Learning Progress to more manuvers , planes?
12-26-2011 | 10:37 AM
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RF6 has done me a lot of good I think. I've been a bit nervous about flying for a month or so because of the 2 crashes I had. The weather has been windy,wet,cold also.
Today I flew 4 different planes and had decent landings (in my back grass) even. It was even 7-8 mph winds so I am very pleased.
I flew my heaviest plane , my most powerful plane , and my most aerobatic plane. By no means are these heavy , powerful or aerobatic by others comparisons. I flew with good confidence and even a bit of skill, lol. Too bad noone saw me. ha.
Maybe it would be nice if someone would post their own progression as aircraft types, type of flying, ect. as they learned to get good. I realise everyone may be different , but it would be nice to see a typical or average order of things. I just lately saw my first 4-D flying and WOW it looks really neat.
My thoughts on the RF6 Sim: I still hate it , am bored with it and don't really even enjoy it. It's like excercize though , it did me a lot of good as a tool. It was money well spent already. Merry Christmas too all. Today's flights were a nice present to me.
Today I flew 4 different planes and had decent landings (in my back grass) even. It was even 7-8 mph winds so I am very pleased.
I flew my heaviest plane , my most powerful plane , and my most aerobatic plane. By no means are these heavy , powerful or aerobatic by others comparisons. I flew with good confidence and even a bit of skill, lol. Too bad noone saw me. ha.
Maybe it would be nice if someone would post their own progression as aircraft types, type of flying, ect. as they learned to get good. I realise everyone may be different , but it would be nice to see a typical or average order of things. I just lately saw my first 4-D flying and WOW it looks really neat.
My thoughts on the RF6 Sim: I still hate it , am bored with it and don't really even enjoy it. It's like excercize though , it did me a lot of good as a tool. It was money well spent already. Merry Christmas too all. Today's flights were a nice present to me.
12-26-2011 | 05:16 PM
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Ok, I'll give you a brief summary of my progression. I started with a plane that no one should really start with. A Parkzone J-3 brushless. Crashed it many times and rebuilt it many times before I became skilled enough to fly it to its limits.
Bought a Hobbyzone Super Cub and figured out it was much easier to see and control than the J-3. Also bought a Slo-V and several of the Firebird variants. Still have Slo-v and Firebird Freedom. These were fine planes, but didn't really help me progress since they are also three channel planes.
Bought my first four channel plane, a Parkzone T-28, and learned rolls, stall turns, flying inverted, etc. Crashed it and repaired it several times in the process, usually from being too close to the ground while flying inverted. Also bought a Typhoon2 and loved it, but it really didn't help my flying skills progress any more than the T-28.
About this time I also experimented with LED's and started flying all of the above mentioned planes at night. I Still enjoy this immensely.
About this time I found a local club and learned about RCuniverse. By this time I was also getting very confident with the T-28 and was already teaching other people how to fly my Super Cub and J-3.
Flew an Avistar on a buddy box at the club, joined the club, bought my own Avistar, still fly it and teach with it, also bought two more Avistars, still have them all and use them to teach.
(Not that I am encouraging you to teach if that's not your cup of tea, but teaching others also improves your own skills and reflexes. But there is a risk and a price that may not be right for you)
The Avistar and the experienced fliers at the club really helped me progress and helped my skills and reflexes improve enough to move up to more advanced sport planes. I flew a few different ones that belonged to friends before I bought my own. These "loaners" included the Sig Something Extra, Super Sportster, Tango .40, Twist .40, and some others I can't even remember.
About this time I got a simulator for christmas (FSOne) and started practicing knife edges, hovering, and other manuevers on the sim as well as letting some of my students practice on it.. I also had a friend with Real Flight and spent a lot of time practicing on it.
About this same time, I bought a Great Planes Venus .40 and a Sig Someting Extra. The Venus was stretching the limits of my abilities, so I spent a lot of time on the SSE until I got more comfortable with the speed of the Venus.
