CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
01-29-2008 | 07:40 AM
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ORIGINAL: eat2muchrice
pirellip should get the free stuff. He has the knowledge of parts and setup and it would make up for distroying his last threads.
pirellip should get the free stuff. He has the knowledge of parts and setup and it would make up for distroying his last threads.
01-29-2008 | 04:21 PM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
hay guys wow first day in over a week we got some sun !!! mass rain here for a week...
anyway just looking in on the thread and I c- there is a sort of vote going on for the free test unit.
problem is the drive unit is not made for stock parts. it is made to replace stock parts, as the page states best lower head to use with drive unit, and if the bar is to be used also, then it also states what upper head is best .... so the offer to test and review using stock parts or parts that the chart does not state, would be not a good or fair review of the drive unit..
mpetrich seems to be doing a well put tougher review so far waiting for part 2 of his review
however offer still stands 2 reviews is better then 1
anyway just looking in on the thread and I c- there is a sort of vote going on for the free test unit.
problem is the drive unit is not made for stock parts. it is made to replace stock parts, as the page states best lower head to use with drive unit, and if the bar is to be used also, then it also states what upper head is best .... so the offer to test and review using stock parts or parts that the chart does not state, would be not a good or fair review of the drive unit..
mpetrich seems to be doing a well put tougher review so far waiting for part 2 of his review
however offer still stands 2 reviews is better then 1
01-31-2008 | 10:07 AM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
ORIGINAL: CRYOHOBBY
hay guys wow first day in over a week we got some sun !!! mass rain here for a week...
anyway just looking in on the thread and I c- there is a sort of vote going on for the free test unit.
problem is the drive unit is not made for stock parts. it is made to replace stock parts, as the page states best lower head to use with drive unit, and if the bar is to be used also, then it also states what upper head is best .... so the offer to test and review using stock parts or parts that the chart does not state, would be not a good or fair review of the drive unit..
mpetrich seems to be doing a well put tougher review so far waiting for part 2 of his review
however offer still stands 2 reviews is better then 1
hay guys wow first day in over a week we got some sun !!! mass rain here for a week...
anyway just looking in on the thread and I c- there is a sort of vote going on for the free test unit.
problem is the drive unit is not made for stock parts. it is made to replace stock parts, as the page states best lower head to use with drive unit, and if the bar is to be used also, then it also states what upper head is best .... so the offer to test and review using stock parts or parts that the chart does not state, would be not a good or fair review of the drive unit..
mpetrich seems to be doing a well put tougher review so far waiting for part 2 of his review
however offer still stands 2 reviews is better then 1
01-31-2008 | 04:28 PM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
As I have stated from the beginning in private messages and on the E-Flite forum, I am willing to be a test case and will post an honest review, but I want the kit delivered free of charge and IF I like it, I will gladly pay whatever $$ it is going for. If I don't like it, I will happily return it along with an equally-honest review.
01-31-2008 | 08:15 PM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
hello this is from cryohobby .. there is way too much censorship here on this board we have made a few post trying to state that we can not ship out of usa the cart is just not set up that way and we do not want to deal with customs ... all our add campaigns are with in usa only just for that reason .... as we have stated the post keep getting edited and post don't get posted right away so for this reason we here at cryohobby have pulled the store setup here on rcu and any adds that were going to run on rcu .... not going to play on a dictatorship run board.. it does not serve our customers or us or the blade cx community at all ..... !!!!
both us and our customers and the cx community need to be able to post and chat freely.. this is the usa and we here at cryohobby are very proud to be a usa based company and believe in freedom of speech!!! UNLIKE RCU!!!!!
as so we have lunched a hole new look and a forum in were free speech is honored ...
ZIG HILE !! flyboy
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both us and our customers and the cx community need to be able to post and chat freely.. this is the usa and we here at cryohobby are very proud to be a usa based company and believe in freedom of speech!!! UNLIKE RCU!!!!!
as so we have lunched a hole new look and a forum in were free speech is honored ...
