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Old 09-19-2009 | 01:24 PM
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Nice production of the video, the dog is a show stealer. The stand is cool too, but I spent most of my time appreciating the talent it took to put that video together. Nicely done.

Thank you very much, Vic, I appreciate that greatly. Just trying to add those elements to the video to gain some visual appeal, while keeping it simple and clean.
Well, I'm sure you accomplished the appeal, and then some. I just did a test flight on my EXI and I put on those composite blades they sent when I bought the ''EXI plastic version'', and I took the woodies off. I had to make 1/2 turn adjust on the tracking...it was that close. I took it out, a little windy and gusty. Must'a got it right because I did a bit of hands off and some slow piros in the wind as well as some nose in, she's smooth as glass. The other night while re-building it after a crash, I powered it up for a test on the bench and somehow I tripped the idleup switch and it went full bore in my hand. I actually grabbed it hard and captured the blades in my arms as it's beating on me, I finally unplug the battery. Well, in grabbing it HARD, the canopy retainer stabbed two nice holes in my right hand (deep), blood splattered everywhere. The blades hit my left middle finger and peeled some skin back, as well as the beating my arms took, the bruises still hurt. The damage to the heli was a set of blades, feathering shaft, and a slightly bent lower rear frame. We fought, I think I LOST...I got beat up worse than it did. Good reason to have that TEST STAND you built. I'm glad I had woodies on there instead of the composite...could'a been a LOT worse. No matter how careful you are, sometimes it goes wrong. I sought to unpower the unit and minimize damage to the helicopter....I didn't think about minimizing the damage to ME. Had I been wearing my leather jacket, I doubt it would have hurt me as bad as it did. The lesson in all this....a 450 can really put you in the hurt locker, possibly kill you, so your stand is ''right on'' for something you need.[X(]
Atleast you got all your limbs still!! My Belt Cp has stung me afew times and the EXI has yet to try.



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Well, I'm sure you accomplished the appeal, and then some. I just did a test flight on my EXI and I put on those composite blades they sent when I bought the ''EXI plastic version'', and I took the woodies off. I had to make 1/2 turn adjust on the tracking...it was that close. I took it out, a little windy and gusty. Must'a got it right because I did a bit of hands off and some slow piros in the wind as well as some nose in, she's smooth as glass. The other night while re-building it after a crash, I powered it up for a test on the bench and somehow I tripped the idleup switch and it went full bore in my hand. I actually grabbed it hard and captured the blades in my arms as it's beating on me, I finally unplug the battery. Well, in grabbing it HARD, the canopy retainer stabbed two nice holes in my right hand (deep), blood splattered everywhere. The blades hit my left middle finger and peeled some skin back, as well as the beating my arms took, the bruises still hurt. The damage to the heli was a set of blades, feathering shaft, and a slightly bent lower rear frame. We fought, I think I LOST...I got beat up worse than it did. Good reason to have that TEST STAND you built. I'm glad I had woodies on there instead of the composite...could'a been a LOT worse. No matter how careful you are, sometimes it goes wrong. I sought to unpower the unit and minimize damage to the helicopter....I didn't think about minimizing the damage to ME. Had I been wearing my leather jacket, I doubt it would have hurt me as bad as it did. The lesson in all this....a 450 can really put you in the hurt locker, possibly kill you, so your stand is ''right on'' for something you need.[X(]
HOLY CRAP VIC, I'm glad you're okay, even with some serious puncture wounds and flesh beating. I'm sitting here with my mouth wide open just imagining that scenario, which I've worried about myself ever since I had a tx with an idle up switch. I assume you had the iodine or alcohol at the ready? My god... even with all that, you're lucky it didn't hop up enough to hit you in the neck or face. Sincerely hope the wounds don't require medical attention, good luck with the repairs to YOU and the heli.

