Brillelli 25GT on CMP Spitfire
03-22-2006 | 06:34 PM
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Brillelli 25GT on CMP Spitfire
Scott has done it again. My old Spitfire has had several big 2-strokes, etc stuffed into it over the last two years. The cowling shows it too. So mounting a 25cc Toro conversion was the last thing I thought I'd ever do to this bird. But the 25ccGT with EI weighs so little that I only gained a few extra ounces. Before I weighed in at 11LBs dry. And that was with a solid pound of lead in the nose for balance. Now it weighs in at an even 12LBs and that's with two 1650mah batteries . I did replace the 16oz fuel tank with a 12oz since going gas. I never fly over 15 minutes anyway. Not too sure of the retracts yet. But like most I'm sure they will keep me busy in between flights. The old ones were bent up and under sized. These aren't much better really. 3/16 wire Hanger9 P-51 150sized stock replacements. The H9 P-51 is reported to weigh about 15LBs so they should hold up. I still need to try out some differant wheels and get my tow-in set correctly but I got some good advice in the WBs section on shimming the gear so they rake forward more.
Still,,, unless you fly warbirds every other day or more and cannot screw the pooch on the landings they tend to nose over on us guys that fly Edge 540s and other fixed gear non warbird type planes. I got fairly good with mine last summer but I know it's a constant concern for those landing on grass. I fly from a paved field but it still happens when you least expect it.
I mentioned this concern to Scott over the phone one evening and told him it worried me having a big cylinder , pipe and EI plug wire cap hanging down behind my brand new Dave Brown spinner. Scott asked for a few closeup pics of my plane in a nosed over position and said he'd look into it. That was last Thursday or Friday.
TODAY I check the mail and there is a box from Scott. It weighs like nothing. Opened it up and there is a gorgeous polished alum shark fin built just for my warbird's GT25. Not only does it protect my new engine and pipe it also protects my spinner from road rash in case of nose-over. I just removed the chromed head cover and it bolted right into place. My CH ignition ground wire fits right on one of the bolts for a solid ground.
I just wanted to thank Scott and let everyone know about his great customer service. He will go the extra mile for you and make each engine like it was built for himself. In fact I think he hates to see his little conversion children go after he test runs them. LOL Just kidding Scott,,, but I know from talking to ya how much you fuss over each one.
Haven't gotten the chance to fly it yet but if I can get the landing gear and wheels all lined up maybe this weekend's weather will allow it.
HOT ROD SPIT.
Brillelli 25cc GT
CH Electronic Ignition
17x6 APC
Condition is new still breaking in.
Fuel: 50:1 Premium gasoline and Lucas 2cycle Racing oil.
Flip starts cold on 6th flip. (It's still very new and tight but getting easier the more I run it.)
Flip starts 1st time warm.
Plane: CMP Spitfire MkII
Wingspan: 71"
Weight: 12LBs
Still,,, unless you fly warbirds every other day or more and cannot screw the pooch on the landings they tend to nose over on us guys that fly Edge 540s and other fixed gear non warbird type planes. I got fairly good with mine last summer but I know it's a constant concern for those landing on grass. I fly from a paved field but it still happens when you least expect it.
I mentioned this concern to Scott over the phone one evening and told him it worried me having a big cylinder , pipe and EI plug wire cap hanging down behind my brand new Dave Brown spinner. Scott asked for a few closeup pics of my plane in a nosed over position and said he'd look into it. That was last Thursday or Friday.
TODAY I check the mail and there is a box from Scott. It weighs like nothing. Opened it up and there is a gorgeous polished alum shark fin built just for my warbird's GT25. Not only does it protect my new engine and pipe it also protects my spinner from road rash in case of nose-over. I just removed the chromed head cover and it bolted right into place. My CH ignition ground wire fits right on one of the bolts for a solid ground.
I just wanted to thank Scott and let everyone know about his great customer service. He will go the extra mile for you and make each engine like it was built for himself. In fact I think he hates to see his little conversion children go after he test runs them. LOL Just kidding Scott,,, but I know from talking to ya how much you fuss over each one.
Haven't gotten the chance to fly it yet but if I can get the landing gear and wheels all lined up maybe this weekend's weather will allow it.
HOT ROD SPIT.
Brillelli 25cc GT
CH Electronic Ignition
17x6 APC
Condition is new still breaking in.
Fuel: 50:1 Premium gasoline and Lucas 2cycle Racing oil.
Flip starts cold on 6th flip. (It's still very new and tight but getting easier the more I run it.)
