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TripleDeucer 10-16-2006 11:02 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
I have heard before that they use the same factory in China as Hanger 9 and other big resellers. Their orders take a back seat to the orders from the big resellers. I can't say that this is really the case, but it sure looks like it.
It would be really nice if DPModels would update their news page on their website at least once a month.

MadDog35 10-16-2006 11:57 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
I am a real sucker. I check every day to see if they have updated anything on thier website. Nope, never! I am very happy with all my DP products, including an awesome running bluehead. But why do they have to put that damn message on the page that says to check back often when they never change anything? What a shame. I talked to Sandy back in January and she told me they were testing a new 50cc ultimate biplane. I told her I was very interested and that my birthday was in March and I was hopping to get into the 50cc class by then. She said they were already flying one and they should be available around then. It is now mid October and I have emailed her and called and left messages several times. No return calls, or mail and no new biplane. This is really too bad. Ok I dont want to bash them too much but just wanted to warn others not to wait on them unless you have patience.

TripleDeucer 10-17-2006 12:29 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
MadDog, I hear ya. Even if there was no real groundbreaking news, they could tell us. I don't know why they don't change factories. There must be another way to get their models built. Even offering them as kits cut by an american based kit cutter would be a 100% improvement. I still enjoy long winters building kits.

Ranfred Radius 10-17-2006 11:24 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Can't believe I'm doing this because I want it!

Have you guys seen this!!!???
http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=231044
I probably couldn't scrape the funds together quick enough anyway..

Randy

Siesta 10-18-2006 02:03 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Randy,

Appreciate your hint!!!

Like you, I want one, too, but can't buy this one, because he is not shipping abroad.
In addition, I need an unbuilt ARC or WHITE one, since I want to put it on floats.
Would be a shame to do modifications to a beautifully finished Super Cub.
So, hopefully, this one will find its way into good hands!


Is anybody willing to sell me an unbuilt DAVE PATRICK PA 18 / PA18 SUPER CUB in WHITE or ARC?

I'll be paying a very good price!


Need the plane for float competition, next May. :eek:

Matt

icrashbipes 10-18-2006 08:25 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
They say January delivery of all cubs but I've heard it before.

Siesta 10-19-2006 02:37 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
icrashbipes

Where and when did you get this information, last?

Thanks
Matt

icrashbipes 10-19-2006 05:50 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
they finally answered the phone on Wednesday.

I bought a 160 twin several months ago and have been waiting ever since. guess i can wait till 07 but still not convinced they are coming.


TripleDeucer 10-19-2006 11:35 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 


ORIGINAL: farmerric

I have several OS 160 engines (3) and I never had a lick of trouble with them...in fact I think they are the best in this size in the hobby. Two of them are in Cubs, a DPM with the tank in the kit position, and a 1/4 scale Sig cub, and in a Precedent Turbulent. The two cubs have the ED 103 glo plug heater and the Turbulent has no heater. On the Turbulent, my field box cant light the two plugs in parallel, so I start the engine on one plug and then switch the plug and light the other one. Love those engines!

farmerric, which carb do you have on your engines? The old air bleed or the newer metered one. Also, what fuel do you use?

Thanks

farmerric 10-20-2006 09:06 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
I cant tell what the carb type is right now...they are all inside a cowl. All of them are over 5 yrs old, and I never adjusted the idle from the original setting. They just run..7000 RPM on an 18-8 Masterscrew and 7300 RPM on an 18-6 Zinger and 92 dbm at 10 ft. I use sid morgan 12% 18% oil
RdeB

motogman 10-20-2006 07:37 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Matt,

I have the ARC clipped wing brand new that I bought about 5 months ago, other than bolting it together nothing has been done to it except no manufactures box, tossed it out. Also have optional parts would need to sell all together, for the right price I may let it go.

Cub 550.00
Dave Patrick dash 25.00
Cub wheels 25.00
2 15-foot rolls white 21st century fabric 106.00
Full cockpit from scalercmodels.com 100.00


Dwayne

Siesta 10-20-2006 09:13 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Dwayne

Thank you very much for your offer! But I already have a Clipped Wing. :eek:
I appreciate your help and am sure, somebody else will read your post and buy it.
Good luck and thanks again!

