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Old 03-24-2008 | 06:08 PM
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Default Toro 25 and Ryobi 31-same troubles!!

I have a Toro 25 on a Cap and a Ryobi 31 on a Stingray and they both run great on the ground. They idle great,
rev up and scream at full throttle. When I get them in the air all of a sudden they don't rev up , they sound like
they are running rich, I've played with the needles with no improvement. I flew they 31 again yesterday and it's
doing the same thing, after I landed and taxied over I stood with my legs against the elevator and it reved up fine,
any ideas?? thanks ...Craig
Old 03-24-2008 | 07:25 PM
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Craig,
I have had a Toro 25CC for going on three years. I had the same problem you did. I was told to solder a brass tube
on the other side of the Walbro Carb. (opposite side of the fuel in line) There is a small hole already there. Put a
piece of gas tubing on the new brass tube and put it back into your fuse. That worked for me. Also you can buy a
Velosity Stack for your Walbro Carb.

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Old 03-24-2008 | 07:35 PM
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Louie,Louie, OK I'll try that, may be difficult with the Cap , it's very open into the fuse. The engine is mounted on a "box" that's
open into the fuse. Maybe I can close it up with some balsa or something. The stingray should be straight foward except it's
such a pain getting the motor out. Did anybody else have this experience ?
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Craig,
About 75% of all the flyer's that I talked too had the same problem. Some fixed it by soldering the air vent I told you
about and others used the Velosity Stack. Some used both.
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Old 03-24-2008 | 08:03 PM
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Default RE: Toro 25 and Ryobi 31-same troubles!!

OK thank you, louie,louie, I don't think I'll get a stack on the Ryobi and I have one on the Toro so I guess I have to vent them
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Old 03-24-2008 | 08:27 PM
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Do you think I'll have to play with the needles again, or will they be good where they are,
both engines are perfect on the ground....Craig
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What the vent does is stabilize the air presure senced by the rear diaphram.
I have mine vented through the firewall and the Toro runs great.

I put mine on when I was doing the conversion so I can't say it helped.
But it does run extreamly good.
The small yellow line is the pulse line.
The blue line is the one were talking about.
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Old 03-24-2008 | 11:04 PM
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I can't see where the blue line is going , but I'm guessing it goes to the plate that has a little hole in it? And then run
a line into the fuse where it's out of the wind? So if I tap this hole and put in a little nipple like on the 40 size mufflers
and stik a line on it and run it into the fuse I should be OK? Is that right? Craig
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Yes

I used a larger nipple. Du-Bro Cataloge number 539.
It's 8-32 pressure fitting.

Smaller may work okay but I know this one works.

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i just enlarged the little hole to a 1/8" hole then soldered a pc of 1/8" brass tube in.
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OK thank you all very much, I'll try that and let you know what happens this weekend.....weather permitting!
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There are a lot of things about California I don't like ....... But it was 74 degrees yesterday. [8D]
Old 03-25-2008 | 08:42 PM
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well I guess that's a little better than 28* with wind out of the north at 20 !!!
Old 03-28-2008 | 03:26 PM
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well I put in the vent tube into the fuse ,cleaned and gaped the plug, and changed the prop to a wood 18x6
had a MA 18x6 that was beat up. It's better but not what I think it should be. Next thing I'll change is the fuel,
I'm using what I stole out of my kids four wheeler and not 100% sure of the mix. What are you guys using for
props? and what rpm are you getting? Once this is runnig right the next project is SMOKE !!!

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