Flip starts 1st time warm.
Plane: CMP Spitfire MkII
Wingspan: 71"
Weight: 12LBs
03-23-2006 | 10:10 AM
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RE: Brillelli 25GT on CMP Spitfire
Looks good Sturtz, I'm getting ready to order a 25cc GT from Scott in a couple weeks. Did you bolt the engine straight to the firewall or did you get a special mount from Scott?
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Scott has done it again. My old Spitfire has had several big 2-strokes, etc stuffed into it over the last two years. The cowling shows it too. So mounting a 25cc Toro conversion was the last thing I thought I'd ever do to this bird. But the 25ccGT with EI weighs so little that I only gained a few extra ounces. Before I weighed in at 11LBs dry. And that was with a solid pound of lead in the nose for balance. Now it weighs in at an even 12LBs and that's with two 1650mah batteries . I did replace the 16oz fuel tank with a 12oz since going gas. I never fly over 15 minutes anyway. Not too sure of the retracts yet. But like most I'm sure they will keep me busy in between flights. The old ones were bent up and under sized. These aren't much better really. 3/16 wire Hanger9 P-51 150sized stock replacements. The H9 P-51 is reported to weigh about 15LBs so they should hold up. I still need to try out some differant wheels and get my tow-in set correctly but I got some good advice in the WBs section on shimming the gear so they rake forward more.
Still,,, unless you fly warbirds every other day or more and cannot screw the pooch on the landings they tend to nose over on us guys that fly Edge 540s and other fixed gear non warbird type planes. I got fairly good with mine last summer but I know it's a constant concern for those landing on grass. I fly from a paved field but it still happens when you least expect it.
I mentioned this concern to Scott over the phone one evening and told him it worried me having a big cylinder , pipe and EI plug wire cap hanging down behind my brand new Dave Brown spinner. Scott asked for a few closeup pics of my plane in a nosed over position and said he'd look into it. That was last Thursday or Friday.
TODAY I check the mail and there is a box from Scott. It weighs like nothing. Opened it up and there is a gorgeous polished alum shark fin built just for my warbird's GT25. Not only does it protect my new engine and pipe it also protects my spinner from road rash in case of nose-over. I just removed the chromed head cover and it bolted right into place. My CH ignition ground wire fits right on one of the bolts for a solid ground.
I just wanted to thank Scott and let everyone know about his great customer service. He will go the extra mile for you and make each engine like it was built for himself. In fact I think he hates to see his little conversion children go after he test runs them. LOL Just kidding Scott,,, but I know from talking to ya how much you fuss over each one.
Haven't gotten the chance to fly it yet but if I can get the landing gear and wheels all lined up maybe this weekend's weather will allow it.
HOT ROD SPIT.
Brillelli 25cc GT
CH Electronic Ignition
17x6 APC
Condition is new still breaking in.
Fuel: 50:1 Premium gasoline and Lucas 2cycle Racing oil.
Flip starts cold on 6th flip. (It's still very new and tight but getting easier the more I run it.)
Flip starts 1st time warm.
Plane: CMP Spitfire MkII
Wingspan: 71"
Weight: 12LBs
Scott has done it again. My old Spitfire has had several big 2-strokes, etc stuffed into it over the last two years. The cowling shows it too. So mounting a 25cc Toro conversion was the last thing I thought I'd ever do to this bird. But the 25ccGT with EI weighs so little that I only gained a few extra ounces. Before I weighed in at 11LBs dry. And that was with a solid pound of lead in the nose for balance. Now it weighs in at an even 12LBs and that's with two 1650mah batteries . I did replace the 16oz fuel tank with a 12oz since going gas. I never fly over 15 minutes anyway. Not too sure of the retracts yet. But like most I'm sure they will keep me busy in between flights. The old ones were bent up and under sized. These aren't much better really. 3/16 wire Hanger9 P-51 150sized stock replacements. The H9 P-51 is reported to weigh about 15LBs so they should hold up. I still need to try out some differant wheels and get my tow-in set correctly but I got some good advice in the WBs section on shimming the gear so they rake forward more.
Still,,, unless you fly warbirds every other day or more and cannot screw the pooch on the landings they tend to nose over on us guys that fly Edge 540s and other fixed gear non warbird type planes. I got fairly good with mine last summer but I know it's a constant concern for those landing on grass. I fly from a paved field but it still happens when you least expect it.
