First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
03-14-2006 | 03:18 PM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
Ya, I thought 'bout retracts too.
I'd like them to have the forward position that the current gear has tho to prevent nose-overs.
If you find something with enough length for clearance of the prop, I'd sure like to know about it!
I bought a 10 X 6 - 2 blade prop to test also I'm Planning to add flap servo and external charger socket.
I'd like them to have the forward position that the current gear has tho to prevent nose-overs.
If you find something with enough length for clearance of the prop, I'd sure like to know about it!
I bought a 10 X 6 - 2 blade prop to test also I'm Planning to add flap servo and external charger socket.
03-14-2006 | 04:09 PM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
I found the 10 X 6 to let the engine over rev. Also blue lock tite the bolt that holds the carb on, the screws to the firewall and the collars on the wheels. I lost one or more of all these parts. I made it completely through my training on one 11X6 prop. The things i didn’t lock tite I got to replace. I have no complaints with this bird (once i got use to it) it looks good and is fun to fly.
03-14-2006 | 04:14 PM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
On my P-51 PTS, I adjusted all the clevises to center with the radio on but now with the radio off the control surfaces do not line up. When I turn the radio on, they all line back up.
My question is:
Will the radio's function called "sub-trim" return the servos to the neutral position and make the control surfaces even whether the radio is on or off?
My question is:
Will the radio's function called "sub-trim" return the servos to the neutral position and make the control surfaces even whether the radio is on or off?
03-14-2006 | 04:40 PM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
While a 10-6 2-blade prop is not wildly out of sight, it is a bit thin for that engine. It makes a good break-in prop, but revs will be pretty high for normal buzzing around (although it will make the 'stang go pretty fast).
A 10-7 2-blade is also good if you want speed & will keep the revs in sight (it will also land a bit faster) and an 11-6 2-blade is really good. However, an 11-5 2-blade is probably the best all-around prop for that bird & engine combo -- plenty of speed, strong acceleration (good take-off & climb), decent aero braking for deceleration & a nice slow approach speed at idle.
A 10-7 2-blade is also good if you want speed & will keep the revs in sight (it will also land a bit faster) and an 11-6 2-blade is really good. However, an 11-5 2-blade is probably the best all-around prop for that bird & engine combo -- plenty of speed, strong acceleration (good take-off & climb), decent aero braking for deceleration & a nice slow approach speed at idle.
03-14-2006 | 06:06 PM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
ORIGINAL: riddell
On my P-51 PTS, I adjusted all the clevises to center with the radio on but now with the radio off the control surfaces do not line up. When I turn the radio on, they all line back up.
My question is:
Will the radio's function called "sub-trim" return the servos to the neutral position and make the control surfaces even whether the radio is on or off?
On my P-51 PTS, I adjusted all the clevises to center with the radio on but now with the radio off the control surfaces do not line up. When I turn the radio on, they all line back up.
My question is:
Will the radio's function called "sub-trim" return the servos to the neutral position and make the control surfaces even whether the radio is on or off?
You can use the sub-trim to position the servos so that you can re-center the trim levers/trim display. Can't remember if you have electronic or mechanical trim levers.
03-14-2006 | 08:23 PM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
ORIGINAL: riddell
Got my P-51 PTS yesterday. I assembled it in one evening with no problems. The balance is a bit nose heavy.
Does anyone know what the weighted disk is for that sits behind the spinner backplate ? Has anyone removed it and flown the plane?
Got my P-51 PTS yesterday. I assembled it in one evening with no problems. The balance is a bit nose heavy.
Does anyone know what the weighted disk is for that sits behind the spinner backplate ? Has anyone removed it and flown the plane?
I would leave the flywheel for a while, you can take it out later, it helps the motor for better idling.
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03-15-2006 | 10:55 PM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
If you turn your TX off before you turn your RX off the control surfaces will flutter...turn the RX off first and then the TX, the control surfaces will stay centered.
03-16-2006 | 06:43 AM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
Getting ready for my P-51 PTS maiden flight this weekend.
I fixed the nose heavy problem by swapping the positions of the Rx and battery pack, then pushed them as far back as I could in the compartment. This seems to balance the plane so it is just slightly nose heavy.
I set the control surface throws. All required a max setting on the radio of +150% except the ailerons which needed +75% to achieve the proper throw.
For the maiden flight I plan on using zero degree flaps and I've removed the air brakes.
I'll post a post flight report with pics.
I fixed the nose heavy problem by swapping the positions of the Rx and battery pack, then pushed them as far back as I could in the compartment. This seems to balance the plane so it is just slightly nose heavy.
I set the control surface throws. All required a max setting on the radio of +150% except the ailerons which needed +75% to achieve the proper throw.
For the maiden flight I plan on using zero degree flaps and I've removed the air brakes.
I'll post a post flight report with pics.
