Jitters!!!
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These forums are so much more useful when you can both READ and COMPREHEND......before you reply.
Sorry you are so bitter, Dog-Boy.
No futher assistance is needed from you.
Thank You for sharing your wisdom and experience. I will cherish it always.
Sorry you are so bitter, Dog-Boy.
No futher assistance is needed from you.
Thank You for sharing your wisdom and experience. I will cherish it always.
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Snoop, you are one of the most cynical people on this board. Why don't you go over to the giant forum, or some other more "expert" forum so that people can laugh at your stupid ideas, and quit discouraging the beginners. If you have nothing to say that is helpful, then get off the beginners forum. I can definitely see why you don't instruct.
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One thing about this board is we are all entitled to our opinion until somebody like yourself just went and got personal with name calling and cause threads to be shut down. If you don't like what is said then stay out of it. When you've been around here more that 8 times, then start whining. I spoke the truth and history shows that is not appreciated so deal with it. I am not the one making this an issue.
ORIGINAL: grandad1
Snoop dummy, you are one of the most cynical people on this board. Why don't you go over to the giant forum, or some other more "expert" forum so that people can laugh at your stupid ideas, and quit discouraging the beginners. If you have nothing to say that is helpful, then get off the beginners forum. I can definitely see why you don't instruct.
Snoop dummy, you are one of the most cynical people on this board. Why don't you go over to the giant forum, or some other more "expert" forum so that people can laugh at your stupid ideas, and quit discouraging the beginners. If you have nothing to say that is helpful, then get off the beginners forum. I can definitely see why you don't instruct.
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I must admit, I do not know what this sad little man is talking about. I started this thread by asking for some help from those more experienced. Dog's first reply did not address a single related subject. And frankly, it was inappropriate, offensive and rude I am sure that he had a point, but....... Well let's just say that public education is woefully inadequate, and was so even way back then.
Now, if I were a younger, less accomplished man; those comments would likely have sent me to another hobby.
I have a request for Dog and people like him:
Please, if you truly believe that you are too good for beginners, read and participate in other forums.
I am proud to be a new member of a good club with many fine instructors and a strict policy regarding behavior. People who act in an offensive and disrespectful manner are politely asked to leave the club. Now I know WHY they put such language into the bylaws.
It really is too bad that we are forced to deal with such attitudes in life, but is inevitable. I do, however, also believe that we learn much more about the character, or lack of such in a person when they act in such disdainful ways.
One comment I have:
For anyone to think that the duration of their presence on a message board or forum entitles them to act in a disrespectful and offensive manner to those with a shorter time of participation is simply laughable. I thought military men were respectful, dedicated and proud. I know almost all of them are.
Now, if I were a younger, less accomplished man; those comments would likely have sent me to another hobby.
I have a request for Dog and people like him:
Please, if you truly believe that you are too good for beginners, read and participate in other forums.
I am proud to be a new member of a good club with many fine instructors and a strict policy regarding behavior. People who act in an offensive and disrespectful manner are politely asked to leave the club. Now I know WHY they put such language into the bylaws.
It really is too bad that we are forced to deal with such attitudes in life, but is inevitable. I do, however, also believe that we learn much more about the character, or lack of such in a person when they act in such disdainful ways.
One comment I have:
For anyone to think that the duration of their presence on a message board or forum entitles them to act in a disrespectful and offensive manner to those with a shorter time of participation is simply laughable. I thought military men were respectful, dedicated and proud. I know almost all of them are.
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Yo Dog Boy!
You know every instructor has their own methods of teaching. I was taught to fly without a buddy box. My instructor preferred that method cause he believed most people learning to fly were too confident with the buddy box. It was more of a challenge, but it can be done. You shouldn't get upset at this guy cause his instructor had him fly high and without a buddy box. Get all the facts before you start making assumptions.
You know every instructor has their own methods of teaching. I was taught to fly without a buddy box. My instructor preferred that method cause he believed most people learning to fly were too confident with the buddy box. It was more of a challenge, but it can be done. You shouldn't get upset at this guy cause his instructor had him fly high and without a buddy box. Get all the facts before you start making assumptions.
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Snoop Doggy Bag,
Don't confuse the number of posts with the amount of experience and/or knowledge. In my case I've been flying and instructing since the early 80's but just recently started looking at this site. I also read a lot of posts before I stuck my first 2 cents in and tried to make them worth reading. Unfortunately, I have found little value in your comments and will let it go at that.
Have a nice day,
Bruce
P.S. What kind of name is Snoop Doggy Bag for a grown man?
Don't confuse the number of posts with the amount of experience and/or knowledge. In my case I've been flying and instructing since the early 80's but just recently started looking at this site. I also read a lot of posts before I stuck my first 2 cents in and tried to make them worth reading. Unfortunately, I have found little value in your comments and will let it go at that.
Have a nice day,
Bruce

P.S. What kind of name is Snoop Doggy Bag for a grown man?
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Well you and Grandpa just don't know when to quit do you. You guys are the ones upset not me. So what if you learned with no buddy box and the facts were clearly written out. This is not twenty, thirty or forty years ago. We have technology now that can all but avoid having to go out and do this. If your second tx was computer, would you still use the throttle trim to shut the engine off or an assigned kill switch. Why take the risk , it does not have to happen.
