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Old 07-16-2002 | 12:37 AM
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Default Which mode?

I'm reentering the hobby after a 15 year layoff. I learned in the popular "Mode 2". There are a number of fliers at the club field that I have decided to join who fly "Mode 4". They swap the elevator and the rudder so that you turn with the left hand (ailerons) and control altitude with the right (elevator). I tried it yesterday and must say that it presented no problems. Does anyone have any experience with this mode after learning in Mode 2?
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Default Which mode?

Fly what you are comfortable with. I would not recommend going back and forth between modes. In case of an emergency, you will do what your instincts tell you and that could be rudder instead of elevator. This could cause you to re-kit your plane!
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Default Which mode?

Stay with Mode 2 if you can. There may be times when you will fly another's plane and going back and forth will be confusing and could cause you to crash.

Mode 2 is flown by over 90% of all flyer's and you'll find it easier.

I trained on Mode 1 and had problems changing to Mode 2, but glad Idid.
Old 07-16-2002 | 09:48 AM
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ALSO WITH THE MAJORITY OF FLYER'S THAT FLY MODE ONE, IF YOU GET IN TROUBLE AND ASK FOR HELP, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO. A GUY AT OUR FIELD HAD SOMETHING IN HUS EYE AND I WAS GOING TO TAKE THE RADIO TO RELIEVE HIM FOR A MOMENT BUT COULDN'T. HE WAS ON MODE ONE AND NOBODY AT THE FIELD THAT DAY FLEW THAT MODE. THINK ABOUT IT.
Old 07-16-2002 | 10:24 AM
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Default Which mode?

Iwould guess if one slowed the plane down, and went to low rates most pilots could get a plane down in any mode, as it might take a few laps to become familiar but no problem.
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Default Which mode?

When I think about it maybe the question should be: Does anyone see an advantage or disadvantage to flying Mode 4? - aileron and throttle on the left stick with rudder and elevator on the right stick.
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Default Which mode?

Okay, what did I miss? How, when swapping elevator and rudder, do the ailerons end up on the left stick??
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Default Which mode?

O.K. assuming you meant "swap ailerons and rudder from Mode 2" I can't see any real disadvantages, particularly if plenty of people around you use the same odd mode. You can learn or relearn any way you like.

OTOH I can't see any real advantages either. I prefer the main flight controls on one stick but if you don't then go for it.

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Old 07-19-2002 | 12:53 PM
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Okay, what did I miss? How, when swapping elevator and rudder, do the ailerons end up on the left stick??....
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Plugged aileron in rudder slot & rudder in aileron slot on reciever.
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Default Which mode?

Hello!
I think most fliers the world over uses mod 2!
That is ailerons and elevators on the right stick and throttle and side rudder on the left stick.
The reason for this is that most people are right handed...
and as such we want to have the most important/dominant functions coupled to the right stick, and on an airplane that is ailerons and elevator!! In Sweden I have never seen or heard anyone using anything else than mode 2 in all my 27 years of modelflying.

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Default Which mode?

Originally posted by jaka
Hello!
I think most fliers the world over uses mod 2!
That is ailerons and elevators on the right stick and throttle and side rudder on the left stick.
The reason for this is that most people are right handed...
and as such we want to have the most important/dominant functions coupled to the right stick, and on an airplane that is ailerons and elevator!! In Sweden I have never seen or heard anyone using anything else than mode 2 in all my 27 years of modelflying.

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Look again Jan,
There is an awefull lot of people using Mode I in Europe as there are a lot of people in North America using Mode I, The majority is using Mode 2 because when they join, everyone else in their club is using Mode 2. I have used Mode 2 then Mode I before that I used a single stick.
The bottom line is to use what you like to use.

I loved mode I and now on mode two, but I regret going to mode two, because I felt smoother with mode I, but that's just me.
With mode 2, I fly with the tray and no one else can fly my plane anyway, so no real addvantage.
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Default Which mode?

The way it was explained to me, by a guy who flies mode 1, is that
it was easier to transition to, from the older radios that had switches
instead of gimbals with proportional controls in the plane.

Lots of mode 1 flyers at my club, too. So many that, when I made my
re-entry a couple weeks ago, there were four guys there and not
one of them could buddy box with me because I was the only one flying mode 2.
Good thing it all came rushing back, I guess I was *not* leaving without flying.
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Default Which mode?

In North America almost everyone flies mode 2, but a lot of the rest of the world flies mode 1. The supposed advantage of mode 2 is that the right stick is similar to the stick in a real aircraft. The supposed advantage of mode 1 is more precision because you are using both hands for your primary controls. To be quite honest I don't think that it makes all that much difference. Personally, I use Mode 1.

I would recommend setting up your radio for the same mode as most of the people in your area.............
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Default Which mode?

After reading your message, are you left handed?
If no, I would recommend that you fly mode 1
If I am not mistaken aileron and rudder on right
This will allow you to coordinate turns and to adjust for yaw when ailerons are applied and roll with rudder.

Having throttle and elevator on one side will allow you to manage power with one stick. After seeing pilots fly Mode 1, I don't know why we as a nation ever adopted Mode 2????

When I think about it maybe the question should be: Does anyone see an advantage or disadvantage to flying Mode 4? - aileron and throttle on the left stick with rudder and elevator on the right stick.
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I can't emagine throtle and elevator on the same stick[Mode 1?]The throtle goes up and does the elevator go right and left how does this work? same on the right stick rudder right and left and ailerons up and down?I think sombody is mixed up.
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Default Which mode?

If it were not for the fact that my son and I fly the same airplanes I think I would try mode 4[ left stick throtle and ailerons and right stick elevator and rudder] I believe it would be more natural to control the plane with right stick for most manuvering and come in with ailerons with left stick when desired. Since my son flys the same planes on mode 2 I will have to stay tyhere too
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Default Which mode?

Originally posted by rctrax
I can't emagine throtle and elevator on the same stick[Mode 1?]The throtle goes up and does the elevator go right and left how does this work? same on the right stick rudder right and left and ailerons up and down?I think sombody is mixed up.
No, No, Mode I, Throttle and airleron on the right stick and ruder and elvator on the left stick.
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Default Which mode?

The way I was taught it, the modes are:

Mode 1 - Ailerons and Throttle on right stick
Elevator and Rudder on left stick

Mode 2 - Ailerons and Elevator on right stick
throttle and rudder on left stick

Mode 3 - "Reverse Mode 1"
Elevator and Rudder on right stick
Ailerons and Throttle on left stick

Mode 4 - "Reverse Mode 2"
Throttle and Rudder on right stick
Ailerons and Elevator on left stick

Single Stick (Maybe we dhould name this Mode 5 ???)

Anyway, my instructor learned to fly RC while he was on a project in Mexico. They fly Mode 1 there.

Although all my flying of my planes is in Mode 1, I instruct new flyers. Since everyone around here wants to fly Mode 2, that is what I teach.

I prefer Mode 1 for my flying because I can be a wee bit sloppy with the movement of the aileron stick and not input any elevator to the plane. Another thing I like is that since elevator is on the same stick as rudder, I am real comfortable using rudder. When teaching new pilots, most of whom are right handed, I find that they tend to want to set the throttle at a comfortable speed and then fly solely right handed. It becomes a real challenge to get them to learn to use their left hand and find out the value of using rudder.

Having said all this, a key to RC flying, as I see it, is learning to use a system that is comfortable for you.

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