Matt

frank99 10-21-2006 08:36 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
can it be shipped with out the box thanks frank

Ray III 10-21-2006 10:15 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 


ORIGINAL: icrashbipes

they finally answered the phone on Wednesday.

I bought a 160 twin several months ago and have been waiting ever since. guess i can wait till 07 but still not convinced they are coming.


Well Group,I am finally fed up with the excuses, for two years I have heard them all several times from early spring to late fall and now January 07. A couple of months ago I called and asked if my order would be included in the next shipment... "oh we don't give that information out..." I may have continued the wait if I knew it was "close". My order has now been cancelled via telephone message left on their answering machine and via a fax. Although DPM looks like they make a real nice model, I can't agree with their lack of business skills to deliver to the customer. Either youare in the business to design, and sell airplanes or you are not...

After attending the IHOBBYEXPO last Thursday I, of course didn't see DPM there. I did however place an order for a 105" Tigermoth from Powerline Hobbies that looks like it will be a nice substitution for the S'Cub, at least for me. It ships around November 20th, and somehow I believe them. They tell me my OS 1.60 twin I have had waiting will be perfect and maybe even my KELEO exhaust, MPI glow driver, and SWB stand-offs will work out in the Tigermoth as well.

Good luck and I hope to see more progress and tips communicated here. I have flown 1:1 size Supercubs a lot, but never a Tigermoth, at least I'll have a smaller one soon.

Ray

motogman 10-21-2006 08:48 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 


ORIGINAL: frank99

can it be shipped with out the box thanks frank
Well if you want it that way, not for responsible damage though :D, I would make up some shipping boxes probably in 2 or 3 boxes instead of 1 large like they shipped it. Still not 100% i want to sell it seeing as how hard they are to get and they are really nice but for the right offer I may. I'll post some pics with everything included when I get some time.

TripleDeucer 10-22-2006 12:35 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Hey Ray, I think you have had the longest wait of anybody on here and there is no excuse for that. Dave Patrick does a good job of designing planes that fly really nice and that is THE ONLY reason they are still in business. How can they make a living with nothing to sell? This must be a sideline biz which explains why they don't give a $#@&%!!! about their customers.
Your from the same state as DPM, so go rough em up a bit[>:][>:][>:]

Siesta 11-16-2006 12:38 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Hey guys

I have been checking www.davepatrickmodels.com , almost daily, for about 3 months, in hope of an update saying they had the PA-18s in stock, again.
The site always worked. Tried to access it, yesterday and today. No success. Seems, their website is down. Anyone of you more talented than me?

Maybe it is finally being updated with the so long desired news... :D
Or is it a symptom of the beginning of the end? [&o]

Matt

flyn_colorado 11-16-2006 05:21 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
It works ok for me. Hope its not the beginning of the end.

Siesta 11-16-2006 10:07 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
It does work again for me, too.
But, unfortunately, without any substantial update [&o]

Ray III 11-18-2006 01:39 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Well, it appears they have been closed "due to an illness". Their news page was updated on 11/17/2006.

I am sure y'all will still have to wait...

PTS 11-29-2006 01:34 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Hello!

I have a buddy trying to sell his Orange and White Clipped Wing, and a Saito 180. Plane and Engine "BRAND NEW" "NEVER FLOWN".


$800.00

T Huston 12-02-2006 06:50 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
PTS,
Sent you an E-mail & a PM. I Will Take The Cub. Call me !!
Regards
Tom

wjmiller 12-06-2006 11:48 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Hi guys,