Crashed the Venus due to radio failure or some other unkown. Sold the SSE and bought an Escapade. Loved the Escapade, but missed the SSE, so I bought another SSE. Still have it, also bought another Venus and by this time had plenty of skill to fly it. I still have the Venus and fly it regularly. I'm still not an expert pattern pilot, but I really enjoy trying!
Since then I have bought and traded many planes including Extras, Edges, Yaks, just about all WWII trainers and warbirds, and too many others to list.
To this day I am still practicing and trying to improve my skills and I still crash once in a while. If you're not crashing once in a while , you probably aren't pushing yourself any. But that's fine if you enjoy where you are. Sometimes all I do is fly my 1/4 scale Cub as slow as I can up and down the center of the runway, most of the time only about 3" off the deck. Looks boring to others, but it's relaxing to me. That's what's important, do what you enjoy, don't worry about impressing anyone else!!
Hope this helps.
Bought a Hobbyzone Super Cub and figured out it was much easier to see and control than the J-3. Also bought a Slo-V and several of the Firebird variants. Still have Slo-v and Firebird Freedom. These were fine planes, but didn't really help me progress since they are also three channel planes.
Bought my first four channel plane, a Parkzone T-28, and learned rolls, stall turns, flying inverted, etc. Crashed it and repaired it several times in the process, usually from being too close to the ground while flying inverted. Also bought a Typhoon2 and loved it, but it really didn't help my flying skills progress any more than the T-28.
About this time I also experimented with LED's and started flying all of the above mentioned planes at night. I Still enjoy this immensely.
About this time I found a local club and learned about RCuniverse. By this time I was also getting very confident with the T-28 and was already teaching other people how to fly my Super Cub and J-3.
Flew an Avistar on a buddy box at the club, joined the club, bought my own Avistar, still fly it and teach with it, also bought two more Avistars, still have them all and use them to teach.
(Not that I am encouraging you to teach if that's not your cup of tea, but teaching others also improves your own skills and reflexes. But there is a risk and a price that may not be right for you)
The Avistar and the experienced fliers at the club really helped me progress and helped my skills and reflexes improve enough to move up to more advanced sport planes. I flew a few different ones that belonged to friends before I bought my own. These "loaners" included the Sig Something Extra, Super Sportster, Tango .40, Twist .40, and some others I can't even remember.
About this time I got a simulator for christmas (FSOne) and started practicing knife edges, hovering, and other manuevers on the sim as well as letting some of my students practice on it.. I also had a friend with Real Flight and spent a lot of time practicing on it.
About this same time, I bought a Great Planes Venus .40 and a Sig Someting Extra. The Venus was stretching the limits of my abilities, so I spent a lot of time on the SSE until I got more comfortable with the speed of the Venus.
Crashed the Venus due to radio failure or some other unkown. Sold the SSE and bought an Escapade. Loved the Escapade, but missed the SSE, so I bought another SSE. Still have it, also bought another Venus and by this time had plenty of skill to fly it. I still have the Venus and fly it regularly. I'm still not an expert pattern pilot, but I really enjoy trying!
Since then I have bought and traded many planes including Extras, Edges, Yaks, just about all WWII trainers and warbirds, and too many others to list.
To this day I am still practicing and trying to improve my skills and I still crash once in a while. If you're not crashing once in a while , you probably aren't pushing yourself any. But that's fine if you enjoy where you are. Sometimes all I do is fly my 1/4 scale Cub as slow as I can up and down the center of the runway, most of the time only about 3" off the deck. Looks boring to others, but it's relaxing to me. That's what's important, do what you enjoy, don't worry about impressing anyone else!!
Hope this helps.
12-27-2011 | 12:05 AM
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RE: Learning Progress to more manuvers , planes?
If I were to post how I would do it now, knowing what I didn't know then...
The advice I got to start with the Apprentice I think was one of the best tips I got. It is docile but flies really well. Once you have the basics it will fly inverted, do stall turns and Cuban eights pretty well. It is a blast to float fly with.
I would have started out with the plug and play, though, and a DX7 or 8, and Gens Ace batteries and a quad charger. Nothing wrong with the DX5 it comes with, but with no model memory as soon as you get a 2nd plane you will be wanting a computer radio. DX5 now gets used for RC skydiver, so not a total waste.