Wow. Just, wow. Good lesson I hope none of us have to learn the first time OR again. Heal up, sir!
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Well, I'm sure you accomplished the appeal, and then some. I just did a test flight on my EXI and I put on those composite blades they sent when I bought the ''EXI plastic version'', and I took the woodies off. I had to make 1/2 turn adjust on the tracking...it was that close. I took it out, a little windy and gusty. Must'a got it right because I did a bit of hands off and some slow piros in the wind as well as some nose in, she's smooth as glass. The other night while re-building it after a crash, I powered it up for a test on the bench and somehow I tripped the idleup switch and it went full bore in my hand. I actually grabbed it hard and captured the blades in my arms as it's beating on me, I finally unplug the battery. Well, in grabbing it HARD, the canopy retainer stabbed two nice holes in my right hand (deep), blood splattered everywhere. The blades hit my left middle finger and peeled some skin back, as well as the beating my arms took, the bruises still hurt. The damage to the heli was a set of blades, feathering shaft, and a slightly bent lower rear frame. We fought, I think I LOST...I got beat up worse than it did. Good reason to have that TEST STAND you built. I'm glad I had woodies on there instead of the composite...could'a been a LOT worse. No matter how careful you are, sometimes it goes wrong. I sought to unpower the unit and minimize damage to the helicopter....I didn't think about minimizing the damage to ME. Had I been wearing my leather jacket, I doubt it would have hurt me as bad as it did. The lesson in all this....a 450 can really put you in the hurt locker, possibly kill you, so your stand is ''right on'' for something you need.[X(]
HOLY CRAP VIC, I'm glad you're okay, even with some serious puncture wounds and flesh beating. I'm sitting here with my mouth wide open just imagining that scenario, which I've worried about myself ever since I had a tx with an idle up switch. I assume you had the iodine or alcohol at the ready? My god... even with all that, you're lucky it didn't hop up enough to hit you in the neck or face. Sincerely hope the wounds don't require medical attention, good luck with the repairs to YOU and the heli.

Wow. Just, wow. Good lesson I hope none of us have to learn the first time OR again. Heal up, sir!
Since we have grandkids around alot and the daughter is a certified nurses assistant (I had military first aid training), we have good medical supplies here as well as talent. I ALMOST went to the ER when I couldn't get those puncture wounds which were about 1/2" deep to stop bleeding. Finally, I bit the bullet and forced antibiotic cream into the two holes, and did a good field pack and dressing on it, it's all good now, and healing properly. The arms are still sore from the beating, and the heli flys like a dream right now, so it's all good. If you run CF or composite main blades, it makes that senerio about 10x more dangerous, so just keep that in mind. CF or composite is like spinning knives at 2600rmp and if you got hit right, it would gut you like a deer. Now I do have composite blades, I will be more wary of what's happening for sure. This "hobby" has it's rewards, and it has it's possible dangers. Once, I did go to the ER, I put my fingers and thumb into a .40 gasser propeller to make a carb adjustment and it was at full throttle. I was lucky I didn't loose my right index finger that day, and I was luckier still...it was a wooden propeller which shattered instead of just amputating my finger.
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Hello Vic,

DANG!......you really came close to some real unreversable damage to yourself. Thanks gooness you are ok. That took my breath away just reading it. There was a case here the Public Fly Field operated by the Parks and Rec Dept. where a guy was doing a nose in..........and he nosed in to his face. What I read was that his face got torn off his skull and was chopped horribly. He had to be air lifted to some hospital that could deal with something like that. I read that early in this hobby which kind left me scarred in that I have no interest in nose ins. Couple that with my friend running a Blade 400 into his shines while landing nose in. I no likie nose in's

Glad your gonna be ok...........JPEE
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Glad to hear you are OK Vic. Lesson learned, I'm sure.

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Vic,

At least your not being a "NANCY BOY" about your mishap. LMFAO! We'll have to compare scares someday, I have a few lifetime ones myself. [8D] You've brought out alot of the dangers in this hobby and bringing it to everyones attention.. Let's all be EXTREMELY CAREFUL and COGNIZANT of your helicopter at ALL TIMES.

S L O W D O W N !!!!!!


MR. RICK,

Glad to see you're poppin in. Enjoy your trip to Brazil and enjoy your family, that's most important. IF memory serves me right, you were 27 years old when you came to the United States.. Rick, take care and enjoy yourself until October. Not to worry about us Dufuss Boys. LMAO!

