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ORIGINAL: mklein25 Steve - Pulling out the cool tools.....the laser idea sure beats using a bowed piece of spruce as an alignment tool :-) I was busy modifying my plane rack system in the car last night so that I could take my new Passport to the field this weekend, but I will get back at the Visa in the coming days and try to figure this front mounted elevator servo thing out. I like your idea of how to locate where to put a fuse exit for the pushrods. I am trying to figure how to know where to put the holes in the support cross-pieces. I guess that I will just guess and do some trial and error until I get it right. It is probably much easier when you actually sit down to do it than when you try to think it through. Maybe the best way is to stack a couple crossmembers and drill them together for the pushrod supports, then start shaving equal amounts off each end until the rods follow the line you want toward the exit hole? Mike I will call you later today. Chip PS Steve really does have all the cool tools. I plan on flying with him quite a bit upon my return and asking him a lot of questions. |
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[/quote] Glen is a guy that I have admired from a distance for a long time. He only speaks when he has something important to say and his equipment is always first class. To receive an email like that from him makes me feel really good and I know we are doing our jobs. Chip [/quote] Chip I am honored you view me this way...however you haven't been around me post contest after consuming a bit of Glenlivet 18 :) |
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Hmm.... i need to encourage you to have some B4 the rounds begin.....
C U in Katy. Chuck |
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ORIGINAL: RC_Pattern_Flyer Hmm.... i need to encourage you to have some B4 the rounds begin..... C U in Katy. Chuck |
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I have been flying C A models for some time and love the workmanship. Im thinking about the Visa and have been reading the post. On page 12 I believe its Dans airplane I noticed two stab pin holes. Is this a building flaw or does the plane have two pin marks from the mold?
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They had the pin located in the wrong spot on the first ones. It has been corrected.
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ORIGINAL: shannah They had the pin located in the wrong spot on the first ones. It has been corrected. Now on to new business lol. I have posted everyone elses Visa's but not one for myself until now. I have three in the paint shop at this time and have finished the first one. So here is a pic. Now before everyone thinks it was just a short cut let me tell you an all white painted airplane is much more work then I ever thought it could be. I have always wanted a super clean white airplane and after flying the original Visa and then the Envison I decided I was going to make one of my new planes this way. Now I didn't mention that to Marcelo until it was finished. You should of heard his voice on the phone when I told him it was done. Mi dios (my god) is all I heard then a dial tone. Needless to say he was at the paint factory seconds later. Then when he saw it he was WOW. I realize it may not be perfect for all skies but where I live and hang out its primarily blue. Also this is the model I built for the new Nue motor and with Tonys help I hope we can debut it at Arvin in a couple weeks. Regardless I am also bring 2 fully decked out Visas. Chip |
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The test of a good looking plane is how it looks in white. I said it before when you had the all white model that it looked good to me.
I think that's brilliant Chip. Very cool. I hope this plane brings you a ton of success. Mike |
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O.K. so forgive my questioning as I am certain it is unjustified, but before laying out big bucks for one of these spectacularly beautiful planes I am hoping to hear some input from average "Joes". I bought an E-Motion from my buddy C. Moon because he convinced me that it would fly better than the Integral that I tried as my first "real plane". Are there any Intermediate or Advanced folks out there with one of these awesome looking planes in their hands that can speak to the comparative flying qualities of the VISA? How does it fly compared to other models you've had? I read Todd's comments and am encouraged by his experience, but are there more? And since I'm an outrunner only kind of guy, has anyone built one with a Pletty yet?
Thanks as always. Curious and intrigued in NY! Joe |
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Very nice, Chip! The Visa sure is a good looking airplane!
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O.K. so forgive my questioning as I am certain it is unjustified, but before laying out big bucks for one of these spectacularly beautiful planes I am hoping to hear some input from average "Joes". I bought an E-Motion from my buddy C. Moon because he convinced me that it would fly better than the Integral that I tried as my first "real plane". Are there any Intermediate or Advanced folks out there with one of these awesome looking planes in their hands that can speak to the comparative flying qualities of the VISA? How does it fly compared to other models you've had? I read Todd's comments and am encouraged by his experience, but are there more? And since I'm an outrunner only kind of guy, has anyone built one with a Pletty yet? Thanks as always. Curious and intrigued in NY! Joe Read more: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_93...#ixzz0lbEj4JfL Joe, as far as I know Chip and I are the only ones that have a Visa in the air. There should be some more flying in a week or so. You should get some great feed back from Glen, Keith Steve and Cameron. they should have theirs going soon. As for me I now have 20 flights on the Visa and it is getting better every flight. I now have all of the mixes turned off and the plane is unbelievable the rolling maneuvers are very easy with this plane even the rolling loops. I hope to get more time on the plane and fly it in a couple of weeks at Glen's contest |
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Todd,
Glad to hear your coming. Glen |
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ORIGINAL: 2Sunny O.K. so forgive my questioning as I am certain it is unjustified, but before laying out big bucks for one of these spectacularly beautiful planes I am hoping to hear some input from average ''Joes''. I bought an E-Motion from my buddy C. Moon because he convinced me that it would fly better than the Integral that I tried as my first ''real plane''. Are there any Intermediate or Advanced folks out there with one of these awesome looking planes in their hands that can speak to the comparative flying qualities of the VISA? How does it fly compared to other models you've had? I read Todd's comments and am encouraged by his experience, but are there more? And since I'm an outrunner only kind of guy, has anyone built one with a Pletty yet? Thanks as always. Curious and intrigued in NY! Joe I don't know that there is an airplane that is better than others for Intermediate and Advanced. All of the designs are optimized for FAI, and will fly the lower classes well by default. There is no magic airplane out there and with a well setup airplane and lots of practice any of the newer designs will work great for the lower classes. A properly setup airplane and lots of practice is a lot more important in the lower classes than airplane choice. A Prophecy, Sequal or any other design of that era could easily win Intermediate at the NATS with the right pilot. The newer planes do some things better than the older designs, but just buying a new plane isn't going to make near as much difference as hours spent at the field. Proper setup and trimming is very important and I would argue that is why most of the top FAI flyers planes fly better than someone who is just starting. Take the time to learn how to trim an airplane and pick the brains of people who are near you that know how to do it. Just my .02 Arch |
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Yes, the Visa is another nice supreme design just like the pass port. I love my two..
