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Old 03-16-2005, 03:29 PM
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This is a picture i took at the Bomber Field big bird fly in the pilot is named Joe Pastor and is 85 years old and flies all types of planes including jets along with his son joe jr.

Joe sr had just touched down and imediatly went airborne again as his wheel rolled away after a low and slow flyby to assess damage Joe sr lined up and landed on the rim on the asphalt it was amazing and i felt like very few pilots could have pulled it off without causing additional damage.

i also added a few pics to show off some of these amazing birds.
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Old 03-16-2005, 03:36 PM
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just a few more notice the con trails pumped out of the engine the russian bear was built by B.B.Webber and has a 27 foot long body and a 25 foot wing span
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Old 03-16-2005, 03:39 PM
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and last but not least seen as this as a crash forum
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WOW!
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Looks like an incredible show with some incredible models. Thanks for sharing the pics and story !! That looks like Fuddy Duddy. I took a flight in a B-17 painted in those markings.
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:24 PM
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Joe was lucky he did not crash. Thats a beautiful model. Vary talented![8D]
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ORIGINAL: NJ Flyer 72

That looks like Fuddy Duddy. I took a flight in a B-17 painted in those markings.
i do believe that it is indeed Fuddy Duddy

if ever anyone can make it to the big bird show (they also have civilian and military warbird classes) it is most amazing at times they had up to 8 B-17's in the sky at one time.

the Bomber Field wb site is http://www.bomberfieldusa.com/index.htm should anyone need more info it is located about 45 mins outside Houston Texas.

"Joe was lucky he did not crash,Vary talented! "

Joe is an amazing pilot to watch this 85 year old man fly a jet with the reflexes of an 18 year old is almost surreal, if i achieve a level of controll that is one tenth of his skill i will die happy.

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Still, kinda has to make ya sick to watch one of those big boys crash and be demolished!!!! I mean, those models aint no $100 arfs!!!!
There was a guy down towards Parkersburg WV that had some sort of large jet. Can't remember the model but I know it was worth about 15,000. However, wasn't worth crap after doing a full throttle nose dive into the turf. There was virtually nothing left to salvage.
Probably the reason why I will never go above 90 to 120 size.

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I just cannot fly those expensive planes. I get scared, i rather do inverted 2 feet of the ground with my homemade spads worth $15
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I just cannot fly those expensive planes. I get scared, i rather do inverted 2 feet of the ground with my homemade spads worth $15
I agree but if I hit the lottery I wouldn't be into building spad planes. I think the amount of money you have steers your interest to the type of planes you fly.
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ORIGINAL: LuckyArmpit

Still, kinda has to make ya sick to watch one of those big boys crash and be demolished!!!!
Dave...

well the good news is that none of the large birds or jets bit it that weekend.
there were crashes but mostly on the small planes and all exept the one were repairable.
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I can't resist, I have a picture that I took at Bomber field that my friends just love. When I made it my desktop, my friends thought it was a real aircraft.

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The photo didn't go! Try again.
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As a part of Elmira College graduate requariment, I have to serve 60 hours of community service. I chose The National Warplane Museum and currently we are working on "Fuddy Duddy". There is an airshow in Calofornia, in the begining of April and hopefully she will make the deadline. Last week the third engine was still split on half. I will go in Wednesday and take some pictures of interior and exterior if anyone interested?!?
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my friends thought it was a real aircraft.

Bob

i had the same thing with several of the pics i took a lot of people thought they were real untill i showed them other closeups on the ground and even then they thought i was messing with them.

i have several favourites including the fuddy duddy low and slows these are some of the ones people thought were real

very nice shot by the way
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take some pictures of interior and exterior if anyone interested?!?

Yup i would like to see some pics that would be great
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Did you ever hear what took down the Christian Eagle at Monaville? When it went down, it happened so fast that it looked like a catastrophic failure to me.

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ORIGINAL: NJ Flyer 72

That looks like Fuddy Duddy. I took a flight in a B-17 painted in those markings.
i do believe that it is indeed Fuddy Duddy
Here are a couple of more pictures of the model version.

Bob
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Still, kinda has to make ya sick to watch one of those big boys crash and be demolished!!!!
Dave...

well the good news is that none of the large birds or jets bit it that weekend.
there were crashes but mostly on the small planes and all exept the one were repairable.
I would say that the P-38 that crashed was a serious loss, even more so than the Christian Eagle. The P-38 cartwheeled into a chain link fence. The President of our club almost had to run for it as it hit at his pit site.

Bob
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the P-38 was repairable and as i understand is already back in the air the pilot lifted his gear too soon on take off and the prop hit the ground and that caused the crash as only one prop broke causing the plane to roll.

The Christian Eagle apparently went full right rudder and full right aileron and with the low altitude there was no time to respond that was a beautiful plane that i heard was scratch built and not a kit. this is what was left of it on the field.

I was actually working at the field in the sound booth anouncing and taking all the pic's
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Heres a pict. I took at Bomber showing the B-17 roll-out.
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the P-38 was repairable and as i understand is already back in the air the pilot lifted his gear too soon on take off and the prop hit the ground and that caused the crash as only one prop broke causing the plane to roll.
I didn't realize the P-38 was in that good of shape. I took a picture for it as it was taking off. I was very concerned since he lifted off so soon. I think when he cleared the stands, he was going wheels up right as the cross wind from beind the stands caught him. If I recall, the stands made a pretty good wind break, but once you cleared the stands, there was a wicked cross wind waiting for you. I wondered if the pilots knew about it given that where he was standing, there was no discernable winds. I knew that the prop strike set things in motion. I thought that the cross wind may have casued him to dip that wing.

You guys out on a great show out there. I am looking forward to it again this year.

Bob
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mailman that b-17 looks like it is a nats ass away from crashing!
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that last shot is great and it does look like its about to crash that is joe sr landing without the rubber on his wheel.

The pilots were well aware of the wind as it was discussed in all pilot meetings and he had flown several times the day before and the day of the crash repair time is based on a chat with the pilot after the crash.
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if you have the chance check out the new bomberfield web site it is truly one of the best field web sites that i have ever seen

http://www.bomberfieldusa.com/index.htm


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