From there I got a Radian Pro, which is a good way to start if you are interested in gliders.
I also got an eflite Advance, which I think is a pretty decent first low wing plane.
Then the Handy King came out, and I could fly it on the 3300 4 cells I had for the Advance, plus I had a 60 amp ESC already. Though it is a 3D type mid wing, with rates tame I find it easy to fly. Harrier is easy, and good to practice knife edge and slow rolls on. Being a foamy and relatively inexpensive is a plus, too.
Most recently I got a carbon z yak. Flies excellent. For the price, though, I think I'd do an Extreme flight if I were to do that again.
Other than that, I have a 12' Telemaster kit I am working on, and I'm getting a 110 Rascal.
The advice I got to start with the Apprentice I think was one of the best tips I got. It is docile but flies really well. Once you have the basics it will fly inverted, do stall turns and Cuban eights pretty well. It is a blast to float fly with.
I would have started out with the plug and play, though, and a DX7 or 8, and Gens Ace batteries and a quad charger. Nothing wrong with the DX5 it comes with, but with no model memory as soon as you get a 2nd plane you will be wanting a computer radio. DX5 now gets used for RC skydiver, so not a total waste.
From there I got a Radian Pro, which is a good way to start if you are interested in gliders.
I also got an eflite Advance, which I think is a pretty decent first low wing plane.
Then the Handy King came out, and I could fly it on the 3300 4 cells I had for the Advance, plus I had a 60 amp ESC already. Though it is a 3D type mid wing, with rates tame I find it easy to fly. Harrier is easy, and good to practice knife edge and slow rolls on. Being a foamy and relatively inexpensive is a plus, too.
Most recently I got a carbon z yak. Flies excellent. For the price, though, I think I'd do an Extreme flight if I were to do that again.
Other than that, I have a 12' Telemaster kit I am working on, and I'm getting a 110 Rascal.
12-27-2011 | 04:39 AM
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RE: Learning Progress to more manuvers , planes?
ORIGINAL: hugger-4641
Ok, I'll give you a brief summary of my progression. I started with a plane that no one should really start with. A Parkzone J-3 brushless. Crashed it many times and rebuilt it many times before I became skilled enough to fly it to its limits.
Bought a Hobbyzone Super Cub and figured out it was much easier to see and control than the J-3. Also bought a Slo-V and several of the Firebird variants. Still have Slo-v and Firebird Freedom. These were fine planes, but didn't really help me progress since they are also three channel planes.
Bought my first four channel plane, a Parkzone T-28, and learned rolls, stall turns, flying inverted, etc. Crashed it and repaired it several times in the process, usually from being too close to the ground while flying inverted. Also bought a Typhoon2 and loved it, but it really didn't help my flying skills progress any more than the T-28.
About this time I also experimented with LED's and started flying all of the above mentioned planes at night. I Still enjoy this immensely.
About this time I found a local club and learned about RCuniverse. By this time I was also getting very confident with the T-28 and was already teaching other people how to fly my Super Cub and J-3.
Flew an Avistar on a buddy box at the club, joined the club, bought my own Avistar, still fly it and teach with it, also bought two more Avistars, still have them all and use them to teach.
(Not that I am encouraging you to teach if that's not your cup of tea, but teaching others also improves your own skills and reflexes. But there is a risk and a price that may not be right for you)
The Avistar and the experienced fliers at the club really helped me progress and helped my skills and reflexes improve enough to move up to more advanced sport planes. I flew a few different ones that belonged to friends before I bought my own. These ''loaners'' included the Sig Something Extra, Super Sportster, Tango .40, Twist .40, and some others I can't even remember.
About this time I got a simulator for christmas (FSOne) and started practicing knife edges, hovering, and other manuevers on the sim as well as letting some of my students practice on it.. I also had a friend with Real Flight and spent a lot of time practicing on it.
About this same time, I bought a Great Planes Venus .40 and a Sig Someting Extra. The Venus was stretching the limits of my abilities, so I spent a lot of time on the SSE until I got more comfortable with the speed of the Venus.
