Does anyone make a Helicopter balancer for the whole helo not just the blades , and if so web addy ????


Thks

Well I looked for one long ago and didnt find anything so I designed my own. The stand I came up with has a spot to hang the heli from the fly bar to do ballancing and there is also a spot to put it to set the blade pitch. I had a hard time setting this because to get an accurate reading the fly bar needs to stay level. The stand is designed is for a stock HBK2 with the Align landing gear, but could be used with the stock landing gear if you added a spacer to the bottom to make up for the added heigth of the Align landing gear. If it looks like something you would like let me know I can figure out a price (never realy planed on selling them). It is made out of 1/2" thick pvc (kinda like pvc pipe, but comes in sheets for making signs) and is cut out on my CNC router. Thanks, Jeff

Ole hell yea that is exactly what I am looking for DUDE make them, sell them, we will buy them!!! lolol really you need to patient that first though kik ass

TELL ME HOW MUCH I AM THERE

How does $20 + Shipping sound?? Looks like shipping (Priority Mail) would be some where between $5.05 and $8.25 depending on where you are. Right now I only have white materal in stock so if that is ok we are good to go. It can also be spray painted to any color you like. Thanks, Jeff

White is Fine build it bro I will gladly pay you for it )

I dont get it.
Just rest the fly bar on your finger tips.
Whats much more important that you cant do by hand is balancing the head, the tail, and both with the blades attached.
You can buy a prop balancer for about $25 that will do that for you.

Oh for chris sake just put blades stright out up and down the body/boom this will set the fly bars at 90 deg to the body and slide a finger under each side of the fly bar and pick it up! Its not a big thing and it actually does NOT have to be perfect. All you want to see is it hang pretty much level or a little nose down and NO the fly bar paddels do not really have to be level as they don't really affect the balance. Heck if you want you can even loop a string around the head pretty much any old way and pick it up as long as the blades are opened up, also if you do it with the string it does not make any diff if the blades are fore/aft or sideways as they are on the same moment in suspension in relation to the head and center axis. Usually you adjust the fore-aft balance buy sliding the battery forward (if you need to add a balsa plywood extension to the battery tray so you can at least velcro the battery in place) Don't even worry about the right and left lean on it as you will trim that out with the swash links first time you fly it.

Blade balancing is done with a gram scale and a ruler. There are many threads on that its quck and easy. You don't even need a fancy scale only something you can lay the blade over so you can balance it like a teeter totter. Never mind trying to balance the entire head on a king as the parts are so close to the center of axis you really will end out rebalancing the blades to balance the head. A king has much too small and light a head to worry about trying to balance a 3 gram plastic blade holder part when your parts on the head only very by .1 gram. Worry about the 142 gram (blade weights very from one blade to another) blade being 2 grams heavier then the opposing blade or not balancing at the same point along it's length.

Funflyer whats your problem *&^hole . I bet you lead a boring life if all you have to do is flame on forums, and I do not care what you think I think jstern helo balancer rocks. I have treid the string thing and the finger thing. One more thing for chris sake get a life!


Jstern429 he is just jealous he did not think of it first.

Wow, that was a little harsh.

HArsh look at what he wrote no need for that if it bothered him do not look at the post that's all

Jstern....I think it is a cool idea! something else to have around during setup...I'll steal your idea and build one out of plywood..Good job!..S

I think all FF saying is this hobby is expensive as it is. And most don't need another gadget to help accomplish something you can do with your fingers and why make something more complicated than it is???

So there really wasn't a need for the return flame. Everyone has an opinion. I really didn't see any disrespect in FF's post about the stand.

If a person wants one.. great if not... thats ok too but theres no need to get excited over it.

happy fly'n

Man I am not sure that I want to even get in the middel of this. The ballancing location on the stand was just an added bonus, even I have held it up with two fingers ( and I agree it is just that simple). It is sometimes easer to do if you are moving things around trying to get it ballanced if you dont have to hold it ( I am sure that everyone here wished at some point that they had 3 hands). The real reason I designed it was for setting the blade pitch as you need to hold the fly bar level and if the fly bar moves it changes the reading on the pitch (see the third picture). With the heli in the front slot and the skids on the bottom base when you move the swash up and down it will only allow the blades to twist showing the pitch in the blades. Without some how holding the fly bar level there is no way to get an accurate reading on the pitch. I was something I came up with to make my life easer in working on my heli and I never was going to sell them, but if anyone out there likes the idea I am willing to help out.

Hey bro... no worries... I think you have a very good idea and it shows that ur not stuck in a box doing everything the 'accepted' way of doing things... This is how inventions come about. If nobody adapted, improved or wired and duct taped then we'd all still be cook'n by campfire.

