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Old 02-27-2008 | 10:25 PM
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Ok Brotherhood I have to give one of our fellows here alot of credit for really doing a great job for our hobby. I asked Hilleyja to put some pilot logos together for me and let me tell you for the money i spent I have to say I got way more than I paid for I think. I have to say its people like this that makes this hobby well worth the investment. If there were more people to step up like this and extend their talent to others this would be a great world to live in. Once again i think all of us here should take our hats off to Hilleyja for making our brotherhood logos, I know in my world time is money and for the small amount he asked for the logos we got way more than we paid for. Well I am looking forward to morning to put some of my logos on my birds, I will post many pics of Hilleyja's fine work. Thanks!
Old 02-28-2008 | 08:59 AM
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Ok so here is just a few of my planes that have been dressed with the great work of one of our brotherhood members. Thanks Hilleyja you rock. I have to say that they are complete now. And oh yeah that is another TVVist in the pictures. I have the 40 and the 150 I was going to get the 60 but a few giants took its place. Well there they are looking all shiny and pretty ready to fly our friendly skies.
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Old 02-28-2008 | 11:47 AM
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Looks pretty Cool. Yes Hilleyja did A great job on the logo's For the brotherhood. And they are of exceptional quality. I will be adding Names to my Aircraft for the pilots here Soon wont be anything quite as good as yours just going to print out the names and cut them out and use 3M spray addhesive and stick the name on.
Will have Col Linkadrip for the twsit 150, Capt Snoopy for the twist 40 and Gen Old fart for the pitts 40. I'm a joker Didnt think i would put my name on there Did ya. Since each plane has there own pilot have to be a little differnt

As far as the Tie fighter goes in my Extra 330L i don't know what to call him. So i guess he wont get a name for awhile till i can think up some strange or bizarr rank for him. He wrecked the plane once already. But it was a Techinical malfunction servo failure and i have to give him credit for Bringing it in without to much damage.
Call me strange but i think every plane needs to have a personal pilot make it unique and give the aircraft a personality of it's own. Of course there are the phantom planes that ghost fly and i guess thats ok too.

Going to maiden the TwsiT 150 this Friday Col Linkadrip will be flying this powerhouse with A BCMA SPE 26CC engine finally will get to see if this engine is all they say it is. second gas plane been waiting all winter to do it and now i'm finally going to get to.

Well off to the hobby store i go. For some more stuff.
Old 02-28-2008 | 04:12 PM
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[sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif] ''Well of to the hobby store i go. For some more stuff.''

I can definately relate to that.

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Old 02-28-2008 | 04:33 PM
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One thing that used to drive me crazy was having to go to the Hobby Shop for little bits of hardware socket screws etc. I found out about a place that only sells Hobby hardware and recommend it wholeheartedly

[link]http://www.rtlfasteners.com[/link]
Old 02-28-2008 | 07:26 PM
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Hello,

I havent really posted much in the Aircraft section of this thread but I have 7 planes and I am looking into building a Twist 150 but I want to build a gasser so it will be unique and cheap to operate. My target is a Sport plane that I can throw into 3D whenever I feel like it. The Twist is cheap and it catches my eye and now it is a gasser size. So what size engine would be sutiable for this plane??? I was looking at a SPE-26 with a electronic Ignition. Would this enigne be powerful enough to hover and such. Also I am unsure about the servos and radio. I would probaly need a 7ch Radio so I can add smoke and such later if I want. So let me know what you think and what is a great match for this plane!!

Thanks Guys

Jason
Old 02-28-2008 | 07:45 PM
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I'm running the BCMA SPE 26 on mine Seems to have plenty of power will know tommarrow when i take it out for it's maiden flight. I'm running an 8 Channel Radio system in it. only using 6 of the channels but i have flaperons on it in case it doesnt want to slow down on landing i hate using them but just incase.

It weighs a little over 12Lbs. Cg is at 5 1/2 inches probably will have to move the battery back and Consider getting a Small fuel tank the one that comes with it is crambed in there and with gas a large fuel tank isn't really neccesary.
If you put the BCMA Spe 26 CC engine in it like i did you will have to get the 2 inch extensions for the Engine if you want to keep the cheeks on the front of it. Or you can do like other have and chope them off. It is a Challenge to mount the gas engine on there or at least it was for me. So far running it up on the ground with the 16X8 prop on it turns 9200 rpm full throttle and feels like it has plenty of thrust and power.



I'm sure tommarrow is going to be a real Gasser.
Old 02-28-2008 | 08:24 PM
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Jason,

Check my posts on this thread, #592 and #594. I have the Evolution 26GT2 Gas engine on my Twist 150. It is a very nice Gas engine, it starts easily, runs until I cut it off, and has power to spare.

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Old 02-29-2008 | 04:51 PM
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I would suggest getting the Evo 26 for this plane since it is desighned for it. I maidened my Twsit 150 today flew good was alot of fun. WInd speeds were 10 to 15 mph it climbs pretty good BUt it kinda just slumbers along at full throttle Not as fast as the TwsiT 40 i have with the OS 61. I'm thinking i need to change to a smaller pitch prop to get more speed and a faster climb rate. and i definetly need to move my CG back had to trim up elevator a littel to get it to fly level at half throttle.

