Its clear that the hottest planes on the market today are those in the 30 cc range.the biggest reason is the availablity of engines like the new DLE30.

I am looking at buying my first 30cc ..maybe we could get guys to post their 30cc planes here and then we can see all the vendors out there paving the way for 30cc ..would love to see where you got it and some information about it ie ws weight engine ...your like and dislike..

I have a DLE-30 in my AeroWorks Cessna 195 and it pulls the 16.5 pound model around great. Most flying is done at half throttle or less.

But I don't think you are looking for a classic high wing monoplane, are you?

cloudancer03,

I have the H9 Taylorcraft with a DLE 30 coming in around 15 lbs swinging an 18X8 XOAR prop. Nothing wrong with classic high wing monoplane, pettit and I seem to enjoy them .

1. H9 Funtana 26cc RCGF (plenty) 10.5lbs
2. Giant Sportster 30cc Syssa 14.25lbs

I'm happy to see the increase in small gassers and planes for them. Though some small glow still exist in my hanger, my interest niche has swung to the 1.20 size planes both glow and gas but 30cc fits as well. Currently flying a Akrobat II with Saito 1.25, a Hanger 9 PT-19 with Enya 1.20, a Phaeton 90 with G-20, Ultra Stick Lite with G-20 and a Taylorcraft with G-23.

With full retirement getting closer, a few planes and engines have been laid back among them another Ultra Stick Lite, two 1/4 Cubs, a Yak 54, SpacewalkerII, Great Planes Super Stearman, and the plans, wood and parts to scratch built a 1929 Travel Air 6000 to 98". Engines on hand are a G-26, MLD 28, Aero 28, Saito 182 twin and Ryobi 31. So, everything that is in the future fits the 30cc size range and I now prefer gas for easy starting, easy clean up and fuel economy.

I've got a Pilot Yak 54 with a Syssa 30cc - great combo..............

FB

Pilot 260, DLE 30, 18x8 XOAR, Hitech 5625's and a 5645 on the Rudder

I have the 50CC version but if you're looking for an aerobatic plane for that engine check out Chief Aircraft and the Pilot RC SBach 342

It's on my list as soon as I get home from Iraq in November, thanks

Keep your head down and thanks for taking over the torch.

great planes giant stik/fg36
H9 thunderbolt 150/os bgx 35cc

Dolphinco (peak) Sukhoi SU26M with an Turnigy (FTL) 30cc. 18x6 APC Wide.

awesome keep posting.I looked art peak and \wildhare baby extras ..my heitancy is that I own a seagull extra 260(180size) and some of the feedback I have gotten all suggest the dle30 for 3d performance may be marginal.the plane will weigh in at 13 pounds when flying.I thought maybe of getting a carbon langing gear but I dont think it will shed much weight though a one piece gear would be stronger.

I also looked abell rc they have a 120 size plane that weighs in under 11 pounds. my thing is I want to be able to hover a bit and pull straight up .funny thing is I dont really do it much I tend to fly more precision aerobatics but I want good power ..hey your posts are helpful anymore information on performance is much appreciated.

I suspect we'll see more and more airframes that are well suited for 26 to 30 cc gassers.I love the 120 size planes any bigger is just unmanagable for my tastes although I have been there.

At 10.5 lbs with 2 batteries and built pretty much according to plans, my 26cc RCGF/Funtana will hover and pull out easily with less power than the DLE might supply. How light do you really want to go though? There are the OMP profile types too?

http://ohiomodelplanes.com/models/index.htm

I have an Ultra Stick Lite with a DLE 30 and I really enjoy it. I am just about to begin a build of a Great Planes P6E. Picked one up new in the box. It will be perfect for the DLE30.

I have looked at profiles but right now I want to stay witha built up plane.I am gathering a 10.5 or say 11 pound airframe with low wing loading is ideal but this isnt a perfect hobby either..I just think 13 pounds will mean that it wont have unlimited vertical for the big wow manuvers and likely will struggle to go straight up out of a hover.I am spoiled with my 3dhobby planes but the 30cc market really has me wanting to do gas again..

As mentioned earlier, I have a Syssa in a 14.25 lb Giant Sportster. It has no trouble with unlimited vertical or big wow maneuvers. Pulling up out of a hover might be another matter? Motor still breaking in (4th tank), haven't spent any time there, but not looking for much there honestly. At that kind of weight, it's definetly on the fat side for that kind of thing. Sport flying though, there's more than enough there for about anything you'd want? I think something in the 12 to 13lb range might be a good compromise between the Funtana and the Sportster?