ZIG HILE !! flyboy
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02-01-2008 | 06:14 PM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
Hey bry, did you get selected to test out the drive, I found out that pirelli is out of the united states and talks about putting stuff on it that is not approved.
02-01-2008 | 06:22 PM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
ORIGINAL: FXR
Hey bry, did you get selected to test out the drive, I found out that pirelli is out of the united states and talks about putting stuff on it that is not approved.
Hey bry, did you get selected to test out the drive, I found out that pirelli is out of the united states and talks about putting stuff on it that is not approved.
What's this about my putting stuff on it that is not approved??
I offered to do BOTH a stock review and a review with all the xtreme and microheli upgrades. From the Cryo response, I understand that it is designed for upgraded parts and have no problem testing it as such.
Everything I just reviewed here is clearly visible in this thread.
If it comes down to votes from members, I have votes from others, BryFlyGuy67 doesn't.
02-01-2008 | 07:09 PM
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That is what I have heard through the grapevine, I figured I would ask. There is a setup that is best for the drive, I did not design it, I just fly with it and crash with it, the more of the two depends on how much I have been flying. I would imagine that Merlin would pick someone that would put it together properly and be in the United States.
02-02-2008 | 02:30 PM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
ORIGINAL: FXR
That is what I have heard through the grapevine, I figured I would ask. There is a setup that is best for the drive, I did not design it, I just fly with it and crash with it, the more of the two depends on how much I have been flying. I would imagine that Merlin would pick someone that would put it together properly and be in the United States.
That is what I have heard through the grapevine, I figured I would ask. There is a setup that is best for the drive, I did not design it, I just fly with it and crash with it, the more of the two depends on how much I have been flying. I would imagine that Merlin would pick someone that would put it together properly and be in the United States.
But please do not imply that I would not be able to 'put it together properly' or not give it a fair and complete review.
02-02-2008 | 09:35 PM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
I have been told that you have been selected. So when will you send your info to them so they can send one to you? (in reply to bryflyguy67
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ORIGINAL: BryFlyGuy67
As I have stated from the beginning in private messages and on the E-Flite forum, I am willing to be a test case and will post an honest review, but I want the kit delivered free of charge and IF I like it, I will gladly pay whatever $$ it is going for. If I don't like it, I will happily return it along with an equally-honest review.
As I have stated from the beginning in private messages and on the E-Flite forum, I am willing to be a test case and will post an honest review, but I want the kit delivered free of charge and IF I like it, I will gladly pay whatever $$ it is going for. If I don't like it, I will happily return it along with an equally-honest review.
02-07-2008 | 05:37 PM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
Our drives are selling, if Bryguy wants to check this drive out he needs to contact Merlin, otherwise that drive is up for sale. We are not here to kiss anyones backside. If you want to fly this thing the way it was supposed to be built in the first place, that is up to you. Bry I believe from what I hear is playing with a more advanced helicopter. That is cool, they are dangerous and very expensive if they crash. My helicopter if it attacks me is no problem, its more of an embarrasement than anything else which is why I like the CX-2. I can fly it indoors or out, it is not dangerous at all. Just dont fly it at eye level without wearing protective eyeware, it is a rotating device and eyes cannot be replaced.
02-07-2008 | 07:53 PM
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I don't have a full drive system, so take that into account.
I do have the outer shaft and gear assembly. I found this to be way long and cut it down to my prefered stock +5mm size. I notice the at CF is about twice as thick as the cf tubing I get at my LHS. Assembly was a little bit of a pita as the tubing has no marking for where the lower head goes. It took a few tries to get it in the right place. First flight was limited as the tubing seemed to be rubbing on the innershaft. The motors got really hot. Second flight was better, and third was back to normal. I crashed on th 5th flight and go a really bad upper head wobble. I traced this to a bent outer shaft. How I bet the carbon fiber I don't know, but when I throttle up the outer shaft only you can see it wobble.