03-16-2006 | 08:29 AM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
Good luck. The first thing my instructor did was tell me to raise the flaps. If you have never flown an RC plane before this is going to be good. What I have found with my training with this plane is:
1. She is faster then a normal trainer.
2. You land under power at all times.
3. Ground handling can be a wild ride.
All these things made me a better pilot. If you get a good instructor you won’t have any problems with this bird.
1. She is faster then a normal trainer.
2. You land under power at all times.
3. Ground handling can be a wild ride.
All these things made me a better pilot. If you get a good instructor you won’t have any problems with this bird.
04-23-2006 | 06:39 PM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
I just had the opportunity to maiden a PTS (RTF) for a friend of mine today. We pulled the speed brakes but left the droops on & flaps down.
We had a fun time getting the engine to run. The low speed needle valve was almost 2 turns away from anywhere that would let it run at anything lower than 1/2 throttle.
Once we got the engine running halfway decent it was flying time. There was a 5-10 MPH crosswind which didn't bother my Sig Somethin Extra so I figured we'd be OK. As soon as I hit the throttle the tail popped up & it weather vaned straight into the wind & full right rudder was all but ignored by the plane. It did get airborn & the flight was uneventful from there on but I was absolutely shocked at how difficult it was to take off in a crosswind.
The overall flight characteristics were very graceful & forgiving. I personally felt the control surfaces could have used a little more deflection, but hey it is a trainer.
The landing was extremely graceful right up until touchdown. It greased right in but as soon as it started to slow down that darn crosswind again spun it around like a top. No damage because it was after it was on the ground. just annoying
We did 3 more flights & every single takeoff & landing did the exact same thing. I even went full right rudder prior to gunning it & it shot left (wind was from left) every time. It also spun out on every landing.
So from my intermediate experience opinion it did everything a trainer should do in the air and on approach and landing, but the ground handling was worse than any plane I've ever flown. I was doing some major clinching on every takeoff because we have a row of trees to the left of our runway, I headed straight at them every time. [X(]
We had a fun time getting the engine to run. The low speed needle valve was almost 2 turns away from anywhere that would let it run at anything lower than 1/2 throttle.
Once we got the engine running halfway decent it was flying time. There was a 5-10 MPH crosswind which didn't bother my Sig Somethin Extra so I figured we'd be OK. As soon as I hit the throttle the tail popped up & it weather vaned straight into the wind & full right rudder was all but ignored by the plane. It did get airborn & the flight was uneventful from there on but I was absolutely shocked at how difficult it was to take off in a crosswind.
The overall flight characteristics were very graceful & forgiving. I personally felt the control surfaces could have used a little more deflection, but hey it is a trainer.
The landing was extremely graceful right up until touchdown. It greased right in but as soon as it started to slow down that darn crosswind again spun it around like a top. No damage because it was after it was on the ground. just annoying
We did 3 more flights & every single takeoff & landing did the exact same thing. I even went full right rudder prior to gunning it & it shot left (wind was from left) every time. It also spun out on every landing.
So from my intermediate experience opinion it did everything a trainer should do in the air and on approach and landing, but the ground handling was worse than any plane I've ever flown. I was doing some major clinching on every takeoff because we have a row of trees to the left of our runway, I headed straight at them every time. [X(]
04-23-2006 | 10:18 PM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
ORIGINAL: tuwood
I just had the opportunity to maiden a PTS (RTF) for a friend of mine today. We pulled the speed brakes but left the droops on & flaps down.
We had a fun time getting the engine to run. The low speed needle valve was almost 2 turns away from anywhere that would let it run at anything lower than 1/2 throttle.
Once we got the engine running halfway decent it was flying time. There was a 5-10 MPH crosswind which didn't bother my Sig Somethin Extra so I figured we'd be OK. As soon as I hit the throttle the tail popped up & it weather vaned straight into the wind & full right rudder was all but ignored by the plane. It did get airborn & the flight was uneventful from there on but I was absolutely shocked at how difficult it was to take off in a crosswind.
The overall flight characteristics were very graceful & forgiving. I personally felt the control surfaces could have used a little more deflection, but hey it is a trainer.
The landing was extremely graceful right up until touchdown. It greased right in but as soon as it started to slow down that darn crosswind again spun it around like a top. No damage because it was after it was on the ground. just annoying
We did 3 more flights & every single takeoff & landing did the exact same thing. I even went full right rudder prior to gunning it & it shot left (wind was from left) every time. It also spun out on every landing.
So from my intermediate experience opinion it did everything a trainer should do in the air and on approach and landing, but the ground handling was worse than any plane I've ever flown. I was doing some major clinching on every takeoff because we have a row of trees to the left of our runway, I headed straight at them every time. [X(]
I just had the opportunity to maiden a PTS (RTF) for a friend of mine today. We pulled the speed brakes but left the droops on & flaps down.
