T 40 / 60 / 150 We take em all here... I've started other threads on questions about other planes and the people who have responded or helped me the most came right from this thread, even on the other threads, I don't even think of this thread as a T_ _ _ T only thread anymore, All I know is this thread has the greatest people with any piece of information you can think of,,, Its seems like just a waste of time almost to go anywhere else. I've learned,, from now on I start my questions here, then I ask elsewhere If I need to.

All I can say is "thanks" to all the folks here for all their imput and advice, you are all the best and greatest people in the world No BS
Old 08-23-2007 | 08:09 AM
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Waldo , The US 1000 is my next build this winter. Was going to do a .60 , but had the chance to see both , and liked the size of the US 1000 . Now I have a home for the GS2300.
I agree , I think you either love the T___t or hate it. I`m on my third one , in 3 months. I take 3 or 4 planes with me when I go to the feild and if one of them gets smucked , it`s the T___T . Yup I love it ,hate it. But have used this thead a bunch , and got a lot of good help. Lot of good peoplle sharing the same addiction I mean , hobby

Reinforced the fuse on the 3rd one , and have had better luck. Also switch from a 14x4w to a 13x7 . The extra air flow seems to smooth it out some . Still learning .
Old 08-23-2007 | 01:15 PM
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Experience with ST GS2300 has me concluding that it's a great engine for the money, but it just doesn't have the snort when you need it (slow trottle response). When you're rubbing the rudder of one of these larger birds in the dirt, you need that instantaneous response in case of a sudden downdraft......the 2300 just didn't have it. ( I like my planes to react to throttle input as if they were turbocharged, supercharged, nitrous injected, sucking pure oxygen and borderline meltdown with regards to RPMs!) I should mention that I had an additional tank with 14oz of smudgeoil for the smoker, an extra battery, the smoke system itself, as well as the smoke coil in the muffler, but the plane still should have been an animal with all that power. The OS "F" plug is recommended for the ST GS2300 by the way. A DA50 sounds just about right for your needs.

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Thank you,

Now I at least know what the problem is with why the 150 isn't very popular. I got it because my eye sight isn't what it once was and when I crashed my 60 I didn't know it was inverted and back on the stick I went and you all know what the rest of that story is. I like big planes so I can see them when they are at weird angles. Cost got my butt chewed by the Wife but that only lasted one day. Now she prays the weather would get nice enough for me to get out from under her feet and go flying. She says I'm much easier to get along with if I can fly three or four times a week.

Thanks for the explanations,

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I agree 100% Downt,, It does havce a sluggish start to the rev up, I just thought it was because I haven't tuned in my low idle yet, plus like I said, its a pattern ship I just floor it an go basically, I'll have to do some further tests, and Yes It absolutly needs immediate response for 3D and low low earth sweeping hovers, I was told to use a Perry Carb on the thing and that would solve most problems, but I haven't done that yet, I believe it should fly fine out o=f the box or its not worth anything, I will only By OS from here on out, I thought I'd save a few bucks this time and try a new product,, [&o] I wasn't really happy,,, [:-][&o] But the motor is working okay now, it just took some doing,,, I still would have rather had the OS 1.60 instead. I like the sounds of the DA50 though
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Rain, Rain, and more Rain,

Why is it after you crash and get a new plane ready to fly all it can seem to do is rain? I want to Maiden my 150 and can't because for some reason we are having a Monsoon season here in Wisconsin. At least the Souteast area. Please God let it quit raining and let us see the SUN. It will take 2 to 3 days just for the field to soak up all the standing water. Maybe I should do like the other Guy and put floats on mine.[&o]

I am depressed,

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Old 08-24-2007 | 06:37 PM
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NCIS

Move to california, then you will be wanting it to rain hasn't rained were i live in over 6 months. I'm tired of watrering my lawn. If you lived here you could fly that plane everyday its alittle windy here but thats about it. I havent flown mine since the maiden flight Cause its so hot out there were i goto fly you have to get up early in the morning and do it after 9 am it almost a 100 degrees even the wind is hot.