I do have the outer shaft and gear assembly. I found this to be way long and cut it down to my prefered stock +5mm size. I notice the at CF is about twice as thick as the cf tubing I get at my LHS. Assembly was a little bit of a pita as the tubing has no marking for where the lower head goes. It took a few tries to get it in the right place. First flight was limited as the tubing seemed to be rubbing on the innershaft. The motors got really hot. Second flight was better, and third was back to normal. I crashed on th 5th flight and go a really bad upper head wobble. I traced this to a bent outer shaft. How I bet the carbon fiber I don't know, but when I throttle up the outer shaft only you can see it wobble.
02-07-2008 | 10:14 PM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
ORIGINAL: Drewed
I don't have a full drive system, so take that into account.
I do have the outer shaft and gear assembly. I found this to be way long and cut it down to my prefered stock +5mm size. I notice the at CF is about twice as thick as the cf tubing I get at my LHS. Assembly was a little bit of a pita as the tubing has no marking for where the lower head goes. It took a few tries to get it in the right place. First flight was limited as the tubing seemed to be rubbing on the innershaft. The motors got really hot. Second flight was better, and third was back to normal. I crashed on th 5th flight and go a really bad upper head wobble. I traced this to a bent outer shaft. How I bet the carbon fiber I don't know, but when I throttle up the outer shaft only you can see it wobble.
I don't have a full drive system, so take that into account.
I do have the outer shaft and gear assembly. I found this to be way long and cut it down to my prefered stock +5mm size. I notice the at CF is about twice as thick as the cf tubing I get at my LHS. Assembly was a little bit of a pita as the tubing has no marking for where the lower head goes. It took a few tries to get it in the right place. First flight was limited as the tubing seemed to be rubbing on the innershaft. The motors got really hot. Second flight was better, and third was back to normal. I crashed on th 5th flight and go a really bad upper head wobble. I traced this to a bent outer shaft. How I bet the carbon fiber I don't know, but when I throttle up the outer shaft only you can see it wobble.
Being that you didnt buy the whole drive means you didnt get the bearings that go with it, what did you put in?
Also.... what lower head were you using?
Remember folks, replacement parts are just that, replacement parts for the drive system. Do it yourself means that you know what you are doing!
Still waiting on a full review from Mpetrich.
02-08-2008 | 02:56 AM
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Upon further investigations, the shaft is not bent. It rolls just fine across the table. perhaps I did crack it then ( it was a wicked good crash ) I was using a Micro Heli lower head and swash.
And as for "Do it yourself means you don't know what your doing," well that is just WRONG. I fully admitted that I "did it myself" I never once said that the shaft or any of the cyroproduct was to blame. I stated in plane english what occured to me with the modifications I had made. I feel that I in fact praised your product. I said it was " about twice as thick as the cf tubing I get at my LHS."
However if your going to treat your customers and/ or potential customers with that form of disrespect, I will NEVER purchase another product form you, and caution others to be wary as well.
And as for "Do it yourself means you don't know what your doing," well that is just WRONG. I fully admitted that I "did it myself" I never once said that the shaft or any of the cyroproduct was to blame. I stated in plane english what occured to me with the modifications I had made. I feel that I in fact praised your product. I said it was " about twice as thick as the cf tubing I get at my LHS."
However if your going to treat your customers and/ or potential customers with that form of disrespect, I will NEVER purchase another product form you, and caution others to be wary as well.
02-08-2008 | 03:27 AM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
ORIGINAL: Drewed
Upon further investigations, the shaft is not bent. It rolls just fine across the table. perhaps I did crack it then ( it was a wicked good crash ) I was using a Micro Heli lower head and swash.
And as for "Do it yourself means you don't know what your doing," well that is just WRONG. I fully admitted that I "did it myself" I never once said that the shaft or any of the cyroproduct was to blame. I stated in plane english what occured to me with the modifications I had made. I feel that I in fact praised your product. I said it was " about twice as thick as the cf tubing I get at my LHS."
However if your going to treat your customers and/ or potential customers with that form of disrespect, I will NEVER purchase another product form you, and caution others to be wary as well.
Upon further investigations, the shaft is not bent. It rolls just fine across the table. perhaps I did crack it then ( it was a wicked good crash ) I was using a Micro Heli lower head and swash.
