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Old 03-09-2010 | 05:42 PM
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just like title says
i bought the dynam 6ch sim transmitter. it came with a FMS, but it doesnt work right on window 7. i can run it, but only if i turn textures off(which looks like crap) i need s FREE flight sim to download that will work on window 7.
Old 03-09-2010 | 06:39 PM
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Before you give up , try updating your Direct X drivers. Also , are you running 64 bit ?
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i think its 64 bit.
i put the ddl, or dll file that was needed for FMS to work on vista. that made the program open, but it only works with the textures turned off. which looks lame. the sky is just blue, no detail and its hard to tell where i am.

i really dont care for windows 7. i miss my older computer with window 2000. i also cant play STARTREK ARMADA on window 7
Old 03-09-2010 | 09:55 PM
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Windows 7 Bites, I agree with you there. Luckily I stuck with Xp on my desktop. I was thinking about getting 7 for it but I may just switch to XP on my laptop instead(which now has 7). I skipped Vista altogether. There's an old game called "Fragile Allegiance" that I used to play on Windows 98, now it works on nothing, played Starfleet Command on it also. It would be nice if FMS could come out with a new version, but I still think it is great that they are there at all.-BW
Old 03-09-2010 | 11:08 PM
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Windows 7 works great. Have you tried Windows 7 XP Mode for your old stuff? Do a search. Check it out. Might be what you need to run archaic (but useful) software.
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No Windows 7 is not and does not work great. XP mode does not work well. The software I use is not archaic. The people that feel that old software is outdated are the ones that keep Bill Gates and the other monopolies swimming in money, just so they can have a new version of something that adds a new button or different graphics to do the same job. The first computer I used was a Commodore 64 in the early 80's. now that was archaic. Anyone that thinks a new OS every 2 years is a good thing is......go figure.- I appologize in advance.-BW
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Maybe you should investigate the use of open source solutions. No MS Windows. No MS Office. No MSIE. Plenty of support forums. Then you're not obliged to pay anybody anything for the use of your computer.

Just sign me "software developer for nearly 40 years".
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I'm a programmer/IT tech as well and honestly I thinking M$ did an extremely good job with Win 7. I've ran Vista since day 1 as well, and wasn't very fond of it, nor it's instability and other issues, but I really do love Windows 7. I do find it funny talking to people who think all these features are new though, when half of them were already in Vista but many skipped Vista.

If you have enough RAM just VM XP on your 7 box IMHO if you really need XP. No sense staying behind 10 years in OS advancements... VMWare Player's latest version is now fully capable of creating VM's and is still free to use. So you can have your cake and eat it too if you really want XP. Dual-boot is another option, but a bit more involved for the non tech savy. Open source is another option for ya. I love when people can't accept change in the technology world... You best pick a new hobby!

- I run RealFlight 4.5 w/ my DX6i radio on my Win 7 box fine.
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Windows 7 is just fine. It has some very different appearances and processes than XP or even Vista, but it works just fine. You can get into it and make it "look and feel like" XP if you wish, I've done that with my systems (plural). I have five computers, two at work and three at home, of them, one at work is XP the other is Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit with 8 gig of RAM. Very nice system, fast and reliable.

I am running Realflight G5 on one of my home PC's which is Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit and it runs fine in the standard mode (not XP mode). That machine has 4 gig of RAM installed, which really helps.

I must admit that I didn't much like Vista, but 7 seems to clear up some, many, of the issues that Vista presented when it came out. No operating system is perfect. Microsoft is soon going to drop support for XP and older systems, including Vista in favor of Windows 7.

Yeah we are forced into these new opererating systems by default when we buy new computers, but that's the way it is. You don't have to like it, just as you don't have to buy a new computer.