I see this all the time considering the amount of people who fly in my area. One guy showed up early and our local instructor showed up at his due time an hour later. Mr Confident who had had several previous flights with this instructor already, was packing up what was left of his plane. Did not have to happen. Your right, every instructor has is own method. If he was held accountable for every plane he causes to crash, maybe his methods would change.
As I recall you also stated for him to get and instructor and a buddy box? So whats the problem here?
"What kind of name is "Snoop Doggy Bag" for a grown man? Well think about it, I am obviosly not a "c-rap fan."
I see this all the time considering the amount of people who fly in my area. One guy showed up early and our local instructor showed up at his due time an hour later. Mr Confident who had had several previous flights with this instructor already, was packing up what was left of his plane. Did not have to happen. Your right, every instructor has is own method. If he was held accountable for every plane he causes to crash, maybe his methods would change.
As I recall you also stated for him to get and instructor and a buddy box? So whats the problem here?
"What kind of name is "Snoop Doggy Bag" for a grown man? Well think about it, I am obviosly not a "c-rap fan."
ORIGINAL: RDMoore
Yo Dog Boy!
You know every instructor has their own methods of teaching. I was taught to fly without a buddy box. My instructor preferred that method cause he believed most people learning to fly were too confident with the buddy box. It was more of a challenge, but it can be done. You shouldn't get upset at this guy cause his instructor had him fly high and without a buddy box. Get all the facts before you start making assumptions.
Yo Dog Boy!
You know every instructor has their own methods of teaching. I was taught to fly without a buddy box. My instructor preferred that method cause he believed most people learning to fly were too confident with the buddy box. It was more of a challenge, but it can be done. You shouldn't get upset at this guy cause his instructor had him fly high and without a buddy box. Get all the facts before you start making assumptions.
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Snoop,
First- I am not the least bit upset
Second- I was self taught because there was no known club in my area when I decided to learn to fly.
Third- I would have gladly learned on a buddy box as I went through several planes while learning to just be adequate. Fortunately I flew in an area where I wouldn't hurt anything but myself.
Fourth- I have both computer and non-computer radios and know how to use both quite well, thank you.
Fifth- At my field, where I am chief instructor, we insist on the buddy box system. By the way this was at my insistence. I also personally went out and bought buddy boxes for all of the major brands so that no matter what brand a student showed up with I would be prepared. I share them with the other instructors if needed.
Sixth- My students know what time I will arrive and that they are not allowed to fly without an instructor, under penalty of dismissal from the club. I have yet to be late for an appointment with a student and am usually early.
Seventh- When an instructor error is responsible for a crash in our club he does assist in repairs to the plane. Such repairs are usually minimal due to our using buddy boxes.
Eighth- Please don't respond. I am through with your uninformed trash talk. As I said before, have a nice day. I have to go meet a student pilot now and quit wasting my time with you.
Bruce
First- I am not the least bit upset
Second- I was self taught because there was no known club in my area when I decided to learn to fly.
Third- I would have gladly learned on a buddy box as I went through several planes while learning to just be adequate. Fortunately I flew in an area where I wouldn't hurt anything but myself.
Fourth- I have both computer and non-computer radios and know how to use both quite well, thank you.
Fifth- At my field, where I am chief instructor, we insist on the buddy box system. By the way this was at my insistence. I also personally went out and bought buddy boxes for all of the major brands so that no matter what brand a student showed up with I would be prepared. I share them with the other instructors if needed.
Sixth- My students know what time I will arrive and that they are not allowed to fly without an instructor, under penalty of dismissal from the club. I have yet to be late for an appointment with a student and am usually early.
Seventh- When an instructor error is responsible for a crash in our club he does assist in repairs to the plane. Such repairs are usually minimal due to our using buddy boxes.
Eighth- Please don't respond. I am through with your uninformed trash talk. As I said before, have a nice day. I have to go meet a student pilot now and quit wasting my time with you.
Bruce
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I know crashes are a part of the hobby, but I am thinking I may not be able to pick this skill up. My second lesson is Monday......my first was ok, but I realized how far I have to go. (my first lesson was a, way too high, no buddy-box, circle the field kind of thing).
I know crashes are a part of the hobby, but I am thinking I may not be able to pick this skill up. My second lesson is Monday......my first was ok, but I realized how far I have to go. (my first lesson was a, way too high, no buddy-box, circle the field kind of thing).
Oh yes ... I teach w/oa Buddy Box ... I also have to get my student to fly high. Its ok to teach w/o a buddy box ... but it will be kinda hairy when it comes to teaching the student to land. You need to make sure that the student can really fly in a certain direction properly.
Oh yes guys ... let's forget the squabbling. I hear there is this IGNORE function some where in here!
Hey Snoop ... what's with you too? I don't mean you are being rude or anything but you are usually more tolerant!!!
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Good advice-follow it.
ORIGINAL: piper_chuck
Snoop, there's an old adage, if you've got nothing good to say, say nothing at all. Perhaps this is a case where you should follow that adage. I thought the beginner's forum was a place to encourage, not disparage, beginners.
Snoop, there's an old adage, if you've got nothing good to say, say nothing at all. Perhaps this is a case where you should follow that adage. I thought the beginner's forum was a place to encourage, not disparage, beginners.