You show inventiveness and all anyone did was simply say, in their opinion, that it wasn't needed. But thats their opinion... thats all. for them they don't need it... others may so its a good idea. I say keep on tweeking.

happy Fly'n

Ya know I was kind of taken back by some of the coments made by some of you, but after thinking about it for a while I welcome all of your comments. I started to think of it this way, stop and think how many "useless gadgets" we use on a daily basis. At lease when they were invented they were considered unnessary or useless. How are you reading this message?? A computer, useless when it was first invented for the common person, but every one has at least one. Someone mentioned spending $25 for a prop ballancer, heack dosnt a piece of threaded rod and a few nuts do the job just as well. Not to mention other things that were considered useless inventions when they were invented like Cars, light bulbs, electric razer, airplanes and just about everthing we touch on a daily basis was considered unnessary at some point in time. I guess I will have one heack of a time reading all the comments you have all left when I am sitting back counting my millions that I made on a useless "Gadget".

I like the contraption for purposes of finding zero pitch. As for finding CG, you have to move stuff around and then mount the canopy, check CG, then do it all over again. I can't see this making it easier for CG.

I do condone and praise inventions that will make any part of working on Heli's easier to do. I like the thought and design of your balancer. I think you have the makings of something pretty slick...Now, partner with me and lets hammer out some CNC G-10 frames! Hehe

Keep that mind a-churning!

Peace,

Z

Well Zimatosa pm me and I can send you an address. If you want to send me some patterns I might be able to cut some. Now I cant make any promises seeing that I have only cut plactics, wood and some thin aluminum, but I am willing to try to cut fiberglass or graphite.

I was actually thinking it would be a better product if it had only a single arm on one side only that it hung by. That way you could get at the heli easily from any angle, no?

happy fly'n

Denny: Take a freakin chill pill before you hyperventilate! [X(]
READ the post, its in fun, DO YOU REALLY need a happy face to understand it? ok here ya go
IF I intend to flame someone I am not going to bother with there jigs or tips, thats what forums are about.
If I wanted to flame someone I go after them personally and rip on their Truck or there Dog or the kind of Lite beer they drink or they are Red Dwarf fans.[>:]

Not on their toys (helis are sacred toys).
Amen!

JS
ok someone beat you to this about 20 years ago! Hirobo had one out but it turned out to be a dud because of a couple of things.
Biggest was it cost about 30$ that was in 87 and only fit there one model heli (the Shuttle) and only with its stock landing gear and stock canopy.
I see you have your balancer holding the heli by the flybar and not even close to the base of the flybar![X(]
This is a really big no no. Yes, I know we all do it but its bad for the flybar AND ther related parts and links. I have no idea where anyone came up with the idea of using the flybar to pick up a heli to balance it with, but it was some idiot that had NO clue in the world what they were doing or the damage they could cause to that little rod with the funny paddles on the ends. Guess is it looked convenient is all.
Some how this idea of using the flybar to balance it got handed down from one moron another and as the rest of the world discovered fire and learned to tend crops many still are nut and berry gathers and insist on picking the heli up by the flybar. They probably pick up the kids by one arm also...[]
That piece of wire even slightly bent can cause all sorts of havec on blade pitch and tracking. So while you balanced your heli you just created a new problem in the process Now you end out trying to figure out why your pitch is so far off on one side to the other (this will be covered another time I get a soapbox to stand on)
As you progress to a size 30 nitro you will find you never pick up a heli by the flybar as it WILL bend it . a .32 gas and 30 Electric are NO where near the same size and weight.
Yes, and again, I know we all use the flybar to balance it, bad habits are hard to break...
Soo..
Suggest you readjust the arms to fit under the blade holders near or on where the bolt goes through it that is where the load on the blades is exerted and in flight that is what supports the entire heli. Possibly make a recess for the nut to actually fit loosely into so it does not slip or move around.
Also make one side of the jig adjustable so you can fit more then just the King in it, versitility is the key here, if the arms are long enough or adjustable and the entire unit can say be folded (think some cheap simple hinge arrangement on the uprights) it would be more idel for field use other then just on a bench, (only mentioned as a selling point) "fits all popular 300-500 size Electric helis"
Already seen a few diff versions over the years, I personally stick to a hook on a string I hang from beams in the basement.
Much the same system I have used on my planes for the last 40+ years and it works fine
In all its a better basic design the most have been (except the flybar thing) as you are accounting for diff skids (means diff helis too) [8D]

OOhhh man... I'm a red dwarf fan....

DumbDawg <- runs like hell away from FF whos throwing firebrands and berries at DD

Happy fly'n

OMG Fun I think we both need a chill pill lolol I think I agree with you about hanging helo from flybar. Do you just use 2 strings from a beam or something like that ?????? I am anal about tracking and balancing.

Does anyone know where to get the plastic tubes for the antenna ??????

One string and piece of wire.
Two strings is a unnecessary expense $$.
I use the fine tubing they sell in fish supply stores. Hobby shops want too much for the "Antenna" tubing.

Cool and if I took what you posted wrong I apologize I need all the friends I can get my wife is soon to find out I bought another helo and all hell is going to break out here lololololololol

OMG guys, I can not stop laughing....Thanks! [sm=thumbs_up.gif]

Z