which conversion do I have?
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which conversion do I have?
Hi All,
Quick question,I have a JR SX600 Tx,buying new Rx and servos,how do I know what system I
have....single or dual conversion,This will tell me what crystals to buy.The specs on this Tx does not
tell me.
Thx for any help.
Perry
Quick question,I have a JR SX600 Tx,buying new Rx and servos,how do I know what system I
have....single or dual conversion,This will tell me what crystals to buy.The specs on this Tx does not
tell me.
Thx for any help.
Perry
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RE: which conversion do I have?
The crystal goes in the receiver and that is what matters whether it is single or dual conversion
The RS 600 receiver is single conversion
The RS 600 receiver is single conversion
RS600 6-Channel Universal FM Receiver w/o Crystal
Overview
Based on the popular R700 that topped the performance levels of all other FM receivers tested by a well-known independent lab, JR SPORT’s new 6-channel RS600 is a proven, shift-selectable receiver engineered to operate with all major transmitter brands, including Futaba and HiTec.
JR has a unique signal processing system called ABC&W. ABC&W stands for Automatic Blocking Circuit with Window. ABC&W systems have distinct advantages over single or dual conversion receivers. ABC&W systems create a very small electronic window that looks for the specific frequency that the receivers crystal is on. Any signal that is off spec for this window is rejected, and then the allowed signal is cleaned up, amplified, and re-routed through the window many, many times till all that is left is the pure signal on the channel that is coming from your transmitter and then sent on to the servos. This all takes place without any noticeable delay of response from your stick movement to the servo. This technology is the reason that JR can produce single conversion receivers that have fewer components and weigh less than other single and dual conversion receivers without the worry about outside interference.
Specs
* # of Channels:6
* Modulation:FM
* Band:72/75 Mhz
* Dimensions:0.61 x 1.84 x 0.98 in
* Weight:.64 oz
Overview
Based on the popular R700 that topped the performance levels of all other FM receivers tested by a well-known independent lab, JR SPORT’s new 6-channel RS600 is a proven, shift-selectable receiver engineered to operate with all major transmitter brands, including Futaba and HiTec.
JR has a unique signal processing system called ABC&W. ABC&W stands for Automatic Blocking Circuit with Window. ABC&W systems have distinct advantages over single or dual conversion receivers. ABC&W systems create a very small electronic window that looks for the specific frequency that the receivers crystal is on. Any signal that is off spec for this window is rejected, and then the allowed signal is cleaned up, amplified, and re-routed through the window many, many times till all that is left is the pure signal on the channel that is coming from your transmitter and then sent on to the servos. This all takes place without any noticeable delay of response from your stick movement to the servo. This technology is the reason that JR can produce single conversion receivers that have fewer components and weigh less than other single and dual conversion receivers without the worry about outside interference.
Specs
* # of Channels:6
* Modulation:FM
* Band:72/75 Mhz
* Dimensions:0.61 x 1.84 x 0.98 in
* Weight:.64 oz
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RE: which conversion do I have?
WAIT A MINUTE. You need to check the receiver you are going to buy to determine single or dual conversion. The transmitter doesn't enter into the equation at all. The single or dual conversion is determined by the receiver, whether it has one or two IF (intermediate frequency) stages. Before buying a Xtal for the receiver, make sure it is compatable with that receiver. Ignore the TX other than the channel and whether it is PPM or PCM. My recomendation is to buy a crystal from the manufacture of your receiver. You may find an aftermarket one for a couple bucks less, but after loosing a plane due to one of these cost recuction decesions, $2 will not replace the loss of plane and equipemnt. Get a Xtal for the receiver you are buying from the same manufacture.
Don
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RE: which conversion do I have?
Yes it is and that is fine, The point is the Tx does not care whether or not you use a single or dual conversion Rx as long as the Rx has the right conversion type crystal for the Rx.
Your Tx will work just dandy with many dual or single conversion Rx's and not neccessarily just JR brand either.
John
Your Tx will work just dandy with many dual or single conversion Rx's and not neccessarily just JR brand either.
John
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RE: which conversion do I have?
ORIGINAL: 496xl
Hi All,
Quick question,I have a JR SX600 Tx,buying new Rx and servos,how do I know what system I
have....single or dual conversion,This will tell me what crystals to buy.The specs on this Tx does not
tell me.
Thx for any help.
Perry
Hi All,
Quick question,I have a JR SX600 Tx,buying new Rx and servos,how do I know what system I
have....single or dual conversion,This will tell me what crystals to buy.The specs on this Tx does not
tell me.
Thx for any help.
Perry
Don
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RE: which conversion do I have?
ORIGINAL: Campgems
Guys read this again. As I read it, he has a JR SX600 TX and is going to buy another receiver and servos. There are a lot of choices other than JR I'm guessing, being a Futaba guy. Maybe if he sticks with only JR receivers, the question is mute, but I think my advise that he buys a Xtal from the manufacture of the receiver he is going to buy the receiver from is still sound advise.
