Cap 232 from Kyosho is one of my favorite planes....I have an OS 70FS II in mine which is awesome!

Of all the ARFs I've had this has been the best built. It will take a lot of punishment. After flying it for a while I put servos in the tail. It has a tendency to tip stall, I always used flaperons. Mine had an Enya 90 4C up front.

I have the ailerons on two channels as well. What do you recommend for flap settings?

The airplanes built and ready for engine break-in and maiden. Any tips on the maiden would be appreciated!

I've got the battery and the receiver behind the firewall on top of the tank and had to add 2.5 ounces to the nose to get the CG at 3 3/16 in. behind the LE. I set the rates as per the addendum (high/low) and put in about 20% expo. I plan on some high speed taxi runs just fast enough to get the tail up in order to wring out any obvious bad behavior prior to attempting flight.

Have fun and relax!! I have the Yellow Aircraft version of that plane with a Saito 91 and it flies great!! I HAD the Kyosho 60 cap with a Saito 120 in it and to this day IT was my most enjoyable plane to date. No bad tendency's at all.

My only suggestions to you would be to land with some power. Don't try the usual glide in on decent approach. Not that it's a problem by any means..... but just that it will land better and smooth.

Also, if your flying off grass with the wheel pants be cautious of the plane tipping over. Esp on the landing you may want to give a little up elevator to keep the tail down after ya land.

I hate when everything goes right to end up tipping over because of the wheel pants and breaking the top of the rudder

Blackdog

Yup, it tips alright! :stupid: I don't have the wheel pants on, but I'm sure the tires are too small for our grass field. (1.5"). Didn't fly, just engine break in and taxi, and by then it was dark.

Other than the swan dive, ground handling was good. The OS 46FX started on the first or second flip and ran strong through three tanks.

Saturday or Sunday, I'll let her loose....the club ace should be around too, so maybe I'll let him trim it up for me, on the other hand, if someone's going to crash it, it should be me.

Do you guys think I need to drill a hole under the existing air inlet for the carb?

I have the kyosho cap 232 .46 ARF. Do you have to sand the servo mounting plate down to fit inside the cutout in the wing. please reply, I need help. what a pain if so.

Yes, sadly, you do have to cut and sand it. Make sure you get the hieght right. Too low and you wont be able to attach the servo rods, too high and the covers will not fit.

The servo covers are more trouble than they're worth. You can't see um on the ground or in the air. So fly without them first and if you feel compelled to have them make the mods then. in my humble opinion

Thanx guys, I'm new to this web site and R/C in general. I have loved planes since I was about 5 and 10 years later i'm still going strong. I acquired this cap from a guy I know who didn't have time to "build" it. I think he just wanted to start me flying. People think i'll crash my new plane but I beg to differ. I have at least 150 hours on realflight G2. (I'm hooked). I've got inverted flying, basic and intermediate aerobatics and some advanced,etc. How different is the game from real life with the great planes .40 on the simulater and the kyosho cap w/ all the same engines and control surface movements. please reply and thanx for the tip about the servo mount.

P.S. I'm waiting for my Futaba 6YG from tower hobbies. It's on backorder for 2-4 weeks. What a bummer!!!

I have g2 and the kyosho cap as well...
The main differences in basic flight characteristics are when flying in wind. My Cap is MUCH harder to fly in windy conditions than in G2. Other than that, my Cap is also more aerobatic and 3D capable than in G2.

Regards,
Philip

I am just getting ready to put the engine (O.S. 50 SX) on my 40 size Kyosho Cap. The "Supplementary Instructions" call for moving the centerline down 3/16" and adding 2 #6 washers to the lower mount rail yielding 2 degrees of upward thrust.

Has anyone flown with the upward thrust? Is this to keep it from pulling to the belly on verticals?

Any recommendations?

Also, I was planing on using a Dubro pull-pull rudder kit. Anyone tried this?

Thanks,

-Michael

Just thought I'd chime in...

I just returned from flying my Cap (3rd time to the field with it). Today the wind was dead calm, so I really got to put the plane through the ringer. As you can see from my previous post, I wasn't too thrilled with its windy weather performance...

My first plane(this is my 2nd) was an Avistar and I was very happy with its aerobatic capabilities for a high-wing. But this plane is an absolute monster! With that big ASP .91 4s and a Master Airscrew 14x6(best prop so far) it will waterfall and blender like nobodies business! Seriously, I didn't think it would do it, neither did the guys at the field. But, I tried anyway, and it would waterfall with minimal input to the ground(if you let it, but you probably shouldn't).