Crashed the Venus due to radio failure or some other unkown. Sold the SSE and bought an Escapade. Loved the Escapade, but missed the SSE, so I bought another SSE. Still have it, also bought another Venus and by this time had plenty of skill to fly it. I still have the Venus and fly it regularly. I'm still not an expert pattern pilot, but I really enjoy trying!
Since then I have bought and traded many planes including Extras, Edges, Yaks, just about all WWII trainers and warbirds, and too many others to list.
To this day I am still practicing and trying to improve my skills and I still crash once in a while. If you're not crashing once in a while , you probably aren't pushing yourself any. But that's fine if you enjoy where you are. Sometimes all I do is fly my 1/4 scale Cub as slow as I can up and down the center of the runway, most of the time only about 3'' off the deck. Looks boring to others, but it's relaxing to me. That's what's important, do what you enjoy, don't worry about impressing anyone else!![img][/img]
Hope this helps.
Ok, I'll give you a brief summary of my progression. I started with a plane that no one should really start with. A Parkzone J-3 brushless. Crashed it many times and rebuilt it many times before I became skilled enough to fly it to its limits.
Bought a Hobbyzone Super Cub and figured out it was much easier to see and control than the J-3. Also bought a Slo-V and several of the Firebird variants. Still have Slo-v and Firebird Freedom. These were fine planes, but didn't really help me progress since they are also three channel planes.
Bought my first four channel plane, a Parkzone T-28, and learned rolls, stall turns, flying inverted, etc. Crashed it and repaired it several times in the process, usually from being too close to the ground while flying inverted. Also bought a Typhoon2 and loved it, but it really didn't help my flying skills progress any more than the T-28.
About this time I also experimented with LED's and started flying all of the above mentioned planes at night. I Still enjoy this immensely.
About this time I found a local club and learned about RCuniverse. By this time I was also getting very confident with the T-28 and was already teaching other people how to fly my Super Cub and J-3.
Flew an Avistar on a buddy box at the club, joined the club, bought my own Avistar, still fly it and teach with it, also bought two more Avistars, still have them all and use them to teach.
(Not that I am encouraging you to teach if that's not your cup of tea, but teaching others also improves your own skills and reflexes. But there is a risk and a price that may not be right for you)
The Avistar and the experienced fliers at the club really helped me progress and helped my skills and reflexes improve enough to move up to more advanced sport planes. I flew a few different ones that belonged to friends before I bought my own. These ''loaners'' included the Sig Something Extra, Super Sportster, Tango .40, Twist .40, and some others I can't even remember.
About this time I got a simulator for christmas (FSOne) and started practicing knife edges, hovering, and other manuevers on the sim as well as letting some of my students practice on it.. I also had a friend with Real Flight and spent a lot of time practicing on it.
About this same time, I bought a Great Planes Venus .40 and a Sig Someting Extra. The Venus was stretching the limits of my abilities, so I spent a lot of time on the SSE until I got more comfortable with the speed of the Venus.
Crashed the Venus due to radio failure or some other unkown. Sold the SSE and bought an Escapade. Loved the Escapade, but missed the SSE, so I bought another SSE. Still have it, also bought another Venus and by this time had plenty of skill to fly it. I still have the Venus and fly it regularly. I'm still not an expert pattern pilot, but I really enjoy trying!
Since then I have bought and traded many planes including Extras, Edges, Yaks, just about all WWII trainers and warbirds, and too many others to list.
To this day I am still practicing and trying to improve my skills and I still crash once in a while. If you're not crashing once in a while , you probably aren't pushing yourself any. But that's fine if you enjoy where you are. Sometimes all I do is fly my 1/4 scale Cub as slow as I can up and down the center of the runway, most of the time only about 3'' off the deck. Looks boring to others, but it's relaxing to me. That's what's important, do what you enjoy, don't worry about impressing anyone else!![img][/img]
Hope this helps.
12-27-2011 | 07:38 AM
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Not sure what you mean!
He asked for some of us to post our own progression of planes and skill, so I posted mine to the best of my ability to recall!