I mentioned this concern to Scott over the phone one evening and told him it worried me having a big cylinder , pipe and EI plug wire cap hanging down behind my brand new Dave Brown spinner. Scott asked for a few closeup pics of my plane in a nosed over position and said he'd look into it. That was last Thursday or Friday.
TODAY I check the mail and there is a box from Scott. It weighs like nothing. Opened it up and there is a gorgeous polished alum shark fin built just for my warbird's GT25. Not only does it protect my new engine and pipe it also protects my spinner from road rash in case of nose-over. I just removed the chromed head cover and it bolted right into place. My CH ignition ground wire fits right on one of the bolts for a solid ground.
I just wanted to thank Scott and let everyone know about his great customer service. He will go the extra mile for you and make each engine like it was built for himself. In fact I think he hates to see his little conversion children go after he test runs them. LOL Just kidding Scott,,, but I know from talking to ya how much you fuss over each one.
Haven't gotten the chance to fly it yet but if I can get the landing gear and wheels all lined up maybe this weekend's weather will allow it.
HOT ROD SPIT.
Brillelli 25cc GT
CH Electronic Ignition
17x6 APC
Condition is new still breaking in.
Fuel: 50:1 Premium gasoline and Lucas 2cycle Racing oil.
Flip starts cold on 6th flip. (It's still very new and tight but getting easier the more I run it.)
Flip starts 1st time warm.
Plane: CMP Spitfire MkII
Wingspan: 71"
Weight: 12LBs
03-23-2006 | 11:16 AM
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RE: Brillelli 25GT on CMP Spitfire
I used dowl rods , sanded for the thrust and drilled them for the bolts. Then painted them in Olive drab fuel proof paint. (Third photo in my first post.)
Scott has contacted me about custom building a scale wrap around muffler and velocity stack if I wanted to order a new cowling to dress it up. I admit the old cowling has been hacked to death and I chose to cut out the muffler area as well. It would have been in contact with the hot muffler and burned anyway.
I'm going to see how it flys and then decide if I want to mess with more scale details on a less than scale warbird. I'm now looking at the KMP Me109-E ARF as a next scale flyer. Scott already has a Brillelli in mind for that one too. It will have all the fancy custom exhaust piping and possibly custom scale air intakes instead of a big stack sticking out of the carb.
I will probably have the ARF shipped to Scott first and let him mull over it for as long as he needs to. (Scott doesn't know it yet though. lol) Then I might just get my 109 with a gasser already installed with the mods and cowling done. (If he has the time that is. He's a busy guy.)
"Photo of KMP 109 is from the Warbirds section and belongs to a fellow RCU member."
Scott has contacted me about custom building a scale wrap around muffler and velocity stack if I wanted to order a new cowling to dress it up. I admit the old cowling has been hacked to death and I chose to cut out the muffler area as well. It would have been in contact with the hot muffler and burned anyway.
I'm going to see how it flys and then decide if I want to mess with more scale details on a less than scale warbird. I'm now looking at the KMP Me109-E ARF as a next scale flyer. Scott already has a Brillelli in mind for that one too. It will have all the fancy custom exhaust piping and possibly custom scale air intakes instead of a big stack sticking out of the carb.
I will probably have the ARF shipped to Scott first and let him mull over it for as long as he needs to. (Scott doesn't know it yet though. lol) Then I might just get my 109 with a gasser already installed with the mods and cowling done. (If he has the time that is. He's a busy guy.)
"Photo of KMP 109 is from the Warbirds section and belongs to a fellow RCU member."
03-23-2006 | 12:00 PM
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Sturtz, The wire that comes off the engine for the EI, what type of connector is that? What will it fit. I run Airtronics "Z" and Hitec. What size fuel line fits the engine best? The local hobby shop here doesn't carry gas fuel line in stock. Get a video of your plane when you fly it and post it.
03-23-2006 | 05:21 PM
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RE: Brillelli 25GT on CMP Spitfire
Sturtz, The wire that comes off the engine for the EI, what type of connector is that? What will it fit. I run Airtronics "Z" and Hitec. What size fuel line fits the engine best?
The EI plug to the engine is simply a connector ring type to use with one of the head bolts.
I'm using a clear gas tubing I purchased from Scott. It fits over standard glow tubing but needs to be secured. I'm using small zip ties inside and out of the fuel tank. The fuel tank's stopper must be for gas only as well.
03-24-2006 | 12:44 AM
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Thanks for the info Sturtz. I just sold an engine here on RC universe so I'll be giving Scott a call to order my 25cc GT with EI as soon as I get a money order in the mail. This is going to be a fun project since it's my first gasser 
. And it's a baby gasser at that 
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. And it's a baby gasser at that .