I have a quick question for anyone who cares to answer... I have a dave patrick PA-18 on order, probably just like everyone else - ha - and I have bought an O.S. FT-160 for the power plant, which I have seen an a few PA-18's on this thread. I was also wanted to have a Keleo Creations scale exhaust pipe for this setup. This is the first multi cylinder engine that I have owned so forgive my ignorance, but as I was looking at the exhaust, I saw that there was no pressure tap on the exhaust pipe to pressurize the fuel tank. I asked someone at Keleo about it and they said that everyone requested that no tap be installed so they stopped doing it, but that I could have a tap if I wanted to request it. Finally,... If you have not guessed by now, my question to you all is,... do I need the pressure tap on the exhaust or does the FT-160 engine being a actual !QUOT!double!QUOT! 4 stroke engine provide enough sucking power making a pressure tap off the exhaust unnecessary and I would only need a vent on the fuel tank to relieve any vacuum pressure? Thanks in advance, Jay

icrashbipes 12-06-2006 12:26 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
yes and yes, the motor is set up like a typical gas set up. just a vent line from the tank. It does not require muffler pressure. if they offered to put a tap in , you can use it for smoke. those headers will get hot enough for decent smoke.

ORIGINAL: wjmiller

Hi guys,

I have a quick question for anyone who cares to answer... I have a dave patrick PA-18 on order, probably just like everyone else - ha - and I have bought an O.S. FT-160 for the power plant, which I have seen an a few PA-18's on this thread. I was also wanted to have a Keleo Creations scale exhaust pipe for this setup. This is the first multi cylinder engine that I have owned so forgive my ignorance, but as I was looking at the exhaust, I saw that there was no pressure tap on the exhaust pipe to pressurize the fuel tank. I asked someone at Keleo about it and they said that everyone requested that no tap be installed so they stopped doing it, but that I could have a tap if I wanted to request it. Finally,... If you have not guessed by now, my question to you all is,... do I need the pressure tap on the exhaust or does the FT-160 engine being a actual !QUOT!double!QUOT! 4 stroke engine provide enough sucking power making a pressure tap off the exhaust unnecessary and I would only need a vent on the fuel tank to relieve any vacuum pressure? Thanks in advance, Jay

farmerric 12-06-2006 02:01 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Jay
I have 3 OS 160 twins, one of them in a DP CUB (see some of my exhaust pipe pics in earlier posts) and I dont use muffler pressure on any one of them, no problems at all with fuel draw. I do use an on board glo lighter to make the starting easier with both plugs lit at the same time and no cowl holes. The Keleo exhaust pipes that have been shown on other posts bring the two pipes down to the same side of the cowl, I bent pipes and brought them both down to the middle of the cowl, more like the full scale. You will love the engine (and the plane)
Ric

yard-dart 12-14-2006 01:11 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Does anyone have the slightest idea when the Dave Patrick company is going to get these planes back in stock? I've been hearing they've been out of stock for quite a while now. I'm wanting to buy the regular yellow super cub, but I'm told that they're out of stock and don't know when they'll be getting them in. A friend of mine told me that he went to the website, placed an order, and found out a day or two later that the plane he ordered was on backorder, or out of stock. I'm wanting to buy a plane now, but I don't know if they have anything to sell.
Can anyone give me any info regarding this matter?

icrashbipes 12-14-2006 05:27 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
look elsewhere, if you want to be well serviced with your new purchase.

Ray III 12-14-2006 05:51 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 


ORIGINAL: yard-dart

Does anyone have the slightest idea when the Dave Patrick company is going to get these planes back in stock? I've been hearing they've been out of stock for quite a while now. I'm wanting to buy the regular yellow super cub, but I'm told that they're out of stock and don't know when they'll be getting them in. A friend of mine told me that he went to the website, placed an order, and found out a day or two later that the plane he ordered was on backorder, or out of stock. I'm wanting to buy a plane now, but I don't know if they have anything to sell.
Can anyone give me any info regarding this matter?

Well Until this past November I had one on order for roughly two years. After seeing a 20% Curtis Jenny at the Chicago Hobby Show, I cancelled the S'Cub order and ordered the Jenny. I got the Jenny Yesterday in 3 large boxes and I believe it will satisfy me more than the S'Cub. This thing is very large, it has a 105" span as the S'Cub has, and it is GORGEOUS. My OS 1.60 twin and Keleo exhaust look like they will work just fine

I got tired of not only the wait, but more so of the run-around BS of no communication or answers.

The DPM S'Cub is a beautiful a/c and I hear it performs extremly well, and I would still like one, but not the DPM way.

