Man this thing looks nice. Check it out yourself, looks like a possible Gasser. Daz...
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...Q=1&I=GPMA1305

Yeah it does look pretty darn good! Did you notice the three month wait...... :cry:
Dave

Yea, I noticed 3 month wait, I just wanted everyone to see they are at least on Tower's site now. Daz...

After reading the spec's it seems large enough for gas. I was wanting to try gas anyway. I have spent enough on glow fuel for my os 160 that I could have bought a few more arf's. Lets just hope it comes sooner than late jun.
Dave

The specs say up to a 36cc 2 stroke, sounds like a Zenoah G-38 to me!
I have been waiting to see this one.........

G-38???I'm thinking Brison 3.2!!!!Or at the very least 2.4.I've got a2.4 on a Lanier Edge and it does fine,it appears that the Extra will be larger that.Can't wait to get my hands on one.

I have always been hung up on Zenoah, I guess I should move up and come play with the big dogs.....

That's a really nice looking Extra. As a point of comparison, it is a very similar size to the Dave Patrick 330L. The wing span is the same, but it has about 70 sq ins less wing area and is a couple of inches shorter. The published weight range is 14 - 16 lbs. If this is accurate then the wing loading will be ok, but nothing to write home about. If it is optimistic like every ARF I've ever built, it is going to be very heavy. If they're talking 16 lbs with the high end of the recommended engine weight, then you can expect around 16.5 to 17lbs for that Brison 3.2, and a pound more for the G38. Both are very heavy for this wing area.

It will be interesting to see what the reality is.

hey big dog you see this? better order your's today!

I think a ZDZ 40 would be perfectumoondo!! Daz...

Looks like a real ARF-War spooling up between GP and Horizon!!! Good for US !!!

And roj on the ZDZ .... this will be a killer combo...can't wait!

Don't rule out a BME 44. Strong engine and very light. Mine is only 3lbs. 2oz with a J&A Pitts style muff. My Extra has unlimited virticle with a 20x8.

Hi jemilheis,

>>Don't rule out a BME 44. Strong engine and very light. Mine is only 3lbs. 2oz with a J&A Pitts style muff.

BME 44s are excellent motors(I've had two), but as with any motor, make sure you're comparing apples to apples when you're comparing weights. As an example, ZDZs, FPEs, Taurus' and Brisons all come with engine mounts, so their bare weights include the mounts and the BME doesn't. The weight of the Hanger 9 mount used typically on this motor is 5.75 oz, so you're now up to 3lbs 7.75 oz + 4oz for the CH ignition and you're at 3lbs 11.75. That's actually an ounce lighter than what my BME's weighed. As this size engine goes, that is still light....relatively(only the FPE is lighter) The other motors mentioned above (including 50's) are only 2-5oz more(add another 3oz or so for the battery if you're comparing against a glow motor).

My only point is when you're deciding on which engine to put in this plane, make sure you're figuring the complete weight and not a manufacturer's bare weight, which can easily be 1lb lighter than the total package.

I have wanted one for a while, but 429 bucks, OUCH, The world models 80" extra will be out at about the same time and it looks almost exactly the same except for a few decals

Smallfly, sometimes your local hobby shop can be up to 50 dollars cheaper than what Tower shows as the 1st initial price. I think my LHS will probably sell it for around 399.00, not much cheaper but a little. How much is the World models 80 incher? Daz...

see http://www.theworldmodels.com/extra300s.htm
They dont have a price posted yet, but I'll bet it's not as expensive and their quality is usually good. I hope to see them at toledo next month

I wouldn't count on the World Model's 80" Extra being cheaper since their 70" version is $390.

I went and looked at the world models extra and the P-51 color scheme looks.........well.........stupid. :stupid: Go see for yourself.
http://www.theworldmodels.com/extra300s.htm


Dave

I agree BUT different strokes for different folks

I must me missing something,what looks stupid?The Extra looks just like the GP kit.

Both schemes are identical Wagstaff schemes. I happen to like it, but that's definitely a personal thing. My choice between the two would be neither. If you like the color scheme, buy the Dave Patrick Extra in the ARC version and cover it the way you want it(If you don't want to cover and don't like the DP Yellow then I guess you'll have to get one of these). There's a guy on RCU that has done this and duplicated this color scheme perfectly.

IMHO, if you just want an Extra in this size, buy the Dave Patrick Extra. Dave Patrick is one of the most accomplished model aircraft designers in the industry with a long proven track record of producing great flying planes. You have no idea what you're getting with these two kits. With all the talk of how heavy the DP Extra is, from the published specs of these two new kits, it appears the DP Extra will be the lightest(based on real weights of the DP comparing against published weights of the others-they'll probably end up heavier), and has the largest wing area. If all three were available when I bought my DP, it would still be a no brainer for me, DP all the way....except you'll have to accept the small company thing with on and off again customer service.

I wont say the P51 scheme looks stupid, but it doesnt seem right to have a Extra 300 P51. Actually it looks pretyy good. Daz...

I guess I didn't look hard enough,I didn't realize that the P-51 scheme was actually on the Extra,I just glanced and assumed it was a P-51,Guess I should pay more attention,I just looked at the small pics.IMO the red is much better looking.

OK OK

The p51 scheme looks different NOT stupid......Dave

>>I guess I didn't look hard enough

Oops. I missed it too. I actually don't think it looks bad, but it seems pretty silly...unless there is a "real" Extra this is copying, which I doubt.