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Old 01-15-2009 | 11:41 AM
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The new H9 pts comes in tuskegee airmen colors, but has the wrong color pilot in it. Why is that? If you can change tail colors, can't you change pilot colors in the manufacturing process. I think it would have been cool to make it more realistic and historical.
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Old 01-15-2009 | 11:48 AM
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Maybe they didnt do their homework and don't know that the Tuskegee airman were black.
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Wooooops!
Old 01-15-2009 | 12:08 PM
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I wonder how many points you would lose in a scale competition for something like that.
Old 01-15-2009 | 12:11 PM
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http://www.tuskegeeairmen.org/uploads/nameslist.pdf

They could have at least picked a real name off the list. I'm sure that one of the families would have been honored.
Old 01-15-2009 | 12:33 PM
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Interesting goof! The second name on the list is a resident of my city and we've named a new elementary school after him. It was dedicated Oct 2008


http://www.lps.org/post/detail.cfm?id=1158


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Old 01-15-2009 | 01:38 PM
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ARF, nuff said.
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ARF, nuff said.
Or BARF.
Old 01-15-2009 | 04:59 PM
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Well its prety obvious they didnt do there homework. the Tuskege airmen used the p51 B model, it has the turtle deck canopy. the model they produced is the bubble canopy. Now I not sure if the airmen ever used the Bubble canopy plane, maybe they didnt. I have never seen a pict of the bubble one that they haved used. H9 really took libertys on this one. It really kinda makes me mad. they couldnt get that one right. I thank all of the families of the Tuskegeeairmen, they were real heros
Old 01-15-2009 | 05:04 PM
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Well maybe its just that... all Americans look alike to the Chinese
Old 01-15-2009 | 05:59 PM
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I'm surprised that they got it that close. A lot of ARF's you see come with Asian looking pilots. Nothing wrong with an Asian pilot of course, especially in something like a zero but it does look a little out of place in other stuff.
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Well its prety obvious they didnt do there homework. the Tuskege airmen used the p51 B model, it has the turtle deck canopy. the model they produced is the bubble canopy. Now I not sure if the airmen ever used the Bubble canopy plane,
It's for sure they flubbed on the pilot's color, but like chashint said.........

However, the Airmen flew 3 models of the P-51, the B, C, and D. I couldn't find when they transitioned to the -D model from the -C. They actually started out in P-40's, flew them from April '43 to June '44. They flew P-39's from March to May '44, and transitioned to P-47's during the summer of '44, and then to the Mustang.
Pics of two -D models: "Tall in the Saddle" was flown first by Capt Wendell Williams, and later by Lt. George Hardy. "Creamer's Dream" was flown by Lt. Charles White
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Old 01-15-2009 | 06:42 PM
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yeap your right. I remember the P-40's now. On the stangs, I just never saw the newer ones in the picts. well ok, I was wrong and H9 is off the hook, except for the pilot!
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Color is not everything, the vast majority of chinese ARF's when they do have pilots are grotesquely oversize. Scale airplanes are by their nature an illusion and if accurate illusions is your thing then ARF's and not gonna do for you.

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There was also this D model, "BUNNIE"!
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http://www.tuskegeeairmen.org/uploads/nameslist.pdf

They could have at least picked a real name off the list. I'm sure that one of the families would have been honored.
Not without having to pay royalties...
Old 01-16-2009 | 09:53 AM
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http://www.tuskegeeairmen.org/uploads/nameslist.pdf

They could have at least picked a real name off the list. I'm sure that one of the families would have been honored.
Not without having to pay royalties...
Exactly! They had to make it inaccurate enough to where nobody could come by and sue them. So blame the US lawyers and the number of lame people in the world who want to get something for nothing.
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Time to call NAACP! [sm=lol.gif] Just think of the bust as a "Light Colored Negro." Hey... paint isn't very expensive if it bothers you that much.
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I believe the invasion stripes are also incorrect. I don't think the Tuskeegee group flew
over Normandy. That been said, I'm sure that H9 chose the color scheme for looks and
nothing else. The Tuskeegee colors are my favorite P-51 markings.
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I believe the invasion stripes are also incorrect. I don't think the Tuskeegee group flew
over Normandy. That been said, I'm sure that H9 chose the color scheme for looks and
nothing else.
I believe you are correct. I have been unable to find any reference in pictures or literature that shows the 332 FG aircraft with invasion stripes. The Tuskegee Airmen first flew out of North africa, and then several different bases in Italy for the remainder of the war. Most of their action was over the Mediterrainian, Greece, and the Baltic States (Czechoslovakia, Albania, etc), and the escort of heavy bombers from Italy into Germany. The 332 was part of the 12th AF originally and then transferred to the 15th AF. They did fly over Normandy on some missions, but I can't find details. The dates of service would indicate that their (332) missions into Europe were well after the Invasion itself (late 1944 and into 1945), and the order for invasion stripes to be painted on aircraft for the invasion was made 5 June 1944, the day before the invasion, and there was a followup order later in the summer of 1944 for the stripes to be removed from the aircraft that had them. The Normandy Invasion was supported by aircraft of the 8th AF, and the order to paint the stripes was issued from 8th AF HQ.

So........whether it was H-9's decision to glop a bunch of inaccurate and disparate markings on its new ARF, or somebody over in Asia who doesn't know diddly about the why's and wherefores of these markings, the stripes and the red tails don't go together. I do wish that companies who market "scale" models would at least try to make them historically accurate with their markings. For those who aren't into history as much as I, it leads to erroneous assumptions and knowledge of who, what, when, and where, and does no service or honor to the ones who were actually there.

I think that when I build my SPAD XIII, I'll put invasion stripes on it. Hey, it'll be just as accurate
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I just got the word...

I'll be doing the RCU Magazine review of this plane.

I'll try to make it a little more accurate... Now where is that brown shoe polish?
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The pilot does look far east around the eyes. As far as the color. He might pass for high yellow.[sm=teeth_smile.gif]

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the invasion stripes aren't the only things incorrect....on the left side of the aircraft they have H9, then the star and bars then T...of course this isn't accurate markings..but I'll give them this liberty...on the right side of the airplane the H9 should also be in front of the star and bars, followed by the T..they have it reversed...
And while we are discussing mismarked airplanes how come you never see a swastika on a german airplane advertised in any magazine????? displaying the swastika is historically accurate...and not displaying the swastika doesn't change a thing
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And while we are discussing mismarked airplanes how come you never see a swastika on a german airplane advertised in any magazine????? displaying the swastika is historically accurate...and not displaying the swastika doesn't change a thing
Yeah, they usually had a swastika on the tail, and the iron cross type symbol on the wings and fuse. I'm sure they don't want a complaint from some stupid ACLU type group complaining about a swastika. The swastika was originally an indian good luck symbol before the nazis stole it. The Thunderbird replaced it.
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During the middle sixties I spent some time in Germany and was involved in some modeling and flying activities. I was informed by the LHS at that time 66/68 that display of the swastika on anything including scale models irregardless if it was an accurate finish scheme or not was aginst federal german law. I,ve no idea at all if this is still the case.

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