And as for "Do it yourself means you don't know what your doing," well that is just WRONG. I fully admitted that I "did it myself" I never once said that the shaft or any of the cyroproduct was to blame. I stated in plane english what occured to me with the modifications I had made. I feel that I in fact praised your product. I said it was " about twice as thick as the cf tubing I get at my LHS."
However if your going to treat your customers and/ or potential customers with that form of disrespect, I will NEVER purchase another product form you, and caution others to be wary as well.
hay drewed sorry for the tone from fxr he is a investor not a employee with the company please don't let him get to ya he did not mean it like that , just the way he speaks
02-08-2008 | 10:59 AM
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Wow! Cryodrive and thier investors have really shown their true colors. I have seen personal abuse and righteous attitudes from the very beginning of your shoving your way into the forums. Accusing a forum member of not being able to give an honest review because of location? Oh Please! Berating another member because he didn't buy the "full" kit? These are just 2 examples taken from this page of the thread. The abuse and insults range across another 2 threads. Which were both hijacked by these guys. Bullying tactics and invasive infiltration don't really shed any kind thoughts on this company in my opinion.
I have seen all I need to and will openly state that even if you invented the "perfect" drive system I personally would never buy from them or ever even think about telling anyone of the products supplied by them. I own my own business and I happen to know that customer relations will make or break you. Its the Karma part of business. You get what you put in, and in the case of this business I only see a short and "rocky" road ahead. Public relations will sell your products, not abusive comments and "holier than thou" retorts to honest evaluations of even partial kits.
Just for the record, I own a Blade CX2 that is pretty well "blinged out" as well as 7 other helis ranging in size from the coaxial up to the 550 size. I am no expert in this hobby but I do know Ilike to spend my money where its appreciated...............not expected!
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I have seen all I need to and will openly state that even if you invented the "perfect" drive system I personally would never buy from them or ever even think about telling anyone of the products supplied by them. I own my own business and I happen to know that customer relations will make or break you. Its the Karma part of business. You get what you put in, and in the case of this business I only see a short and "rocky" road ahead. Public relations will sell your products, not abusive comments and "holier than thou" retorts to honest evaluations of even partial kits.
Just for the record, I own a Blade CX2 that is pretty well "blinged out" as well as 7 other helis ranging in size from the coaxial up to the 550 size. I am no expert in this hobby but I do know Ilike to spend my money where its appreciated...............not expected!
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02-08-2008 | 02:50 PM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
ORIGINAL: ArrowNaughtic
Wow! Cryodrive and thier investors have really shown their true colors.
1.) Yes, I have tried to be a gentleman out here with my replies and discussion, just ask Rice or look at his previous posts.
I have seen personal abuse and righteous attitudes from the very beginning of your shoving your way into the forums.
2.) I have not hijacked any threads on this board. I have simply replied to accusations and untruths just like now.
Accusing a forum member of not being able to give an honest review because of location?
3.) I posted that we only ship within America. I commented on his post nothing more.
Oh Please! Berating another member because he didn't buy the "full" kit? These are just 2 examples taken from this page of the thread.
4.) I was explaining to the member's comment about how the drive didn't work. It was a true statement and I stand by it. My friend appologized for me being so abrumpt, I simply stated the truth, he reengineered the drive.
The abuse and insults range across another 2 threads.
5.) Yes I have been personally attacked, but I am not crying about it. It is just like being on Citizens Band Radio.
Which were both hijacked by these guys.
6.) I have stated that I have personally NOT hyjacked any threads, if I have .... SHOW ME!
Bullying tactics and invasive infiltration don't really shed any kind thoughts on this company in my opinion.
7.)I totally agree. I believe true statements based on fact would definitley be appreciated.
I have seen all I need to and will openly state that even if you invented the "perfect" drive system I personally would never buy from them or ever even think about telling anyone of the products supplied by them.
8.)That is your privilege as a consumer. I am sure there are plenty of Chineeze pot metal parts to replace anything that you will break. Enjoy flying indoors.
I own my own business and I happen to know that customer relations will make or break you.