Doesnt matter were you live there are always going to be conditions that Can ruin a good flying day. I'm just to learn to get up with the sun and go Fly my TVV!$T, lately i have been looking around the thrift stores and dollar store for a Character to fly my plane(Pilot). I guess i could goto Kmart and goto the toy section and find something hate to Do it though Considering its probably going to meet the saw anyway[sm=confused_smile.gif]

But Hope the rain stops so you can go fly. Tell the rain gods to send the rain to California so i wont have to water my lawn for awhile[sm=drowning.gif]
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Im geting ready to buy/order a Twist 3D, I just don't know if i want the 40 or 60 version. I have a Saito 91 motor and i would like to use that. I think it will be to small for the 60 version because i want to try 3D stuff. but i think the 40size would be to small for the motor. Has anyone put a Saito 91 in a Twist 40? please give me any help you can.
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humanvr4,

I think the Saito .91 would be fine in the 60 size. It is at the low end of the four stroke engine recommendations but with the proper prop it should be plenty of power. Unless you want to hover which the Twist doesn't do well from what I'm told. It should do some pretty good vertical climbs and most everything else you want to do anyway. Most 3D manuevers are not done full throttle anyway. I just started 3D and I had a Twist 60 for about a month before I hit the turf. I flew mine around almost at half throttle all the time. Now I have a Twist 150 with a Saito 1.50 in it and that is not the highest engine on the chart either. Now I'm just waiting for the field to dry up after our monsoon here in WI.

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linkadrip,

I wish God would send the rain to you. My Sister-in-Law lives in San Fran and she can't afford her water bill. My wife said to come out here and take out about 200 gallons of water from our pool. That thing is overflowing. Anyway I'm happy the hot days are leaving and once things dry out it will be nice flying on calm 75 degree days.

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linkadrip,

I wish God would send the rain to you. My Sister-in-Law lives in San Fran and she can't afford her water bill. My wife said to come out here and take out about 200 gallons of water from our pool. That thing is overflowing. Anyway I'm happy the hot days are leaving and once things dry out it will be nice flying on calm 75 degree days.

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Sounds great 75 degrees days that is, i want to hear how that 150 flys i have been looking at them and there pretty big if i didnt have so many planes already i would probably go for one. Have to wait till a Crash happens Hopefully it wont but ya never know. Then maybe i will get a 150 and become a part of that Club.

Flew my T____T again and it has a tendency to want to dive all the time had to trim the elevator to get it to fly Level just wondering if my CG being at 4" from the leading edge of the wing is to far foward. Seems to take off just fine and land just fine. And is very manuverable to me of course after flying a SUperstar 60 for a year. I guess anything would be more manuverable. I actually get scared when flying the T____T. I went straight up with it and throttled back and it started to fall like it was in a flat spin i paniced a little gave a little gas and it pulled right out of it. But i have to give it up elevator to get it to fly level at half throttle i trimmed it a little and it seemd to help but just wondering if the CG should be back some. Book says 4 to 5 inches from LE.

Definetly gonna have to get a C.G. Machine
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thanks for helping me out. So i guess that means the saito 91 is to big for the 40size?
Old 08-25-2007 | 06:18 PM
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humanvr4, there have been several folks in this long thread who have put .91 four strokes in their Twists. I remember asking one to report back after the maiden, but I don't think he ever posted again. You might try a search using the box at the bottom of Part I of this thread. I believe both of the .91's I remember were Magnums which are heavier than your Saito. I don't see a problem myself. I once watched a young pilot flying a Pizazz ( father of the Twist and very similar in weight and size) with a Saito .91. The Saito hauled the Pizazz around very well.
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I run a Saito .72 and had to add some nose wieght ,You should be fine, as long as you remember , your left thumb has lots of go juice.
Old 08-25-2007 | 10:52 PM
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I had a magnum .91 four stroke in my 40 size with an apc 14x4w. clearance was good if grass is short. I mounted the engine as close to the firewall as I could and added 1.5 oz to the tail. Awesome combination at 4700 feet. it would be killer in OK. I now have the .91 in a 60 twist. The 60 came in 14oz heavier than the 40 but I still have good power.
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so which did you like the best, the magnum 91 in the 40Twist or in the 60Twist? I want to try some 3D moves so which one should I get, 40 or 60? with a Satio 91 one 4 stroke in it. also thanks for all the help
Old 08-26-2007 | 11:40 AM
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I've got a 150 twist. Just had it's madien flight a few days ago. I've got a saito 180 in it and jr sport126 mg servos in it. It is my first arf and my first one on a DX-7. It only needs about 7 feet of runway to take off. I'm new to the hobby and I thought this thing was insane. Sorry if the pics don't come out right. They've been uploading wierd lately.
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