Love ya guys,

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Thanks guys.....today, all bandages and dressings come off, bruises are almost gone, the punctures are seald, the rip is sealed, pain almost zero, swelling is down to about 5% of what it was 6hours after the incident. As I told Jay, I was tired, and somehow tripped the idle-up when I picked up the heli. If you're tired....walk away, that's what I learned. OH...the heli now is SMOOTHER and flys better now than before the incident, so what ever was wrong got fixed after the accident. I flew it today in wind, hands off, slow piros, and nose in with no problems. JPEE...I think about what you said about nose in's all the time. WHen I do nose in, normally I do it at 15ft up and 20yds away. I never fly directly at myself...that would be just crazy. I haven't tried a takeoff or landing while nose in...don't have the stones for it I guess (right now anyway).
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VIC this is RICK (from a LOOOONG way off) I am happy to read you,re recovered. Here I am in Brazil finally
the trip was uneventful but very long. the family is getting together and quite discovering each and every one since
we don t get together but years apart
Just a notice to the BOB s to express that I still LURK ......
so far no helicopters is sight anywhere......even that will come
BRAZILIAN GREETINGS to all
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RICK
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VIC this is RICK (from a LOOOONG way off) I am happy to read you,re recovered. Here I am in Brazil finally
the trip was uneventful but very long. the family is getting together and quite discovering each and every one since
we don t get together but years apart
Just a notice to the BOB s to express that I still LURK ......
so far no helicopters is sight anywhere......even that will come
BRAZILIAN GREETINGS to all
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LMAO....Have fun down there, we all will be looking for your updates.
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Rick,
I'm very happy you had a safe trip! Enjoy every moment spent with your family and friends! I pray for a safe return as well

God Bless Ya,

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Rick,

Happy you had a safe and uneventful flight. Those are the good ones. Have fun and enjoy you stay. Get a few pictures of the good looking Brazilian Ladies for us. Lol!


Tome cuidado e seja bom,

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Rick,

Happy you had a safe and uneventful flight. Those are the good ones. Have fun and enjoy you stay. Get a few pictures of the good looking Brazilian Ladies for us. Lol!


Tome cuidado e seja bom,

Dave
LMAOROTF...yer as bad as Rick.....
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Ray's daughter speaking,
I'm sorry to let you know but my dad died last night from a massive heart attack and I know he counted you guys among his friends.
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Ray's daughter speaking,
I'm sorry to let you know but my dad died last night from a massive heart attack and I know he counted you guys among his friends.
Regards.
Your father was a member of the brothers here, he will be missed. Our prayers to the family, we are very sorry to hear this news, but VERY glad you took the time in this time of sorrow to let us know. You may go back many pages and read your dad's endevors here as the hobby was in his heart. Sincerely....Vic Firman....and all the brothers here.
Old 09-20-2009 | 07:43 PM
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Ray's daughter speaking,
I'm sorry to let you know but my dad died last night from a massive heart attack and I know he counted you guys among his friends.
Regards.

Dear maam,

I'am so very sorry for your loss. I always enjoyed Ray's witty remarks and encouragements he would offer to the forum community here in many threads I've came across. This one also in particular. He will be greatly missed, and will always be one of the "Band of Brothers"... I just happened to come across one of his threads just recently in fact on one of the other main threads here in the E-Flite forum called the "Struggling With Single Rotor Basics" thread that I also attend and on the first page of MANY pages he again, offered the words of wisdom to the new members of the RC Heli community. He said this :


Be not afraid....practice will make perfect and you will learn the quirks of your birds.
I started just over a year ago with a CX-2 and it has proved to be as bulletproof a bird as anyone could want providing you don't expect too much from it. Violent movements are out so it teaches smoothness.
I went to Cp-pro after a few months and "taught myself" to fly it.......just be patient and cautious....if you're not comfortable with the flight, land and try again.
Do not let the pressure of others coerce you into expensive bravado.
I still fly with the "training wheels" because it does increase the footprint and saves main blades.
With the CP-pro, to try to get perfect mechanically is a waste of time and resources. The heli is "gifted" with small diameter ball link ends for which there are no adequate tools so fine adjustment means some mangled fingernails and possible busted parts. Some ball ended pliers will work to separate the linkage but reassembling needs great care.....once you've done it a few times, you'll be OK....the actual balls have a skinny attachment' so that is the point of potential breakage.....I made my own little jigs for painless reassembly.
Some of the "goodies" out there are nice...(I have two CNC heads for the Pro) but, in reality, I found the best upgrades to be the autorotation system and the alum swashplate.
If you want mechanical (flying) perfection then you need to consider a bigger machine with easier handleable parts......I went to a T-rex and found that the larger disc spinning at higher RPM was easier to control.
I currently have 1-CX-2 with Stersman tail and the original motors but alum swashplate, 2-CP-pros with superskids, autorotate and alum swashplates and original motors...!!! and my beautiful Rex.
Most of all.....get some simulator time.....not just to play with but to learn what to expect from specific control inputs....some of those sim models are pretty accurate and will prepare you with a good visual "sight picture" of a bird in the air ('tis a trifle disconcerting when you first get a look at the underside of the rotor) but there's nothing quite like the real thing.
You'll find that hovering while within ground effect will be quite a challenge but not insurmountable....I found that once you get above three feet altitude you'll be able to relax more when out of ground effect.
It will become more addictive as you getter better and more confident.....trust me on that......and you'll get to a stage where you'll say to yourself "....can't understand why I had a problem with that."