Good Luck,

Ray

Joe Dirr 12-16-2006 08:09 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
I have made several attempts to reach Dave Patrick Models, but they simply will not return my phone calls, faxes or emails. I spoke to a local hobby store owner, who attempted to place a $3000.00 order and received the same treatment - no response.

Regardless of the circumstances @ DPM, this kind of behavior is unacceptable and I believe that DPM owes the general public some kind of communiqué indicating that - either, they are no longer doing business or they are suspending all orders until further notice etc.

To simply ignore customers with money in-hand eager to purchase their products and get no response is completely unprofessional.




Bud Faulkner 12-16-2006 08:14 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Ray,
Where did you get your jenny? Sounds like a nice one.


Bud

Ray III 12-16-2006 08:39 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
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Bud,

I first saw it at the IHOBBY EXPO in Chicago last November (2006). Powerline Hobbies out of Joplin, MO www.powerlinehobbies.com is the distributor. I believe it is manfactured by Green Models in China. The workmanship looks great and all of the detailing is done. Since we placed the order on the dealer day at the show, it just came in early this week in three large boxes, as the fuse is 78" and the span is 105" (just like the s'cub). Greyhound was the least expensive form for the shipping. The cowling is painted fiberglass, all of the wood is laser cut, the cabanes and wing struts are either anodized aluminum or brass, and the covering is probably done better than I could have done myself.

[img][/img] If I did it right, here is a shot of the fuse, stab, fin and cowling taken yesterday.

Regards,

Ray

Bud Faulkner 12-16-2006 08:49 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Wow Ray,
You're gonna have fun with that one! Nice bird. I have the proctor jenny but haven't started it. Thanks for pic.

Bud

Ray III 12-16-2006 08:59 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Bud,

The only shortcoming so far is there are no printed instructions. There is an assembly video that is coming soon, and I have lot's of questions regarding which hardware to use and where as well as a little thing like the CG. Did I mention all of the pull/pull cables are already prepared with the ends and clevis's, and the wheels are beautiful. Hopefully the video will come soon so I can get it going. I want to fly it this spring of course.

Ray

Bud Faulkner 12-16-2006 09:20 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Sounds good Ray, I think I'd prefer a video over written instructions, maybe more manufacturers will be doing that in the future with arf's? Hang in there...springs a comin! I'm grounded too...hate the cold. :)

yard-dart 12-16-2006 10:28 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Back to the issue of Dave Patrick, I too never got a return phone call. I spoke with a fella who works at Esprit Models down in Florida, a hobby store which at one time carried the Dave Patrick planes. He too told me that I may as well give up on them. He hasn't gotten any response from them in a while either.

I think that they need to simply shut down their site. All they're doing is getting people's hopes up. Out of site, out of mind.

Ray III 12-16-2006 06:00 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Maybe He, (DPM) is focussing all of his attention on the 1/3 scale Supercub he was telling me about about a year ago. The one that wll be built in a different factory from where all of his delays are occurring.

M a y b e ? ? ?

frank99 12-17-2006 01:45 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
ray gave up on dpm a while back,still looking on the fle market, joplin is very near me will take a look at this plane, nice keep us updated on the build, thanks frank

Bud Faulkner 12-17-2006 08:00 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Don't know how much anyone wants to spend but their's one on rcuniverse for $1850.00.......add the cost of what engine/radio/etc you will put in a new one and compare. This has the same engine and onboard glow as mine and I have over $2000.00 invested but mine has the full wing.

frank99 12-17-2006 11:15 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
saw that one but i need the yellow one, there was a yellow one with some kind of gasser here around 2500 it did not get many hits, may be gone, i guess i am never going to get one. need, yellow, os 1.6 4c ,and near to drive and pick up. going to the two step in branson and will check out the jenny in joplin thanks for the help frank

frank99 12-17-2006 11:28 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
brain storm with my pea brain. bud you must be ready to trade your great looking plane, it is the best cub in the world,i think it was white and blue and loaded, full wing, could come and see the east side of the best nation in the world, the usa thanks frank


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