You mentioned "marginal" 3D performance with the DLE/Seagull Extra earlier. Maybe in this case "marginal" is just right? Don't know for sure, but that's likely where I'm headed next time out. FWIW

I am running the SAP 180HP (Syssa 30 cc) in pattern planes with full tuned exhaust systems. Outstanding performance and as quiet as glow

Also am running the SAP180 in an Extreme Flight Extra, 78" wing. It is a large plane but only weighs 11# 5 ozs and the SAP powers it extremely well. I have mine set-up with pipe...the EF eXTRA has a full pipe tunnel built in so if you want a ride on the wild side, try this combo.

I have a thread in the Pattern Forum that discusses the details of piped SAP180.

My Tunigy 30cc pulls the Sukhoi around perfectly and with the 18x6 the verticles arn't fast but she just keeps climbing & i'm still running on a 25/1 mixture ,going to 40/1 this weekend which should see a slight increase in the top end , but she hovers & will pull out of the hover though again at a nice slow controlled manner. I'm still playing around with the CG & doing everything ten mistakes high but the performance of the plane & the engine especially in the lower rev range & speed have impressed me ,also the build quality of the SU26 is very very good !!.

maybe I still can salvage my seagull 260..never thought of a tuned pipe on a small gas engine..is it hard to do ?any instructional video or articles to show me and what or who has this stuff.

Look at the Pattern Forum. I started the thread on care and feeding of the SAP180 on pipe. Scan through it and pick the stuff you need. In the early pages I show what pipe and tuning length, header, coupling material that works, etc. Later pages we discuss how to keep the header on the xhaust flange. Both are critical pieces. It is a very long thread unfortunately....but there is a terrific amount of useful information from several of us that have gone down this path. We are the trail blazers on this type of application. We are developing the techniques as we go and are getting really great results

The tuned pipe will enable as much as double the pitch for a given diameter. It will also enable at least a 1"-2" diameter increase for a given typical pitch one would run with muffler. For example, I am running a 17x12 apc in a pattern set-up. Bob is running a 15.5x12 wide blade apc at around 9K rpm. I have run a 19x10 in a sport set-up but it's noisy (8.5 K rpm) for my taste (which doesn't mean much in a sport application, I know). The engine will turn a 20x8 on pipe at around 8K, but is noisy (high rpm and large diameter means noisy tips)

I've got a Hyperion yuk opps yak 54. First owner had it electric. I converted it to gas, DLE 30. Can ya say VERTICAL, had to beef up a few areas, but still came in a few ounces over 12lbs, if it wasn't a yuk, I'd say I love it ,but still a fun little plane

dont mind reading ..always looking to learn and experience new things.thats how we get better.

when is a plane too heavy for aerobatics and 3d with a 30cc motor.its driving me nuts about my seagullextra 260(180)...the plane says 12 pounds and from what I am told that is marginal with a dle30..interstingly enough I looked at an spe40 and ccrc pro 40 and the horse power was the same or less?I know its also about torque and weight .can someone set me straight.I am looking now at selling it and getting something else.

Depends on the kind of aerobatic flying you want to do. For 3D, the 12 lb model should hover at 1/2 throttle. That doesn't leave you much margin to accelerate from hover. It should do it but grudgingly.

Prop selection has the most to do with how the model behaves in 3D. That's why most sport fliers use something light like an 18x6 to do 3D when using the muffler on the engine. A pipe will give you about 800-1000 rpm boost using the 18x6. You want thrust

Just selling a 12 pound model and getting another 12 lb model as replacement is no answer. Unfortunately you are not going to find much lighter than that...even the EF Extra is marginally lighter but by only a few ounces. And this is a larger plane than most in this size range.

The ZDZ40 F3A is a rear intake rear exhaust engine. Troy Built has them for less than 400$ which is a steal for around 4 1/2 hp.

maybe I should go ahead and put the plane together as my first gasser and just fly it and get experience from it and eventually buy a new one.I am trying to realize that first of all I am not an experienced 3D pilot except on electrics and thats a whole different thing.secondly it will likely hover and even if it takes more throttle so what I am just in a learning curve where gas is concerned.I dont need tons of power to do blenders harriers or rolling circles..so provided the 12 pounds allows me to perform crisp aerobatic manuvers I will enjoy every minute of flight.