03-24-2006 | 12:50 AM
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RE: Brillelli 25GT on CMP Spitfire
Kurt,
Are you thinking of more work for me
I have some more ideas on the Spit too. I know I could make a muffler that looked like the scale row of pipes. That would be cool. When I get back from Toledo I may actually have some time to do some of that stuff. Comming up with different stuff like that is what I love to do the most. I wish I had unliminted cash. I would buy a bunch of these planes to model from amd make some nice scale mufflers. It is so hard to do from pictures and measurments.
Scott
Are you thinking of more work for me
I have some more ideas on the Spit too. I know I could make a muffler that looked like the scale row of pipes. That would be cool. When I get back from Toledo I may actually have some time to do some of that stuff. Comming up with different stuff like that is what I love to do the most. I wish I had unliminted cash. I would buy a bunch of these planes to model from amd make some nice scale mufflers. It is so hard to do from pictures and measurments. Scott
03-24-2006 | 08:59 AM
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RE: Brillelli 25GT on CMP Spitfire
I have some more ideas on the Spit too. I know I could make a muffler that looked like the scale row of pipes. That would be cool.
There is a difference with airtronics make sure to read the instructions from C and H that Scott will send with the engine
Your gonna love your new 25GT Zippi . EI is the only way to go on a gasser.
03-24-2006 | 09:51 AM
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Thanks for the info. I use an Airtronics TX and Hitec servos and receiver and everything fits even JR. I thought Futaba was the odd ball???
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There is a difference with airtronics make sure to read the instructions from C and H that Scott will send with the engine
There is a difference with airtronics make sure to read the instructions from C and H that Scott will send with the engine
03-24-2006 | 11:40 AM
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RE: Brillelli 25GT on CMP Spitfire
I've never owned Airtronics but have read that the hot wire is in the middle on their plug while JR and Futaba have it on the end. Better not trust me on that but it's something worth finding out before you plug in.
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03-24-2006 | 08:00 PM
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I just checked, Airtronics & Hitec have the red wire in the middle. Not difficult to swap them around if need be.
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I've never owned Airtronics but have read that the hot wire is in the middle on their plug while JR and Futaba have it on the end. Better not trust me on that but it's something worth finding out before you plug in.
Larry
I've never owned Airtronics but have read that the hot wire is in the middle on their plug while JR and Futaba have it on the end. Better not trust me on that but it's something worth finding out before you plug in.
Larry
03-24-2006 | 09:04 PM
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I've had my eye on this plane by Wildhare also for the 25cc GT. Think the 25cc is enough engine???
http://www.wildharerc.com/Products/Edge120/edge.html
http://www.wildharerc.com/Products/Edge120/edge.html
03-24-2006 | 11:56 PM
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RE: Brillelli 25GT on CMP Spitfire
I had a guy call me the other day about the 25 on that plane. I think it would fly it pretty good, but not have a ton of extra power. I don't think it would have unlimited vertical either. The weight would be abolut 12.5-13 lbs with the 25cc. Id depends on your style of flying. For the ultimate in preformance an OS 1.60 would for sure fit the bill I would just hate to say the 25 will do a great job, because I am not sure. We are getting an Extra 300 ready that is the same size and weight for the 25cc. It will be a few weeks before we test fly it. Then I will have a better idea about a plane like that.
I would just hate to say the 25 will do a great job, because I am not sure. We are getting an Extra 300 ready that is the same size and weight for the 25cc. It will be a few weeks before we test fly it. Then I will have a better idea about a plane like that.
03-25-2006 | 08:44 AM
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I'm still kicking the tires on a few planes to see what my 25cc project is going to be. Sounds like the KMP models like the Giles 202 and the Katana S are nice planes but the covering is not to good and may be an issue. Lets see some pics of the Giles 202 with the 25cc on the business end guys. If things go as planned, I'll be giving you a call next week on the 25cc GT Scott .
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I had a guy call me the other day about the 25 on that plane. I think it would fly it pretty good, but not have a ton of extra power. I don't think it would have unlimited vertical either. The weight would be abolut 12.5-13 lbs with the 25cc. Id depends on your style of flying. For the ultimate in preformance an OS 1.60 would for sure fit the bill I would just hate to say the 25 will do a great job, because I am not sure. We are getting an Extra 300 ready that is the same size and weight for the 25cc. It will be a few weeks before we test fly it. Then I will have a better idea about a plane like that.