He will be greatly missed by many.... I'am VERY glad you were able to relay this unfortunate news to us however. I will be thinking of him, and my prayers go out to him, and you, and your family. As his first words he says in the post above, "Be not afraid....." He's in a much better place now, and will always be within your heart. Treasure the lifetime of memories he gave you, and embrace it.

Again, I'am so sorry...............

~ Jeff Smith.
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FROM BRAZIL a heartfelt and sad farewell to one of our group of brothers. YOU WILL be remembered by all of us.
SINCEREST CONDOLENCES for Daughter and Family members
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Richard F. Barr temporarily in Indaiatuba SaoPaulo Brazil

Jeff Smith expressed himself best for all of us, I m sure
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I'm so very sorry for Your/our loss. My Prayers are for You and Your Family. Ray will now play his music through the sky and I will be listening.

May God guide Him and Bless Him, You, and Your Family.
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Ray's daughter speaking,
I'm sorry to let you know but my dad died last night from a massive heart attack and I know he counted you guys among his friends.
Regards.
Maam,

Your father will be missed by all of us. Our hearts go out to you and your family as well. He was a marvelous person, with his fingers in alot of different things and enjoyed them all. If there is anything we can do for you, just let us know. We are a "Band of Brothers" and we stick together.


My prayers are with you, God Bless,

Dave / Choppersrule
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Thanks for the kind words guys... It helps a lot. Its hard right now, but in time will get better... Its hard to be in the hobby room and not having my companion by my side. Currently Its hard to spend the time in there. However, I can't even muster what Ray's daughter is feeling at the moment with the loss of her father. My prayers are definately directed towards her right now.


Vic ~

I'am so very grateful you didn't sustain more damage to yourself than what already has happened. I swear, I'am more afraid of my 450 than my other birds just because of the headspeed those little guys can dish out. I really need to be more careful also, and not lose the respect of these dangerous heli's. Mainly because for one, I fly alone which is not a good thing, and usually when I fly its quiet and early in the morning. I always make sure I have my cell-phone with me just in case, and there is a field first aid kit in the car among that. The best thing for me is to just use extra precautions. JPEE's story of the nose-in's with that gent's face being re-arranged, now has me looking at a different approach of how I do things also.


Rick ~

I'am so glad your with your loved ones, and I know your going to have a wonderful time there for sure. Safe journey's when you do come back home.



~ Jeff
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Thanks for the kind words guys... It helps a lot. Its hard right now, but in time will get better... Its hard to be in the hobby room and not having my companion by my side. Currently Its hard to spend the time in there. However, I can't even muster what Ray's daughter is feeling at the moment with the loss of her father. My prayers are definately directed towards her right now.


Vic ~

I'am so very grateful you didn't sustain more damage to yourself than what already has happened. I swear, I'am more afraid of my 450 than my other birds just because of the headspeed those little guys can dish out. I really need to be more careful also, and not lose the respect of these dangerous heli's. Mainly because for one, I fly alone which is not a good thing, and usually when I fly its quiet and early in the morning. I always make sure I have my cell-phone with me just in case, and there is a field first aid kit in the car among that. The best thing for me is to just use extra precautions. JPEE's story of the nose-in's with that gent's face being re-arranged, now has me looking at a different approach of how I do things also.


Rick ~

I'am so glad your with your loved ones, and I know your going to have a wonderful time there for sure. Safe journey's when you do come back home.



~ Jeff
Thanks Jeff. This is indeed becomming a somber last couple weeks. My wife had her little dog of 16 years put to rest, he was real bad and just suffering, she made the call. Jay's companion, not well, then yours, ORCAUS, his dog needing a wheel chair, then Ray. Ray was an INTERESTING person to me as he was a musician and I have learned that as NUTS as they can be, there is an intellegence that goes beyond the norm. Ray was special because UNLIKE other musicians I know currently, he wasn't full of himself. He was a regular guy with a love for the R/C helicopter.