We had a fun time getting the engine to run. The low speed needle valve was almost 2 turns away from anywhere that would let it run at anything lower than 1/2 throttle.
Once we got the engine running halfway decent it was flying time. There was a 5-10 MPH crosswind which didn't bother my Sig Somethin Extra so I figured we'd be OK. As soon as I hit the throttle the tail popped up & it weather vaned straight into the wind & full right rudder was all but ignored by the plane. It did get airborn & the flight was uneventful from there on but I was absolutely shocked at how difficult it was to take off in a crosswind.
The overall flight characteristics were very graceful & forgiving. I personally felt the control surfaces could have used a little more deflection, but hey it is a trainer.
The landing was extremely graceful right up until touchdown. It greased right in but as soon as it started to slow down that darn crosswind again spun it around like a top. No damage because it was after it was on the ground. just annoying
We did 3 more flights & every single takeoff & landing did the exact same thing. I even went full right rudder prior to gunning it & it shot left (wind was from left) every time. It also spun out on every landing.
So from my intermediate experience opinion it did everything a trainer should do in the air and on approach and landing, but the ground handling was worse than any plane I've ever flown. I was doing some major clinching on every takeoff because we have a row of trees to the left of our runway, I headed straight at them every time. [X(]
Someone must know how to correct this.
roltech
04-24-2006 | 02:30 AM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
Well. the maiden flight of my P-51 PTS went well. She flys great!
I've been doing buddy box training with my instructor (about 8 flights) but it has been going slow as he sometimes doesn't show up at the flying field. After another no show today I decieded to take her up myself solo. Actually I intended to just do a short low altitude hop flight and landing but after she got airborne I thought to myself..."heck, just go for it!". So I did.
I made a climbing left turn into the pattern and circled her around for a landing. The landing was a little rough into the tall grass at the side of the field but nothing broke... success!
I had been practicing the past few days using the simulator and I feel that this helped me a lot.
Bruce Riddell
First solo flight: 23 April 2006
I've been doing buddy box training with my instructor (about 8 flights) but it has been going slow as he sometimes doesn't show up at the flying field. After another no show today I decieded to take her up myself solo. Actually I intended to just do a short low altitude hop flight and landing but after she got airborne I thought to myself..."heck, just go for it!". So I did.
I made a climbing left turn into the pattern and circled her around for a landing. The landing was a little rough into the tall grass at the side of the field but nothing broke... success!
I had been practicing the past few days using the simulator and I feel that this helped me a lot.
Bruce Riddell
First solo flight: 23 April 2006
04-25-2006 | 07:29 AM
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One of our club members showed up at the field this weekend for the first time since last year. He had a PTS, like he had when he was last seen. Turns out to be his third one due to him trying to fly on his own at various places away from our field and multiple crashes and multiple tree landings. He's been more concerned about getting an on-board camera working than learning how to fly. [:@] Well, I took him up on a buddy box and the plane was so sensitive that it was very difficult to fly. It turns out that he had the aileron and elevator rates cranked up to the point that in was hard to fly stable-very touchy. I brought the plane down and adjusted things but by that point I had to call it a day. I turned him over to another instructor who I hope was able to help him. Stuborn people are hard to help though
04-25-2006 | 11:20 PM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
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Well. the maiden flight of my P-51 PTS went well. She flys great!
Bruce Riddell
First solo flight: 23 April 2006
Well. the maiden flight of my P-51 PTS went well. She flys great!
Bruce Riddell
First solo flight: 23 April 2006
Riddell,
Congrats on your first solo!
(I posted this same reply last night..........or did I?)
04-26-2006 | 06:10 AM
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
Thanks Stallwart.
Ya, I plan to continue with the buddy box training if my instructor ever decides to reappear at the field. I soloed the plane because no one was available for over 3 weeks to help me. While waiting I did extensive simulator training on takeoffs and landings. I just wanted to see if the real thing was anything like the simulator. I found out that the real thing isn't quite the same. It is less forgiving! The simulator did help train my brain to make the moves more instinctive though....
Ya, I plan to continue with the buddy box training if my instructor ever decides to reappear at the field. I soloed the plane because no one was available for over 3 weeks to help me. While waiting I did extensive simulator training on takeoffs and landings. I just wanted to see if the real thing was anything like the simulator. I found out that the real thing isn't quite the same. It is less forgiving! The simulator did help train my brain to make the moves more instinctive though....
06-05-2006 | 01:55 PM
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From: brandon,
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RE: First PTS P51 flight that i got to fly
whats up guys?? id like to say first off i have a mustang pts also and i love it although ive only flown it a few times lol but i have to say i love the color schemes on it, i like how it has the bright tail and i can easliy tell which way its going inverted or level..just like to add that. thanks. still looking for some advice on how to install retracts on this plane.....please pm help..