Don
Guys read this again. As I read it, he has a JR SX600 TX and is going to buy another receiver and servos. There are a lot of choices other than JR I'm guessing, being a Futaba guy. Maybe if he sticks with only JR receivers, the question is mute, but I think my advise that he buys a Xtal from the manufacture of the receiver he is going to buy the receiver from is still sound advise.
Don
Agreed And thats the way I read it as well, there are many options open to him and at better prices now.
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RE: which conversion do I have?
Being as you guys are bringing up other brands of receivers, one of you needs to explain to him that his JR transmitter is positive shift and that he must buy a positive shift capable receiver? I know the new Hitec 8 channel can handle either positive or negative shift but many receivers are one or the other.
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RE: which conversion do I have?
I'm new to JR, I heard the safest thing to to do is stick with a matched system,
thats why I was trying to figure out how/what is a matched system for the
Rx.
Thx for all the help,trying to purchase another brand of Rx's and servos to
match my Jr....well It's starting to give me a headache.
rgds,
Perry
thats why I was trying to figure out how/what is a matched system for the
Rx.
Thx for all the help,trying to purchase another brand of Rx's and servos to
match my Jr....well It's starting to give me a headache.
rgds,
Perry
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RE: which conversion do I have?
This is a perfect matched system for you JR Tx and it is Dual conversion. Less money AND in my opinion a superior performer to the Jr 600 and has a proven track record of durability, best of all If you have to send it in with crash damage or whatever you will be dealing with the best customer service bar none and I have had experiance with all four of the majors customer service.
Agine there are many options avalible to you.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXKYK3&P=ML
This is the crystal that you would use in the above Rx (eight bucks) on the frequency of your Tx, Do not use a JR crystal in this Rx.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXN503**&P=V
John
Agine there are many options avalible to you.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXKYK3&P=ML
This is the crystal that you would use in the above Rx (eight bucks) on the frequency of your Tx, Do not use a JR crystal in this Rx.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXN503**&P=V
John
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RE: which conversion do I have?
w8ye,
Do you care to sale any of those Rx's?
Also,so if I get a Hitech Rx,I can use my standard
Futuba servos(S148's I believe) with no connector mods?
But the Jr battery connector will opposite correct?
Perry
Do you care to sale any of those Rx's?
Also,so if I get a Hitech Rx,I can use my standard
Futuba servos(S148's I believe) with no connector mods?
But the Jr battery connector will opposite correct?
Perry
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RE: which conversion do I have?
Hold on now be careful, if you are going to start buying used. Things are not so simple While the exact Hitec I posted a link to is current and the perfect match for your Tx and yes as w8ye has indicated your JR servo plugs fit perfectly.
The problem here Hitec supremes have been manufactured in many forms in the past to include: non shift select negative shift only, non shift select positive shift only, and there was even a version specifically (and only) for the old stype Airtronics and all the power leads were reversed and positivily not work with your servos or switch harness.
As you can see the potential for wasting money buying used is high unless you know exactly what you are buying.
In your case any positive shift Hitec Rx will work and in most cases it will say JR directly on the hitec label if you look closely.
Agine the reason I recomend New folks to never buy used untill they have acquired some knowledge concerning what they are buying.
As for me I never ever purchase a used Rx. Russian Roulette is not my kind of game concerning my airplanes I have to much sweat equity in each and every one of them. This even more so now that Rx's are so cheap with the coming of 2.4. While I too am adding 2.4 units rapidly now I could never use up all my 72 stuff and will also be flying 72 probably untill I am no longer able get to the field.
The problem here Hitec supremes have been manufactured in many forms in the past to include: non shift select negative shift only, non shift select positive shift only, and there was even a version specifically (and only) for the old stype Airtronics and all the power leads were reversed and positivily not work with your servos or switch harness.
As you can see the potential for wasting money buying used is high unless you know exactly what you are buying.
In your case any positive shift Hitec Rx will work and in most cases it will say JR directly on the hitec label if you look closely.
Agine the reason I recomend New folks to never buy used untill they have acquired some knowledge concerning what they are buying.
As for me I never ever purchase a used Rx. Russian Roulette is not my kind of game concerning my airplanes I have to much sweat equity in each and every one of them. This even more so now that Rx's are so cheap with the coming of 2.4. While I too am adding 2.4 units rapidly now I could never use up all my 72 stuff and will also be flying 72 probably untill I am no longer able get to the field.
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RE: which conversion do I have?
ORIGINAL: 496xl
w8ye,
I thought the JR servos and batterys have the reversed polarity hook-ups?
If so,then did yo modify them?
Perry
w8ye,
I thought the JR servos and batterys have the reversed polarity hook-ups?
If so,then did yo modify them?
Perry
JR batteries are NOT reversed polarity from all the other They are also centerpin positive just like Hitec, Futaba and Airtronics (not the old style Airtronics).
What you are confused about is the fact that JR chooses to wire the JR wall charger on the TX lead and the JR Tx charge jack with reversed polarity of everyone eles. The Battery agine is not reversed from the industry standard but the charge jack on the JR Tx's is.