I had a guy call me the other day about the 25 on that plane. I think it would fly it pretty good, but not have a ton of extra power. I don't think it would have unlimited vertical either. The weight would be abolut 12.5-13 lbs with the 25cc. Id depends on your style of flying. For the ultimate in preformance an OS 1.60 would for sure fit the bill
I would just hate to say the 25 will do a great job, because I am not sure. We are getting an Extra 300 ready that is the same size and weight for the 25cc. It will be a few weeks before we test fly it. Then I will have a better idea about a plane like that.
03-25-2006 | 12:28 PM
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RE: Brillelli 25GT on CMP Spitfire
I would maybe wait and see how Jims does with it. That plane is actually a little bigger I think, so if it does good on that, then the one you are looking at will be even better. I know they do well on a plane like a Funtana 90.
03-25-2006 | 12:56 PM
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How well does the Funatan .90 do with a small 25cc gasser? You got me interested. Any photos or links to find more data on the combo? Thanks Capt,n
03-26-2006 | 02:04 PM
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RE: Brillelli 25GT on CMP Spitfire
Hey converts look at this plane from GSP it sure ia a great candidate for any 25CC engine, let me konw what you think about it, at $124.99 I think is worth it!!!!http://www.giantscaleplanes.com/Extr...xtra300_65.htm
03-26-2006 | 06:29 PM
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RE: Brillelli 25GT on CMP Spitfire
Weight on this GSP looks about right. Depends on the final weight after mounting the engine. Also you save some weight using an EI .
03-26-2006 | 10:10 PM
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Zippi
I will let you know how the CMP Giles-202 works out with the Brillelli 25GT. I have it here and will be putting it together once I get back from the RC show in Toledo in a couple of weeks. The only thing wrong with the CMP Giles-202 is you have to use a monokote sealer on the trim other wise it may come loss during flight. The plane weighs in at 10.25lbs with a OS Glow 160 2- stroke. That engine weighs 2lbs. The Brillelli 25GT with EI is a little under 3lbs. That should give me a scale stunt plane weighing around 12lbs or less. With the Brillelli 25GT spinning a APC 17x6 prop at 8800 RPM and pulling 14lbs thrust I cannot weight to fly this bird. I'll keep you in touch.
I will let you know how the CMP Giles-202 works out with the Brillelli 25GT. I have it here and will be putting it together once I get back from the RC show in Toledo in a couple of weeks. The only thing wrong with the CMP Giles-202 is you have to use a monokote sealer on the trim other wise it may come loss during flight. The plane weighs in at 10.25lbs with a OS Glow 160 2- stroke. That engine weighs 2lbs. The Brillelli 25GT with EI is a little under 3lbs. That should give me a scale stunt plane weighing around 12lbs or less. With the Brillelli 25GT spinning a APC 17x6 prop at 8800 RPM and pulling 14lbs thrust I cannot weight to fly this bird. I'll keep you in touch.
03-27-2006 | 09:38 AM
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Post some pics as your working on the 202 jstanton. Soneone in the "ARF or RTF" has put a virtual cockpit in the 202. No pics as of yet. I still need to maiden my Lazer 200 whenever we get some good weather.
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Zippi
I will let you know how the CMP Giles-202 works out with the Brillelli 25GT. I have it here and will be putting it together once I get back from the RC show in Toledo in a couple of weeks. The only thing wrong with the CMP Giles-202 is you have to use a monokote sealer on the trim other wise it may come loss during flight. The plane weighs in at 10.25lbs with a OS Glow 160 2- stroke. That engine weighs 2lbs. The Brillelli 25GT with EI is a little under 3lbs. That should give me a scale stunt plane weighing around 12lbs or less. With the Brillelli 25GT spinning a APC 17x6 prop at 8800 RPM and pulling 14lbs thrust I cannot weight to fly this bird. I'll keep you in touch.
Zippi
I will let you know how the CMP Giles-202 works out with the Brillelli 25GT. I have it here and will be putting it together once I get back from the RC show in Toledo in a couple of weeks. The only thing wrong with the CMP Giles-202 is you have to use a monokote sealer on the trim other wise it may come loss during flight. The plane weighs in at 10.25lbs with a OS Glow 160 2- stroke. That engine weighs 2lbs. The Brillelli 25GT with EI is a little under 3lbs. That should give me a scale stunt plane weighing around 12lbs or less. With the Brillelli 25GT spinning a APC 17x6 prop at 8800 RPM and pulling 14lbs thrust I cannot weight to fly this bird. I'll keep you in touch.