I couldn't get it to completely flatten out an upright spin, but inverted I'm sure I could get it to hold its altitude b/c it flattened so well. It needs more right thrust as TR'ing was next to impossible. But, knife edge was super and... well, I am just so excited about this plane that I simply can't wait to get to the field again. Oh, and now that I have had a chance to really try it out, the G2 Cap doesn't even come close to being as aerobatic as this Kyosho.

P.S. ASP is got to be the best value 4 stroke engines have ever seen. That sucker starts first flip every time, idles like a champ, and is quite a stump-puller

Regards,
Philip



Michael - Yes, I put the up thrust in and I suggest you do it as well. In fact, I might ad a bit more before its all said and done.

Hey, I am having trouble hovering this plane. It seems to pull to the left very hard. I have added more right thrust but it still pulls to the left so hard that is impossible to hold hover even with full rudder. How much right thrust(how many washers) have you guys added to your planes? Could it be something else?

Regards,
Philip

I finished the engine installation. I put in an O.S. 50SX. I put in the extra upward thrust recommended in the supplement.

If you look closely, you can see that I had to move the engine mount. When I first put it in I centered the mount, not the thrust line. I filled the holes by epoxying in a dowel. I then moved them over 1/4". All is well now.

I also found that a 2 1/4" spinner doesn't fit on the 50SX. I'll try a 2 1/2".

Next up is the pull-pull rudder.

-Michael

The 50 SX is probably a good choice, a .46 will not be unlimited. I had a 45 ABC Super Tigre in mine and it wasn't as spirited as I'd hoped but enjoyable nonetheless. The upthrust might be a good idea. Mine had a terrible pull towards the gear in knife edge.

Apart from that it was a great flying plane. Recently sold it to make room for more planes... I wish I hadn't now that I see this

Just maidened mine last week, am running an MVVS 0.49 on it. Unfortunately, the muffler came off in flight, so I only had a few minutes in the air with it. Going to put it through its paces this weekend hopefully. Mine is built all stock, so hopefully I will not have any problems.

I am using the APC 12.25x3.75 prop, which I feel wil give me better handling for aerobatics, anyone have any comments regarding props?

i also do have a cap 232 46 size although the one made by world models. how different is the kyosho from the one made by world. i have a OS70 Surpass powering the plane.

Has anyone else had trouble hovering this plane? Like I said, mine pulls to the left so hard it won't stay in hover even with full rudder.

Regards,
Philip

Hello Philip,

A couple of thoughts...

What prop are you using? Many of my friends use very low pitch props with their hover planes.

How is your lateral balance?

The firewall looks to have a bit of right thrust already in it. Check to see that your engine thrust line is perpendicular to the firewall. If you inadvertently canted it to the left it may have counteracted the right thrust in the firewall.

Good luck,

-Michael

Low pitch props are definitely better for hovering. The APC 12.2.5x3.75 is a good one, unfortunately I cant get hold of any of their 3d props ( **x4W) I think the 13x4 ought to be good, great thrust at low speeds for 3D.

By the way, for anyone thinking about over powering this plane, watch out for the airframe strength. Got a friend over here who stuffed a .90 2-stroke on this model, he cracked the hor. stab when trying to pull up at full power.

Anyone have the plane tip stall before? I am considering setting up spoilers to counteract the tip stall, would it be necessary?

Hello all,
I've had about 15 more flights on my new cap 232. It's myfirst plane ever and it's still in one piece. Everyone can't get over the fact that it's my first plane. It flies great. No complaints about the o.s. .46 FX. It starts almost every first flip. I think it's a perfect engine for the plane. I think i'll get a different plane for 3D. Maybe a profile. Any suggestions?

--thomas moyer

Cap-232 as a first plane?? You got magic thumbs or something??

Has anyone used pull-pull on the elevator for this plane. I set mine up with pul-pull on the elevators and mounted the rudder servo on the rear of the fuselage. Would appreciate any comments or advice on this, Have only had time to fly the plane twice so far.

Has anyone messed with the CG on this plane? Is it critical to put it at 3 3/16 like the instructions say?

I have my CG slightly behind the reccommended point (about 3 1/2") its behaving allright so far.