Obviously I don't recommend starting out exactly as I did, but I'm sure he can pick out what's relevant to him!
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Not sure what you mean!
He asked for some of us to post our own progression of planes and skill, so I posted mine to the best of my ability to recall!Obviously I don't recommend starting out exactly as I did, but I'm sure he can pick out what's relevant to him!
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12-27-2011 | 08:20 AM
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RE: Learning Progress to more manuvers , planes?
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; ">Second the Apprentice as a good first plane, and the Eflite T-34 as a second, they share the same battery packs. I bought the RTF T-34 and the RXR Apprentice and use the DX6i that came with the T-34 for the Apprentice too. I think a trainer that on full rate can loop inside itself is pretty darn cool. I have about a dozen flights on the Apprentice (haven't flown it since the repairs due to the barn getting in my way) and about 5 flights on the T-34. The T-34 is a bit more to handle than the Apprentice, but is no where near as difficult to fly plane as you might think for a low wing plane. <div>
</div><div>My winter project is a P-51 with a DLE20 and an as yet unknown high wing, possibly a cub, to work the kinks out of the DLE20 before the Mustang takes to the air. </div><div>
</div><div> I have only been at it for a year now, but my flying skills are getting pretty good thanks to the RF Sim and the Apprentice. At least now I know my left from my right when it is coming at me from my right. Last night I flew the Osprey in the RF Sim, took off, hovered, transitioned to forward flight, flew it around a few times, transitioned to heli, hovered, brought it to the runway and landed it, all with a 15 MPH crosswind in the mix. Now when I fly on the sim I have wind blowing, sometimes up to 20 MPH, which makes take offs and landing a real blast, thank goodness for the reset button. The Cub in that sim waggles on the runway while sitting still, and the takeoff were a handful with a crosswind, but she can hover quite nicely when coming right into the wind. I highly recommend the sim with the winds blowing, it helps the reaction time quite a bit. </div></div>
</div><div>My winter project is a P-51 with a DLE20 and an as yet unknown high wing, possibly a cub, to work the kinks out of the DLE20 before the Mustang takes to the air. </div><div>
</div><div> I have only been at it for a year now, but my flying skills are getting pretty good thanks to the RF Sim and the Apprentice. At least now I know my left from my right when it is coming at me from my right. Last night I flew the Osprey in the RF Sim, took off, hovered, transitioned to forward flight, flew it around a few times, transitioned to heli, hovered, brought it to the runway and landed it, all with a 15 MPH crosswind in the mix. Now when I fly on the sim I have wind blowing, sometimes up to 20 MPH, which makes take offs and landing a real blast, thank goodness for the reset button. The Cub in that sim waggles on the runway while sitting still, and the takeoff were a handful with a crosswind, but she can hover quite nicely when coming right into the wind. I highly recommend the sim with the winds blowing, it helps the reaction time quite a bit. </div></div>
12-27-2011 | 09:11 AM
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RE: Learning Progress to more manuvers , planes?
A buddy suggested flying lots of figure 8's when I was starting out. I gradually increased in speed and tightened them up, and worked on feeding in rudder. It helps with that left/right thing, and got me comfortable using all of the available control throws.
The Apprentice is effected by wind, but that can be a plus as you learn to handle it.
On really windy days a bunch of guys at the field would break out Handy Mans. Turns out the Handy King flies the same, just bigger, and is a lot of fun in the wind. When I got it I figured it would be more than I could handle at my experience level, but it quickly became a favorite.
The Apprentice is effected by wind, but that can be a plus as you learn to handle it.
On really windy days a bunch of guys at the field would break out Handy Mans. Turns out the Handy King flies the same, just bigger, and is a lot of fun in the wind. When I got it I figured it would be more than I could handle at my experience level, but it quickly became a favorite.
01-08-2012 | 03:04 PM
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Thanks for posting the progress guys, it is interesting to see the differing steps that we all take. Today had to be one of my best flying days yet.
9 planes and 0ver 20 flights , most of them were nice long flights too. A few very nice landings , 1 not so nice landing (I guess it is called a stall or wing stall?)