You might check to see if your Windows 7 computer is adequate enough for your flight simulator to run, meaning, if you have enough memory and if you have a fast enough processor. Then, check to see if the sim software will run on Windows 7 by checking with FMS. If you have an older version of Realflight, and have their USB controller, then you can get a version of G5 without the controller and save a few bucks.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXYET5

$79.99

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Old 03-10-2010 | 07:23 AM
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Windows 7 is a great operating system, especailly if you have a Quad core system 64 bit. and want to run more than 4 gig of ram. Vista is a memory hog. big time and had a lot of issues with 3rd party drivers. It takes just about 2 gig of memory to run Vista operating system .Cold boot time takes for ever. With Windows 7 , my computer boots in 60 seconds or less, my Vista machines take forever.
Run Windows 7 in capatibilty mode and I think you'll find your issues well be solved . Down load the latest Direct X driver . http://www.microsoft.com/games/en-US...s/directx.aspx also.
I build gaming computers and had all kinds of issues with Vista and older games. Windows 7 is so much better and I have'nt run into an issue that could not be fixed fairly easy. I also compete in Overclocking. and when I went from XP Pro to W7 64 bit my computer gained a 1/3 more speed . I also run 2 grafics cards in SLI and 7 really brought out this feature on my computer.
XP is a good operating system, but Microsoft is nolonger doing updates for it .
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Realflight G5 runs on my Windows 7 laptop with 2 gig ram and a slow 1.6 ghz cpu(with min graphics). I just don't like it when the hackers an virus developers know more about my OS then I do. Now I have to teach myself again to keep them out. I found that with 7 I have less control over my computer then ever. I am sure that will change as I spend more time using it. It is just a pain and yes I admit- change is also.BW
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Oh, you are right, to a point. You can gain some of that control back by settings within 7. But, the default is definitely not user oriented, it is more MS deciding "what's best" for you and making decisions for you. I hate it when I want to install a program and have to ask permission from the administrtor when I AM the administrator!!! Or, have administrator rights (at work for instance) on my machines. That can be turned off. It's not easy, and not readily published, but it's an option.

Hey, most of these graphic operating systems, no matter what they are, Linux, Mac, Windows, whatever, do things in the background that we don't have any idea about. Who knows what is being sent back to them in the form of demographics about users. We'll never know.

But, the point here is that you can run these simulators on Windows 7 and they work just fine. Some of them, that is. I'm fairly certain that some of the lesser software writers have not yet optimized their software for use on 7 or even set up their programs for them to work on 7.

Recently, I needed a fast computer with lots of memory to do some analysis at work. The notebook that I had was more of a netbook than a notebook, and just did not cut it. In fact, the most used program that I needed to use would not even load up. So, I complained to the powers to be and shortly after that, I was given the green light to "buy" what I needed.

So, I went to Dell and bought the highest end processor, with the most RAM, and the fastest, largest HDD that I could find that would fit in this laptop.

Unfortunately, it came with Windows 7 Ultimate installed. Unfortunate because my most used software would not run on this 64 bit Win 7 machine. But, the advantage I had was the programmers sit a short distance from me (measured in feet) and we got together and they were able to set up the software so it would work on my machine.

Point is, it can be done, if the software people will get off of their duffs and get going on this stuff. It all comes down to priorities for them. Once they figure that enough 7 computers are out there, and people are not buying their stuff, well, they will fix it... but unitl then, it's "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" that prevails.

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One quick point, here. I am by no means, an avid Windows fan. I'm one of the old-school DOS people and prefer a command line entry without all the hoopla and overhead involved with such an operating system. I just don't quite trust what's going on in the background. So, I reply with a sort of guarded response. But, like most of us, I'm forced into this environment, but don't have to like it.

