They are indeed too long! Its like almost all the way back and its not fun to do with a pair of pliers and your hand. Might as well up grade it once and for all since you will not be flying low inverted passes etc. I did not like the ball links, the batch I got seems to have a little kink, it 'clicks' when you move past centre, maybe its the injection mold process. I have not touched my Wind S for soooooo many months.

Hello All

Well...........my Wind 110 arrived today along with a Scorpion 4035-250 and a CC Ice 100 ESC. It survived the trip from China to Florida to California!! It is one beautiful machine as all you have said. Not as big as a 2m of course but compared to my Vanquish, it is a giant. I am very stoked about it. Once again I am planning to run it on 8s and use an APC 18-12. I downloaded the Scorpion motor calc program and I might even try a 19-12 on it. I should get around 1600 watts with the 18-12, about 5800 gr of thrust and a motor temp of about 34C drawing 50 amps. If I go to the 19-12 the temp goes to 38C with a 62 amp draw but 1900 watts and 6300 gr of thrust. This is all approximate of course and is based on 32V. I will for sure use a watt meter to confirm all of this when I get it going, I ran a comparison with the higher kv motors in the 4035 series and the 4035-250 is definately the most bang for buck (imho) on 8s. Wilson.......thank you for pointing us in the right direction. Your Wind on 10s must be a rocket!! Now to just get it in ther air!!  Joe......have you flown your's yet??

Cheers

MJ

MJ ... I would say go 10S ... those big props are gonna 'kick' into your vertical stab and you may need more right thrust (someone please correct me if I am wrong!). Mine on 10S can prop hang for sure but I love the power, allows me to fly those nice big loops when I wanna mess around. Hehehehee ... Also, look back a bit and see how we sorted out the motor shaft support.

Thanks Wilson............over the last couple of months I think I have read every post at least twice and I plan to use your method of supporting the rear shaft. As far as more right thrust goes, I have been using a throttle to rudder mix on my Vanquish with great success. It takes a little more fiddling with the mix curves as it is not a linear mix but once dialled in it works well. If I do need more right thrust for a larger propeller I will probably use the same technique and mix rudder with throttle..........gotta love those computer radios!

Cheers

MJ

MJ ... I am gonna try your THR-RUD mix. Interesting. Will see how it goes. Thanks!

You're welcome Wilson but the original idea came from someone else on another forum. You really do no need very much mix travel on the rudder. It just moves a tiny bit to the right at full throttle and you will need only a tiny bit less at 1/4 throttle. As I say, the curve is not linear and I guess even though the propeller is not producing a whole lot of thrust at 1/4 throttle, the corkscrew effect of the air off of it is still substantial. (This is called P-factor). 

Cheers

MJ

bedowinn, you said you added weight to the tail for a CG adjustment. Can you say what you are currently at?

I ended up taking it back out and it flew better. It may still be slightly tail heavy. I'm at 7-1/4" from the leading edge.
What are you guys running??

Mike

The 18cm sebart states in the manual, is too forward if you ask me. The plane also needs a lot of up trim then. Mij CG is at 19.5cm (7 2/3 inch) and that suits me, still neets a slight up trim tho.

Interesting. The plane flys OK. But at left rudder KE it pulls to the belly. At right rudder KE it tracks straight. So I'm moving the cg forward a little more.
I had a local Pattern expert fly my plane and as he handed the Tx back to me said "Tail Heavy!"
I think I should also add a wing adjuster to play with the incidence

I found with the angel 30/50 and wind 110, all planes fly better with a more forward CofG, must be something to do with the wing section. If I do move the batteries back it looks like all plane fly tail heavy and drags the tail round turns...

Cheers

Kris

well, considering it's a woodbuilt arf, and the fact that it's also a personal matter, their probably is no such thing as 'the universal correct CG'. If anything, the plane does allow you to experiment with it, without it biting you.

Since this is my first big pattern ship, can you guys tell me what you do with the servo wires coming from the elevators? I was thinking of just looping them once around one of the middle bulkheads so they don't flop around. Normally I secure all my wires, but I can't get my hand back there.

What did everyone else do?

I heat-shrunk my elevator servo wires to the extensions. The lead goes through one of the small holes in the formers. Seems quite secure, of course my elevators are not set up for regular removal.

Elevator wires are run through 1/2 in paper tube tack glued to fuselage formers.

tommy s

Thanks for the good ideas on the elevator wires. I am half done now, and can't wait to fly this bird!

I just hooked up an Eagletree data logger to the plane.
Pulled a max of 64 amps today with a Scorp 4035-250 thru a CC85HV swinging an APC 18X10E.
The good news is my max rpm was 64,000. With a little tweaking I'm sure I can get to a million rpm with this prop.

My girlfriend got me sexy lingerie for my birthday.. not for me, but for the WindS:





offcourse this is a gadget, but it's functional as well.. in reality its silver fabric, it reflects the sunlight.. so your plane stays cool.

Is that made for the Wind, or just 110 size planes in general? Where would somebody find one if they wanted to buy it?

I have seen them a lot at pattern contests. I think it beats leaving the plane unprotected in the sweltering sun.

It's frome here:
http://www.f3alorenz.homepage.t-onli...m#sonnenschutz

It's not specifically for the WindS 110, it's for all 110 size F3A birds. The cloth reflects sunlight and is elastic.

Hi Hezik,

How have you found the knife edge with this CG point?

Hopefully my Wind will arrive at the LHS this week, fingers crossed.

It needs some knife edge mixing, no matter where you put the CG. A small (1%) rudder/roll mix and a small rudder/elevator mx. As is stated in the manual.

Hezik ... kewl prezzie! Does your gf also have a nice sister?

Aaarrggghh ... finally got take my WindS out and after I entered a KE she popped the canopy, can see it split in the air and float down. The anti-rotation pin that was crooked finally broke the root rib that it was on. Sigh ... lucky that the manufacturer had earlier sent me a new canopy, as the one delivered was cracked, and wing! Looks like I need to tape the back of the canopy to the turtle deck for more security. Guys ... watch out!