I'm doing lots more loops, rolls and inverted flights. My loops are getting bigger and more like a perfect circle. My rolls are getting a bit better, but are still junky. My inverted flight is getting a lot better , but I'm still a bit scared to do a lap inverted. I can do it on the sim real easy. I'll get it soon.
I have said that next season is the "sport plane" season for me , but I was able to maiden my 2nd Flylite and my Super sportster and flew them both twice. Guess which plane is my new favorite? The sportster. It's kinda small at 40" , but makes a very nice large loop and is very nice to fly.
I was also able to 2nd flight a few that I've been waiting on and troubleshoot a few too.
Flylite had 2 good flights and is trimmed and ready to train my first student.
Falcon had 1 nice slow flight and bent the nose wheel back AGAIN landing in grass. I can almost set it down on the trampoline , but am a bit scared.
Skyfly Max had 4-5 great noisy flights and hit the LVC finally at 15 minutes.
Switch w/ high wing had 4-5 very nice flights , some aggressive and a lot of inverted. I am ready for the low wing swap. It's nice to fly 15-20 minutes on this.
4' Piper Cub had 1 boring (first) flight for 16 minutes.
2' Mini piper had another poor problem flight for 5 minutes diagnosing it and fighting with trims.
Sensei had 2 nice long flights with lots of loops and some inverted. 2 decent landings , but caught the rear stab on an invisible tree I forgot about. Tore it in two and landed nicely.
3' Piper had maiden flight since BL conversion and still has bad problem. Spent flight trying to diagnose.
Super Sportster had 2 good flights 8 minutes and then 15 minutes. Nice plane.
Can't remember the rest , but all in all a good day for me.
9 planes and 0ver 20 flights , most of them were nice long flights too. A few very nice landings , 1 not so nice landing (I guess it is called a stall or wing stall?)
I'm doing lots more loops, rolls and inverted flights. My loops are getting bigger and more like a perfect circle. My rolls are getting a bit better, but are still junky. My inverted flight is getting a lot better , but I'm still a bit scared to do a lap inverted. I can do it on the sim real easy. I'll get it soon.
I have said that next season is the "sport plane" season for me , but I was able to maiden my 2nd Flylite and my Super sportster and flew them both twice. Guess which plane is my new favorite? The sportster. It's kinda small at 40" , but makes a very nice large loop and is very nice to fly.
I was also able to 2nd flight a few that I've been waiting on and troubleshoot a few too.
Flylite had 2 good flights and is trimmed and ready to train my first student.
Falcon had 1 nice slow flight and bent the nose wheel back AGAIN landing in grass. I can almost set it down on the trampoline , but am a bit scared.
Skyfly Max had 4-5 great noisy flights and hit the LVC finally at 15 minutes.
Switch w/ high wing had 4-5 very nice flights , some aggressive and a lot of inverted. I am ready for the low wing swap. It's nice to fly 15-20 minutes on this.
4' Piper Cub had 1 boring (first) flight for 16 minutes.
2' Mini piper had another poor problem flight for 5 minutes diagnosing it and fighting with trims.
Sensei had 2 nice long flights with lots of loops and some inverted. 2 decent landings , but caught the rear stab on an invisible tree I forgot about. Tore it in two and landed nicely.
3' Piper had maiden flight since BL conversion and still has bad problem. Spent flight trying to diagnose.
Super Sportster had 2 good flights 8 minutes and then 15 minutes. Nice plane.
Can't remember the rest , but all in all a good day for me.