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Thanks for the nice comments. Today we finished two Visas, Leon Robisons and Jon Carters. Leons is a cross between a Visa and his Passport and Jon's is my Visa with a touch of pearl. You can't see the pearl in the photo but trust me when you see it you will be blown away.
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I tried to upload pics but I cant
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ORIGINAL: rcpattern Joe, I don't know that there is an airplane that is better than others for Intermediate and Advanced. All of the designs are optimized for FAI, and will fly the lower classes well by default. There is no magic airplane out there and with a well setup airplane and lots of practice any of the newer designs will work great for the lower classes. A properly setup airplane and lots of practice is a lot more important in the lower classes than airplane choice. A Prophecy, Sequal or any other design of that era could easily win Intermediate at the NATS with the right pilot. The newer planes do some things better than the older designs, but just buying a new plane isn't going to make near as much difference as hours spent at the field. Proper setup and trimming is very important and I would argue that is why most of the top FAI flyers planes fly better than someone who is just starting. Take the time to learn how to trim an airplane and pick the brains of people who are near you that know how to do it. Just my .02 Arch Thanks Arch! I have been inundated with the same-same advice and can only plead jealousy. I promise to "fly the crap outta" my E-Motion and build my skills, but I can't help drooling over and dreaming about a machine as beautiful as the VISA. Joe |
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Marcio Jorge got his first flights this past weekend. His Visa is equipped with the New Extreme Flight F3A Outrunner & ESC. (Pre Production). The Motor & ESC ran very cool behind the new Spinner that came for the Visa! 5300 V2 Thunder Power Batteries, Futaba Gear.. 10 pounds 9 ounces!
He did have to move the Battery tray back a little as he is Not running the Split Rudder? What a First E-Plane!!! |
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ORIGINAL: 2Sunny ORIGINAL: rcpattern Joe, I don't know that there is an airplane that is better than others for Intermediate and Advanced. All of the designs are optimized for FAI, and will fly the lower classes well by default. There is no magic airplane out there and with a well setup airplane and lots of practice any of the newer designs will work great for the lower classes. A properly setup airplane and lots of practice is a lot more important in the lower classes than airplane choice. A Prophecy, Sequal or any other design of that era could easily win Intermediate at the NATS with the right pilot. The newer planes do some things better than the older designs, but just buying a new plane isn't going to make near as much difference as hours spent at the field. Proper setup and trimming is very important and I would argue that is why most of the top FAI flyers planes fly better than someone who is just starting. Take the time to learn how to trim an airplane and pick the brains of people who are near you that know how to do it. Just my .02 Arch Thanks Arch! I have been inundated with the same-same advice and can only plead jealousy. I promise to ''fly the crap outta'' my E-Motion and build my skills, but I can't help drooling over and dreaming about a machine as beautiful as the VISA. Joe Chip |
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Just wanted to let anyone that was looking to put the elevator servos further forward in the plane as Chip did, that it really isn't all that difficult. I did mine in relatively short order. I drilled exit holes 7.5" forward of the bevel in the rudder post and 0.75" above the paint line (red in my case). If I were to do it again I might push the exit hole back to 7.0" from the bevel, but mine worked out just fine where it is. The installation of the servos is a breeze. I just used 1/8" light ply rails that I screwed the servos to and epoxied into position. Since you can reach your arm down the fuse, the braces are easy. I got one a little further down the fuse than Chip given that I have adult size arms :-)
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Now that is a cool mixture Chip.
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ORIGINAL: dentdoc Marcio Jorge got his first flights this past weekend. His Visa is equipped with the New Extreme Flight F3A Outrunner & ESC. (Pre Production). The Motor & ESC ran very cool behind the new Spinner that came for the Visa! 5300 V2 Thunder Power Batteries, Futaba Gear.. 10 pounds 9 ounces! He did have to move the Battery tray back a little as he is Not running the Split Rudder? What a First E-Plane!!! Ca Team |
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ORIGINAL: mklein25 Just wanted to let anyone that was looking to put the elevator servos further forward in the plane as Chip did, that it really isn't all that difficult. I did mine in relatively short order. I drilled exit holes 7.5'' forward of the bevel in the rudder post and 0.75'' above the paint line (red in my case). If I were to do it again I might push the exit hole back to 7.0'' from the bevel, but mine worked out just fine where it is. The installation of the servos is a breeze. I just used 1/8'' light ply rails that I screwed the servos to and epoxied into position. Since you can reach your arm down the fuse, the braces are easy. I got one a little further down the fuse than Chip given that I have adult size arms :-) Thanks for the info Mike, Did you end up running your pushrods through your braces or did you just mount them on top of the braces? It also sounds like you didn't mount your servos on the backend of the floor panel like Chip did. By the way, did you do the removeable split rudder? I hinged mine last night and I am working it to keep the gap between rudder and vertical fin at a minimum. It isn't as clean as the CA hinges but I think it will be OK. |
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