9.)I am not customer relations. I am a supporter of a new helicopter that works. I thought it would be cool to share the information but have been nothing but attacked on this board for it.
Its the Karma part of business.
10.)Karma is WHY I GOT INVOLVED! I want everyone to enjoy this helicopter the way I have. I see all of the dissinformation out here and see this board as nothing but another CB channel.
You get what you put in, and in the case of this business I only see a short and "rocky" road ahead.
11.)On this board, I TOTALLY AGREE!
Public relations will sell your products, not abusive comments and "holier than thou" retorts to honest evaluations of even partial kits.
12.)Ya. I got chewed out this morning but, I was correct in my statements, it probably could have been stated a bit more politically, but the facts still remain. Like i said, I am not public relations. I am a blogger here.
Just for the record, I own a Blade CX2 that is pretty well "blinged out"
13.)Everything on my helicopter is there for a purpose. It is not bling, I could care less what it looks like, it is how it performs formost, looks is secondary, and it is the raddest looking rc I have ever seen. Of course there are bigger and more dangerous helicopters out there, if mine attacks me, no prob.
as well as 7 other helis ranging in size from the coaxial up to the 550 size. I am no expert in this hobby but I do know Ilike to spend my money where its appreciated...............not expected!
14.)I saw people demanding a free drive, talk about expectations. There is no appreciation out here, it is constant bickering and false statements so people can bloviate and feel good about putting someone down.
This is NOT an official board or place for customer relations. That is why this place is such a mess.
Perhaps someone that actually has the drive may someday post here some day other than I.
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Wow! Cryodrive and thier investors have really shown their true colors.
1.) Yes, I have tried to be a gentleman out here with my replies and discussion, just ask Rice or look at his previous posts.
I have seen personal abuse and righteous attitudes from the very beginning of your shoving your way into the forums.
2.) I have not hijacked any threads on this board. I have simply replied to accusations and untruths just like now.
Accusing a forum member of not being able to give an honest review because of location?
3.) I posted that we only ship within America. I commented on his post nothing more.
Oh Please! Berating another member because he didn't buy the "full" kit? These are just 2 examples taken from this page of the thread.
4.) I was explaining to the member's comment about how the drive didn't work. It was a true statement and I stand by it. My friend appologized for me being so abrumpt, I simply stated the truth, he reengineered the drive.
The abuse and insults range across another 2 threads.
5.) Yes I have been personally attacked, but I am not crying about it. It is just like being on Citizens Band Radio.
Which were both hijacked by these guys.
6.) I have stated that I have personally NOT hyjacked any threads, if I have .... SHOW ME!
Bullying tactics and invasive infiltration don't really shed any kind thoughts on this company in my opinion.
7.)I totally agree. I believe true statements based on fact would definitley be appreciated.
I have seen all I need to and will openly state that even if you invented the "perfect" drive system I personally would never buy from them or ever even think about telling anyone of the products supplied by them.
8.)That is your privilege as a consumer. I am sure there are plenty of Chineeze pot metal parts to replace anything that you will break. Enjoy flying indoors.
I own my own business and I happen to know that customer relations will make or break you.
9.)I am not customer relations. I am a supporter of a new helicopter that works. I thought it would be cool to share the information but have been nothing but attacked on this board for it.
Its the Karma part of business.
10.)Karma is WHY I GOT INVOLVED! I want everyone to enjoy this helicopter the way I have. I see all of the dissinformation out here and see this board as nothing but another CB channel.
You get what you put in, and in the case of this business I only see a short and "rocky" road ahead.
11.)On this board, I TOTALLY AGREE!
Public relations will sell your products, not abusive comments and "holier than thou" retorts to honest evaluations of even partial kits.
12.)Ya. I got chewed out this morning but, I was correct in my statements, it probably could have been stated a bit more politically, but the facts still remain. Like i said, I am not public relations. I am a blogger here.