I hope the pain subsides for you. I know I hug my dog every day, and I love when she comes to check on me several times a day. It's gonna be hard when she has to leave me eventually, but I know I love her enough that if I need to, I will be like my wife and make the call, and not let her suffer. These last 30 days have been tough. My injuries were minor, I was lucky and I know it. I'd hate to get chewed up by a .30 gasser, that's for sure. Best wishes my friend, hang in there.
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Glad to see you're quite on the mend, Vic, and hang in there, Jeff!!

*back to work*
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Ray's daughter speaking,
I'm sorry to let you know but my dad died last night from a massive heart attack and I know he counted you guys among his friends.
Regards.
Ray will be missed here by many he was a very talented person.
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Thanks guys.....today, all bandages and dressings come off, bruises are almost gone, the punctures are seald, the rip is sealed, pain almost zero, swelling is down to about 5% of what it was 6hours after the incident. As I told Jay, I was tired, and somehow tripped the idle-up when I picked up the heli. If you're tired....walk away, that's what I learned. OH...the heli now is SMOOTHER and flys better now than before the incident, so what ever was wrong got fixed after the accident. I flew it today in wind, hands off, slow piros, and nose in with no problems. JPEE...I think about what you said about nose in's all the time. WHen I do nose in, normally I do it at 15ft up and 20yds away. I never fly directly at myself...that would be just crazy. I haven't tried a takeoff or landing while nose in...don't have the stones for it I guess (right now anyway).

I'm glad your doin good and almost %100 again. I have been workin alot so havent been flying I WANT to but feel tired when I get home and dont want to crash or make some other mistake so I will put it off until I feell up to the challenge again(I need another sim)
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Thanks for the kind words guys... It helps a lot. Its hard right now, but in time will get better... Its hard to be in the hobby room and not having my companion by my side. Currently Its hard to spend the time in there. However, I can't even muster what Ray's daughter is feeling at the moment with the loss of her father. My prayers are definately directed towards her right now.


Vic ~

I'am so very grateful you didn't sustain more damage to yourself than what already has happened. I swear, I'am more afraid of my 450 than my other birds just because of the headspeed those little guys can dish out. I really need to be more careful also, and not lose the respect of these dangerous heli's. Mainly because for one, I fly alone which is not a good thing, and usually when I fly its quiet and early in the morning. I always make sure I have my cell-phone with me just in case, and there is a field first aid kit in the car among that. The best thing for me is to just use extra precautions. JPEE's story of the nose-in's with that gent's face being re-arranged, now has me looking at a different approach of how I do things also.


Rick ~

I'am so glad your with your loved ones, and I know your going to have a wonderful time there for sure. Safe journey's when you do come back home.



~ Jeff
Thanks Jeff. This is indeed becomming a somber last couple weeks. My wife had her little dog of 16 years put to rest, he was real bad and just suffering, she made the call. Jay's companion, not well, then yours, ORCAUS, his dog needing a wheel chair, then Ray. Ray was an INTERESTING person to me as he was a musician and I have learned that as NUTS as they can be, there is an intellegence that goes beyond the norm. Ray was special because UNLIKE other musicians I know currently, he wasn't full of himself. He was a regular guy with a love for the R/C helicopter.

I hope the pain subsides for you. I know I hug my dog every day, and I love when she comes to check on me several times a day. It's gonna be hard when she has to leave me eventually, but I know I love her enough that if I need to, I will be like my wife and make the call, and not let her suffer. These last 30 days have been tough. My injuries were minor, I was lucky and I know it. I'd hate to get chewed up by a .30 gasser, that's for sure. Best wishes my friend, hang in there.
I hear you on that. It is hard to watch Jessie(my GSD) try and get around without her cart which right now we only use outside and some days she doesnt move much its tuff for her to get up and get her legs under her. For the last few weeks she wont leave me or my wife she follows everywhere which is a change for her she doent want to be alone so we give here all the attention as long as where home. My mindset is as long as she is not in pain we will accomadate her but I will not let here suffer.
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Ok 1 more and Im caught up LOL.

My wife Holly is taking a Technology class at IU that is required for her Master's Degree. This last assignment she had to video learning somthing new so here is the flying part of the video. The rest of the video is a intro, basic flight check, flight, and outro.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6PPtk2SoBk&feature=channel_page[/youtube]


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