01-08-2012 | 03:07 PM
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Next planes to get ready are The Pluma, Yak 54 3-D, Focke-wulff , electro-stik , a mini-stik , 2 Cox minis and the Corvalis. They are all here except for the mini-stik. Time to make another plane rack, lol. [X(]
01-08-2012 | 03:10 PM
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ORIGINAL: jetmech05
I think there is one basic manuver you must master to start to get good and a trainer is perfect for it....if you can master this move with a trainer then you can do this move on any airplane at will....the manuver is inverted flight....don't just roll her over on her back and say there you go....no fly the whole pattern inverted.....Word of caution though.....when inverted and in doubt roll out.....always roll out of inverted flight...don't loop out....the ground will be alot closer than you think....I've seen a couple of good crashes from guys looping out of inverted flight....Good Luck....oh yea the ailerons..are the same inverted
I think there is one basic manuver you must master to start to get good and a trainer is perfect for it....if you can master this move with a trainer then you can do this move on any airplane at will....the manuver is inverted flight....don't just roll her over on her back and say there you go....no fly the whole pattern inverted.....Word of caution though.....when inverted and in doubt roll out.....always roll out of inverted flight...don't loop out....the ground will be alot closer than you think....I've seen a couple of good crashes from guys looping out of inverted flight....Good Luck....oh yea the ailerons..are the same inverted
I think if I can do this and some nice 3-D I'll be well on my way. 
01-08-2012 | 03:47 PM
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ORIGINAL: guver
I think this is going to be KEY for me. Someone rated it 5 stars , good job. I surely don't have it yet. I think if I can do this and some nice 3-D I'll be well on my way.
ORIGINAL: jetmech05
I think there is one basic manuver you must master to start to get good and a trainer is perfect for it....if you can master this move with a trainer then you can do this move on any airplane at will....the manuver is inverted flight....don't just roll her over on her back and say there you go....no fly the whole pattern inverted.....Word of caution though.....when inverted and in doubt roll out.....always roll out of inverted flight...don't loop out....the ground will be alot closer than you think....I've seen a couple of good crashes from guys looping out of inverted flight....Good Luck....oh yea the ailerons..are the same inverted
I think there is one basic manuver you must master to start to get good and a trainer is perfect for it....if you can master this move with a trainer then you can do this move on any airplane at will....the manuver is inverted flight....don't just roll her over on her back and say there you go....no fly the whole pattern inverted.....Word of caution though.....when inverted and in doubt roll out.....always roll out of inverted flight...don't loop out....the ground will be alot closer than you think....I've seen a couple of good crashes from guys looping out of inverted flight....Good Luck....oh yea the ailerons..are the same inverted
I think if I can do this and some nice 3-D I'll be well on my way.
Also found a plane to put my DLE20 in. 6 foot span, should be a nice gentle flyer for breaking the motor in. www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10898465/anchors_10898478/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#10898478
02-06-2012 | 03:13 PM
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RE: Learning Progress to more manuvers , planes?
A couple of nice days of flying. A dozen flights on each day. I only used 4 planes , and even flew a couple of my "problem planes" that I just hate. I flew my first inverted lap finally , did it on 2 different planes. I notice that in my notes I'm starting to write stuff down like "increase aileron travel" and "increase rudder travel" I'm noticing that I am bottom the sticks out a lot now. I never dreamed that in the beginning of February I'd be having such a blast. Yippee.
08-30-2012 | 06:13 PM
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RE: Learning Progress to more manuvers , planes?
Well I guess I've been flying so much this summer that I had no time to update. I've been flying,flying,assembling,flying.
Mostly working now on knife edge and inverted stuff still. My vision and the wind seems to be the biggest hurdles. My landings are almost always very nice EXCEPT WHEN HAVING TO LAND WITH THE WIND OR IN A STRONG CROSS WIND. I just don't seem to enjoy flying in the wind at all, it seems too much work. I like to be able to watch level flight with no stick movements too much.
4' Piper fly once per week.
SkyFly Max once per week.
Skyfly2 finally got it to fly because of CG was too far back. It's actually a nice flyer.
Switch flew the crap out of it in low wing config and pretty much crashed and wore it out. It is so bad I moved the wind back up to use as a trainer. Much fun and it demos my skills the best.
3' Piper converted to BL is way over-powered and fly it once per month.
2' Piper is overpower and hard to fly once per month or less. Hate it.
Nexstar mini , removed the trainer flaps and ready for 3rd flight. Crashed it and gave it up.
Sensei , pretty good at it. Fly it nearly every morning or at least 6 times per week. I love it.
Cessna 182 ready for 2nd flight, but need to straigten motor shaft. Never fly it, hate it.
Falcon , a bit fragile and only fly it once per month in the calm days. Don't really like it.