Did a few loops and rolls. It rolls better then the Twist 40 Didnt try any waterfalls or flatspins Since i was testing it out. In verticle climb the engine Spit and spudered a little and then coming out of the loops it would go back to normal operation. thinking i need a Velocity stack on it to help the situation. Still was alot of fun landing was Not to bad. Considering i had a 10 mph cross wind. Someone needs to Turn the runway toward the wind were i fly trying to land in a cross wind sure is difficult. Good thing the rudder was invented Dont think it would be possable to land in a cross wind without it.

Had 2 15 minute Flights on a half tank of Fuel but was flying most the flight full throttle too. Very docile flying plane with this engine. HAve a few thing that have to be Strenghthen on it but not to much. Sure hope i can get more performance out of this engine. i think the evo 26 is lighter then this one. a lighter engine is probably a better choice.

But it will pull verticle and hover and climb out of it. but not as fast as i would like.

But i had fun At least i'm not nervous flying it. like i am the twist 40 that flys a break neck speeds and scares the He** out of me sometimes.

Just thought i woud share my flying experience today.
Old 02-29-2008 | 05:14 PM
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My 150 with an Evo 26GT2 and a 16 X 8 prop goes like a raped ape.

I also use an expansion chamber that allows the engine to work better. IMHO.

Very Happy with my setup
Old 02-29-2008 | 05:54 PM
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Expansion Chamber???
Old 02-29-2008 | 05:59 PM
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I meant to say tuned pipe..LOL
Old 02-29-2008 | 06:05 PM
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Took me a minute to figure it out. lol Check my engines Forum and it mentioned using a larger expansinon chamber increases horse power some. My engine should performe better with the pitts Muffler which i'm considering will have to make mods to the plane to fit it but will get better performance. My tuning is Probably off and that why i'm not getting optimum performance. i tuned the engine in the winter when it was cold and today it was 70 out and it was 40 when i tuned it. So its running a tad on the rich side.

Going to retune and try it out again tommarrow Should be better hopefully.
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The Pitts will be better than the standard can those things come with.
Old 03-02-2008 | 03:03 PM
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Well retuned engine and it was running on the rich side but I haven’t gotten to go out a fly again. Another winter storm moved in and the wind speed are in the 15 mph range up to 50 mph gust But hopefully will be moving out tomorrow.

I'm sure it will perform better it was running 600 rpm below peak rpm of 9200. Must be why it would just slumber along at full throttle. Retuned now getting 9000 rpm full throttle. So I’m sure it will perform better this next flight.

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Considering you are interested in this plane. I don’t know how much experience you have with RC airplanes. And even though the SPE BCMA 26CC engine is A Cheap engine Compared to others. if you don’t have allot of experience in modifying planes. I would recommend going with the manufactures recommended Engines for the plane. will save you in the long run alot of frustration not an easy engine to mount IMO.

Some other equipment was necessary to mount this engine and would be considered a custom installation. A flex Cable for the throttle has to be used or some other customized throttle connection and 2 inch standoffs had to be purchased separate from the ones that come with the engine from the Seller. For the purpose of getting the engine out far enough past the cheeks.
As a first gas plane I’m not sure if it would be the best to Recommend. Really depends on your experience with RC planes . This is my second gas plane and my 4th RC airplane. I thought really long and hard before I Bought this engine To mount on this plane and mainly purchased it because of the price.

Manual for this plane May help a little too.
http://www.hobbyzone.com/documents/HAN4525-manual.pdf

According to your profile you have
4 years building
- 4 years operating
- Intermediate pilot
So seems you have enough experience to take on the task. Just be prepared to do more then would be neccessary to mount a Recomended Engine if your going to keep the cheeks on it and the cheeks have to be re enforced with epoxy.






Old 03-02-2008 | 09:06 PM
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So just a little update from twistedskies......I got into the garage today for a gallon of run time on my new planes. I had to break in a Magnum180xl and a new OS 46. I got both running top notch for now. Its still a little cold here so final tuning will be on maiden day for all of my planes. I did get to measure the thrust on my big magnum, witha 20x8 master I am getting around 35 pounds. I think that should fly the wings off my big cap, she weighs a mere 15.4 pounds bringing thrust to weight to 2to1. Hello 3d! On the "magic" side of things I sure am impressed with the running charachteristics on the 46ax. It fired right up right out of the box and was running great even rich, when I did get some fuel through it I leaned it out a little to hear her really pull and WOW she really screams. Well the 2 of my twists are both broke in also, my 40 twist has been flown alot already and the 150 has yet to leave the ground but she has about 3/4 gallon through it on the ground. The rest of break in on her will be carving through the sky. Well if you cant hear it in my voice I had a great day of tinkering with the birds now just give me some warm weather and I am out of this jail I call home. Until next post all you guys in nice weather HAVE FUN FLYING!
Old 03-05-2008 | 06:56 PM
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Well Heres an in flight video of The twist 150. Mounted the camera upside down didnt know which way was right side up, lol Do now well flew alot better today except that the engine died on my and i had a dead stick landing. Ripped the Landing gear off and the pilot did a face plant in the cock pit but it's fixable and will fly again. Would have been a good landing but a wind gust slamed it down into the ground.

