Aileron Hook Ups
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First the details:
Fairchild PT-26 w. retracts.
Futuaba Skysport6
HI-Tec reciver RCD-3800
I have it all hooked up except the ailerons. I would like to mix in flaperon. I don't know how.
There are 2 servos, 1 for each aileron, on this plane. I know which channel they go in but, there is only one. I need two. Do I need a Y cable for it, and if so, how do I get the polarity reversed on them to make them act opposite. And... If they are opposite, How do I make them act like Flaps? Is that even possible?
P.S. This is the next step in my adventure. The trainer was fun, never even crashed it, but it's time for a new adventure.
Also, to all the newbies out there like myself. The absolute best advice I was ever given was to buy the real plane simulator. I was Soloing on my second flight and have not looked back.
Fairchild PT-26 w. retracts.
Futuaba Skysport6
HI-Tec reciver RCD-3800
I have it all hooked up except the ailerons. I would like to mix in flaperon. I don't know how.
There are 2 servos, 1 for each aileron, on this plane. I know which channel they go in but, there is only one. I need two. Do I need a Y cable for it, and if so, how do I get the polarity reversed on them to make them act opposite. And... If they are opposite, How do I make them act like Flaps? Is that even possible?
P.S. This is the next step in my adventure. The trainer was fun, never even crashed it, but it's time for a new adventure.
Also, to all the newbies out there like myself. The absolute best advice I was ever given was to buy the real plane simulator. I was Soloing on my second flight and have not looked back.
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Your transmitter and receiver must have at least 5 channels to support flaperons. And the transmitter must have a flaperon setting to turn on. Typically, then, you plug one aileron into the normal aileron channel on the receiver and you plug tho other aileron servo into whatever the manual says (on JR transmitters it is AUX1 I think which is the sixth slot on the receiver).
If you only have a four channel system, you can still use an independent servo for each aileron. You use a "Y" connector to drive them both. And you put the servo arm on whatever side of the servo in order to make it go the right way. But you cannot implement flaperons with only four channels.
If you only have a four channel system, you can still use an independent servo for each aileron. You use a "Y" connector to drive them both. And you put the servo arm on whatever side of the servo in order to make it go the right way. But you cannot implement flaperons with only four channels.
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I am not a Futaba user but I suspect the Skysport 6 will not support Flaperons, check your manual. If that is the case then for your ailerons use a 'Y' cable but of course you will not have flaperons. If your airplane has separate flaps then they will operate from your extra channel. Now if this airplane has strip ailerons then using flaperons are fine if your radio supports it but if it is equiped with barn door ailerons without inboard flaps then flaperons are a bad idea anyway. Turning barn door ailerons into flaperons will aggravate tip stalling tendencys at low speed and that is not condusive to long life for the airplane.
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Thank you for your replies.
What are barn door aileorns? I did a search and came up with confusing results.
The box said, that you could set up flaperons.
The skysport6 does have flap control on it but appears that a seperate servo is needed.
Channel 1 is ailerons and channel 6 is flaps. thanks for that info. But can you mix the 2? In other words, can you mix the 2 channels togther to make it work, or is a diffrent radio needed. I have the manual right in front and it says nothing about mixing.
Pardon me if I am going off the wall with this. Thank you for all your help.
What are barn door aileorns? I did a search and came up with confusing results.
The box said, that you could set up flaperons.
The skysport6 does have flap control on it but appears that a seperate servo is needed.
Channel 1 is ailerons and channel 6 is flaps. thanks for that info. But can you mix the 2? In other words, can you mix the 2 channels togther to make it work, or is a diffrent radio needed. I have the manual right in front and it says nothing about mixing.
Pardon me if I am going off the wall with this. Thank you for all your help.
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Guess I was typing when you wrote that last post. Thanks. I figured it might not work. Time for a new radio. Any suggestions?
Preferably one that will not nee dupgrading any time soon.
Preferably one that will not nee dupgrading any time soon.
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Hi Wamp, you'll need a programmable radio to do any mixing,Futaba has a 6 channel,or the 9 cap for the money I think is a great radio,I'm sure other brands are equal in features.BARN DOOR AILERONS.,means they go from end to end on the wings. They are as big as a barn door,also need the y conn. if the servo is by the print they will reverse,if not move the control arm to the other side of one of the servos.
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Barndoor ailerons are short/wide ailerons out near the wingtip as opposed to strip ailerons that are almost full span and very narrow, these are the type that lend themselves to use as flaperons.
There are several versions of the Skysport 6 and possibly the latest will provide for flaperons but I doubt it. I think with Futaba you will have to go with the 6X series to get that feature. Another excellent starter computer type is the Hitec Flash 5X that is a far more capable than the Skysports and inexpensive.
If I may make a small suggestion here, at your stage of your progression perhaps you should just forget the flaps. They really are going to do very little for that ship anyway.
John
There are several versions of the Skysport 6 and possibly the latest will provide for flaperons but I doubt it. I think with Futaba you will have to go with the 6X series to get that feature. Another excellent starter computer type is the Hitec Flash 5X that is a far more capable than the Skysports and inexpensive.
If I may make a small suggestion here, at your stage of your progression perhaps you should just forget the flaps. They really are going to do very little for that ship anyway.
John
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I would suggest the Hitec Eclipse 7 chnl radio. It can do everything plus some, and for the money is well worth it. Plus it is flap, flaperon, crow, and a whole bunch-o-stuff. And you can use it with your current futaba gear too.....
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From: Franklin Park,
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either the hitech or the futaba 9c are great radios. if you do pick up the 9c I can explain excactly how to set up flaperons as I have that radio. just give me a PM if you get in a jam.
good luck and keep it fun.
good luck and keep it fun.
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The Skysport 6 DOES support Flapperons!
Plug the right wing servo into channel 1 and the left wing into channel 6 on the reciever.
Then, open the battery compartment on the Transmitter. There is a row of tiny switches ther. Flip #8 to the UP position and you're ready to go.
Plug the right wing servo into channel 1 and the left wing into channel 6 on the reciever.
Then, open the battery compartment on the Transmitter. There is a row of tiny switches ther. Flip #8 to the UP position and you're ready to go.
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From: Woking UK
MinnFlyer is right, I have a skysport six and have used Flapperons, however are you building a WM Fairchild, if so, dont use flapperons you dont need them and you run the risk of stalling the aircraft on landing. I have a fairchild PT-26 with a Saito 65 four stroke and a skysport 6, it all works very well without flapperons. However watch those wheels on grass, always check the operation of the retracts before each flight and never use the recever battery to power them
hope this helps
Cscape
hope this helps
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