Just for the record, I own a Blade CX2 that is pretty well "blinged out"
13.)Everything on my helicopter is there for a purpose. It is not bling, I could care less what it looks like, it is how it performs formost, looks is secondary, and it is the raddest looking rc I have ever seen. Of course there are bigger and more dangerous helicopters out there, if mine attacks me, no prob.
as well as 7 other helis ranging in size from the coaxial up to the 550 size. I am no expert in this hobby but I do know Ilike to spend my money where its appreciated...............not expected!
14.)I saw people demanding a free drive, talk about expectations. There is no appreciation out here, it is constant bickering and false statements so people can bloviate and feel good about putting someone down.
This is NOT an official board or place for customer relations. That is why this place is such a mess.
Perhaps someone that actually has the drive may someday post here some day other than I.
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02-08-2008 | 03:02 PM
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ORIGINAL: FXR
1.) Yes, I have tried to be a gentleman out here with my replies and discussion, just ask Rice or look at his previous posts.
1.) Yes, I have tried to be a gentleman out here with my replies and discussion, just ask Rice or look at his previous posts.
Don't bring me into this, The only reason why I said what I said was only to shut you up. You and your buddy have never shown any respect to anyone. Thats why you guys keep getting banned and restricted on this forum.
02-08-2008 | 03:51 PM
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It was not a fault of the cyrodrive that it failed. It was my own modding of the parts that caused the failure ( either that or the full speed crash of the rotor head into a cross tie!)
I was contented to chalk up the money to a learning experance, but when I berated by an "investor," I was ticked off. I was under the impression that I gave a fair and truthfull explaination of what happend. I never blamed anything on the drive.
An employee of the company apologized to me via PM and offered a replacement part and to include the gauge needed to facilitate the locating of the lower head. I was floored by this PM to say the least. This is the type of customer service that can go a long way to making a successful company. This response was far above what I would have expected, and rightfully deserve. This is akin to removing the brakes from your car, crashing it, and then Chevy saying " Oh were sorry, we'll send you a new car."
I am willing to resend my statement of "I will NEVER purchase another product form you, and caution others to be wary as well," as it appears that the employees of Cyrohobby do care about customer service, and stand behind their product.
I work in field service for an international company. I'm in front of customers all day long, and I am the "face" of the company to these customers. Their impressions of me is their impression of the whole company, even if there are 100's of other employees who work for the same company I do. It takes so much effort and money to gain one customer, but loosing hundreds costs so much more.
I was contented to chalk up the money to a learning experance, but when I berated by an "investor," I was ticked off. I was under the impression that I gave a fair and truthfull explaination of what happend. I never blamed anything on the drive.
An employee of the company apologized to me via PM and offered a replacement part and to include the gauge needed to facilitate the locating of the lower head. I was floored by this PM to say the least. This is the type of customer service that can go a long way to making a successful company. This response was far above what I would have expected, and rightfully deserve. This is akin to removing the brakes from your car, crashing it, and then Chevy saying " Oh were sorry, we'll send you a new car."
I am willing to resend my statement of "I will NEVER purchase another product form you, and caution others to be wary as well," as it appears that the employees of Cyrohobby do care about customer service, and stand behind their product.
I work in field service for an international company. I'm in front of customers all day long, and I am the "face" of the company to these customers. Their impressions of me is their impression of the whole company, even if there are 100's of other employees who work for the same company I do. It takes so much effort and money to gain one customer, but loosing hundreds costs so much more.
02-08-2008 | 04:39 PM
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RE: CYRODRIVE DISCUSSION THREAD
Hey Mr Drew, Sorry if I was wrong in the way of my explaination, never said I was a diplomat. Do your test with the drive and keep in touch, I am going to tell this tard of a friend of mine that you should get bry's drive being that he hasnt responded. My way of saying, sorry I was soo harsh, but I have been a CBer for many years and know how to respond to people showing me no respect and try to keep some dignity. I am not perfect, just forgiven.... the usual christian statement.lol. Once you have done your 5 mm test, when you get the full drive, you will really see the differance. Then just imagine it with a 3 cell.... omg! Ohh by the way rice... I will post that reply that you sent me appologizing for being such a turd. All I have ever done is respond to your statements, I have never attacked you directly... exept commenting on how nice your helmet looks when you climb out of the short bus.