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Old 03-10-2010 | 09:00 AM
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im not complaining about window 7 as a whole. i just dont understand why it cant run these older programs? why should the new fancy windows 7 have any problem playing some game thats 5 or 10 years old?
when i tried to play ST armada, windows 7 gave me the option to use windows 2000 settings to try and fix the problem. at 1st i was like, sweet a system that fixes itself! i picked that option(the game worked on W 2000) and it did nothing. the game still wouldnt start up.
how hard is it to make a system that is backwards compatiable?!?!?!?

im sure that the sims you pay for will work on windows 7, but if my older computer with windows 2000 hadnt died, i would be playing FMS for free right now!
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how hard is it to make a system that is backwards compatiable?!?!?!?

im sure that the sims you pay for will work on windows 7, but if my older computer with windows 2000 hadnt died, i would be playing FMS for free right now!
Most times, it's very difficult to get backwards compatibility. The older software may not have been written to the operating system's standards, and so won't have the proper "hooks" into the new OS...many programs, usually games, did direct writes into the system rather than use the kernel's built-in libraries and routines. It made the game faster, but eliminated a lot of compatibility. Some programs are old enough that they expect to see the 16-bit file system and can't address the modern system. The list can go on and on and on. You really need to check with the software maker to see what's going on. The maker of the OS cannot address all the different things the thousands of programmers have done to their own little corner of the software world.

Finally, at some point, you just have to write-off old software because it is just that: too old. Don't expect your old 8-bit software to work on the modern 64-bit machines...even if it is your beloved game of caterpillar or Pong (R).

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At least when I used a Commodore 64 the only thing the software needed was to be written in Basic, which was VERY user friendly.-BW
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New OS = old beloved software dysfunctional now = opportunity for developer of old software to restart sales, if they're still around = everybody tied to M$ for eternity, whether they like it or not.

Don't tell me the super duper multi-windowed multi-tasking all-encompassing parallel processing cross-threading monster Windows 7 platinum ultimate diamond grade software is unable to lower itself to execute a simple where-it-all-started 8-bit program.

Now RealFlight, Aerofly, etc etc has an opportunity to revive stagnant sales because the old stuff doesn't work on the new OS.

It's simply all about the money, as stated here previously.
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Well, as I said, Realflight G5 works on W-7. I have not tried 4.5 or lesser version, although I have them. I just don't need four sims loaded on my fast PC.

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RF G3.5 works fine on 7.
Old 03-10-2010 | 04:44 PM
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I picked up a Aerofly Professional Deluxe NIB for 50$. Runs like a champ on 7!! IMHO, 7 kicks the hell out of Vista!!!!
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LouisB-"super duper multi-windowed multi-tasking all-encompassing parallel processing cross-threading monster Windows 7 platinum ultimate diamond grade software". That has got to be the coolest description I have ever heard. Now if MS only made a 52 4 Stroke.-BW
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just like title says
i bought the dynam 6ch sim transmitter. it came with a FMS, but it doesnt work right on window 7. i can run it, but only if i turn textures off(which looks like crap) i need s FREE flight sim to download that will work on window 7.
Try [link=http://www.rcflightsim.com]Clearview[/link] . It's not free, but it is only $40 and IMO its better than RealFlight which is $200 and it has rc cars. They have a free demo so you can try it out and see of you like it.



P.S. It works on win 7.
Old 03-10-2010 | 06:50 PM
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yeh i have already tried the clearview demo. it is pretty nice. but was hoping to only spend $30 for a sim(the price of the dynam controller) i didnt plan on paying for a sim program.
Old 03-10-2010 | 09:29 PM
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nitrosportsandrunner: It is likely that the programs you are trying to run, rely upon older directX dll library files that are not present in Windows 7.

I'm of course assuming that you have a dedicated 3D video card ( not an integrated one ).

That being the case download the DirectX9c redistributable from Microsoft's web site.

Run the downloaded installer, reboot and try the program again.

Even though Windows 7 comes with DirectX 11, the DX9 install will NOT overwrite existing files.

It will however install missing DX9 files that were removed from Vista and Windows 7.


This is all pretty well known and posted on most gaming and gaming support forums.
It's not really anything nefarious or sinister.



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Yeah I have windows 7 running on 64bit and installed Realflight g3.5 that I was running on XP. When you install the sim you want install it in the program x86 folder. This should correct any issues you are having with a game. If that does not work you can right click on the icon of the game on the desktop and choose compatibility mode and select xp or vista and run as admin. Hope this work for you.


My Realflight g3.5 runs great without doing anything!!!!!


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