Cox skyranger too boring. Nice newb plane.
Cox extra 300 ready to maiden STILL.
Flylite will give lessons with it, kinda boring and slow.
Don't really fly any micros , but have a F-86 ready to go.
E-stik is my most powerful and I'm still a bit sheepish with it, but it's fun.
FW 190 just flew it 6 times today after it's maiden flight a few days ago , and I really like it. Kinda hard too see. Six 10 minute flights in 100 minutes with the same battery , yea. It was great fun till the TX battery went to beeping and needed recharged.
Millennium Master is really cool and it has about a couple dozen flights on it. I like it very much. Kinda hard too see. I fly it almost every other day.
Corvalis 350 I hate it , but it's ok on calm days. It was twisted and used when I bought it. I wish it was gone. Fly 1 time per week.
40" super sportster is really nice and I enjoy it very much, I'd recommend it for anyone. Fly 2-4 times per week.
GP PLuma I tool it around at dusk trying to practise 3-D , NOT. Going ok really.
I'm sure I forgot a few. Next up is a real balsa KIT. I'm actually going to try building one. In the meantime I'll fly a sequence soon. Hmm, nothing more to maiden except that small extra 300 COX plane. Time to shop. My garage is so full of planes that I better get rid of many soon. I'm trying to give them to students if I ever gt to letting them get to flying.
Mostly working now on knife edge and inverted stuff still. My vision and the wind seems to be the biggest hurdles. My landings are almost always very nice EXCEPT WHEN HAVING TO LAND WITH THE WIND OR IN A STRONG CROSS WIND. I just don't seem to enjoy flying in the wind at all, it seems too much work. I like to be able to watch level flight with no stick movements too much.
4' Piper fly once per week.
SkyFly Max once per week.
Skyfly2 finally got it to fly because of CG was too far back. It's actually a nice flyer.
Switch flew the crap out of it in low wing config and pretty much crashed and wore it out. It is so bad I moved the wind back up to use as a trainer. Much fun and it demos my skills the best.
3' Piper converted to BL is way over-powered and fly it once per month.
2' Piper is overpower and hard to fly once per month or less. Hate it.
Nexstar mini , removed the trainer flaps and ready for 3rd flight. Crashed it and gave it up.
Sensei , pretty good at it. Fly it nearly every morning or at least 6 times per week. I love it.
Cessna 182 ready for 2nd flight, but need to straigten motor shaft. Never fly it, hate it.
Falcon , a bit fragile and only fly it once per month in the calm days. Don't really like it.
Cox skyranger too boring. Nice newb plane.
Cox extra 300 ready to maiden STILL.
Flylite will give lessons with it, kinda boring and slow.
Don't really fly any micros , but have a F-86 ready to go.
E-stik is my most powerful and I'm still a bit sheepish with it, but it's fun.
FW 190 just flew it 6 times today after it's maiden flight a few days ago , and I really like it. Kinda hard too see. Six 10 minute flights in 100 minutes with the same battery , yea. It was great fun till the TX battery went to beeping and needed recharged.
Millennium Master is really cool and it has about a couple dozen flights on it. I like it very much. Kinda hard too see. I fly it almost every other day.
Corvalis 350 I hate it , but it's ok on calm days. It was twisted and used when I bought it. I wish it was gone. Fly 1 time per week.
40" super sportster is really nice and I enjoy it very much, I'd recommend it for anyone. Fly 2-4 times per week.
GP PLuma I tool it around at dusk trying to practise 3-D , NOT. Going ok really.
I'm sure I forgot a few. Next up is a real balsa KIT. I'm actually going to try building one. In the meantime I'll fly a sequence soon. Hmm, nothing more to maiden except that small extra 300 COX plane. Time to shop. My garage is so full of planes that I better get rid of many soon. I'm trying to give them to students if I ever gt to letting them get to flying.
08-30-2012 | 07:01 PM
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RE: Learning Progress to more manuvers , planes?
I only have 5 planes, and only really fly 2. Kadet LT40 and 4*120. Doing some repairs to the 4*, so only have 1 that I would fly right now.