Baffeled why the engine quit like it did.Hmmm Well maybe it was just one of them things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NStVM4CWCi8

First test with camera it worked guess thats allthat matters Next video will be done a little different for one camera will be right side up lol.

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Good first try! First off: Don't make me stand on my head again to see your next video.. Next, I would try to use some foamy material or a sponge between the fuse and the camera to reduce the vibration...notice how clear the picture got when the engine died. What kind of camera system you using?

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Old 03-05-2008 | 08:43 PM
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Had foam between the camera and the fuselage. but it didnt seem to help much. Going to locate it in a different place next time and will make sure it's righ side up.

Heres some pictures of the camera used you can find them on ebay. I have a 2GB SD card in mine otherwise the video is only a few seconds. But hopefully the next video will be better if not then i wont post it.

I had to make a Camer holder for it with a mirror on it to mount it were is would shoot video foward so the camera can lay flat. other wise you have to mount it to the side of the plane mine was mounted on top of the tank hatch. a little to close to the engine. And it picked up alot of vibration. Have to tak a picture of it. then it will be easier to understand what i'm talking about.

Going to to some mods now that i have it appart Re enforce the lading gear area and going to move the RX battery back behind the cockpit and make the whole front underside solid. lots of epoxy. Heres some pics of the damage its not too bad just glad i belly landed and it wasn't a nose plant. Wing didnt suffer any damge so i'm releived.
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Old 03-06-2008 | 04:22 AM
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Well after about 5 hours of work tonight out in the shop it is almost fixed. Would have been done sooner but i had to mount the Pitts muffler on it. was just to good an opportunity to modify the plane for it. Still quite a bit to do before it's ready for the air again, have a few more mods to do bracing and hatch making and moving batteries around. Get that CG back as far as i can trying for the 6 inch mark.

Have to Figure out how im gonna get my pilot back in there have an idea hope it works, pretty sure it will he wont be doing any more face plants in the cock pit thats for sure cant belive i glued him to the Monocoat and didnt put a plate under him, well not this time hes gonna be Solid live and learn.

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Old 03-06-2008 | 03:39 PM
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This past Sunday was an Indian Summer for us West Virginians. I put my Twist in the air 4 times -- went through about a quart of fuel.

I definitely need to put some time into flight trims. I suspect my balance is way off on both my horizontal and virtical axis. I could not even get it to hover for more than a few seconds. Even a stall turn was difficult. None of this had anything to do with engine performance because one of the maneuvers I did not have difficulty with was pointing her straight up and watch her dissappear -- unlimited virtical +++. One other thing I noticed that I did not have with my 40-size twist was her tendency to drop stall on a slow landing approach. Lucky for me it occurred when she was practically on the ground. She also balloons too quickly, making elevator control very touchy. With these types of birds I like to just shut the engine down to idle and float into a landing -- I shouldn't have to drive them into a landing like a war bird or pattern plane.
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Yes i noticed that the 40 doesnt fly like the 150 in alot of ways i dont know if its the weight or what my 40 floats in for landings at idel. this plane i have had to power it in like a warbird. And found out the other day that it doesn't land real good with no power. It stalled about 2 feet above the ground and smaked down on the ground belly landing lucky all that got hurt was the landing gear came off and the prop broke from hittin gthe ground to hard.[:@]

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What is your CG on your 150? Mine was at about 5 1/2 to 3/4.

Dont know now since i put the pitts muffler on it which took some of the weight off only 5 OZ not much but may help some. Not going to put a spinner back on it. so that will eliminate a couple more OZ's. Spinner wasn't neccessary anyway since i start it with the flick of my hand. Thinking i'm not going to put the pilot back. just fix the hole in the covering pilot weighs 6 OZ. Trying to get as much weight out of it as i can i think will help keep it from wanting to drop stall on those slow landing approaches hopefully.

Going to have to look up terminoligy again.

She also balloons too quickly
Trying to picture this in my mind and see a ballon floating into the sky..

I notice elevator control on both TwsiT can be touchy.
Old 03-10-2008 | 07:36 PM
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Hey all! I am glad I am seeing some people are able to get out and fly cause I sure havent had the weather to do so. I am looking forward to Sunday once again to get out and fly but who knows what the weather is going to be. The liar on TV said that is going to be in the 40's so that is plenty warm for me almost short and t-shirt weather for us Michiganders. Oh well you guys be safe out there.
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I can sum up our weather here on the eastern shore of Maryland in one word: WINDY! And that's no lie.

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Old 03-15-2008 | 02:07 AM
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Well it's been Windy here Too Lately. Looks like i'm not going to get to test my Upgrades this weekend. But at least i got to run it and tune it a little. Sure runs different with a velocity stack and a 3 blade prop alot more thrust. and runs alot smoother then it did should be alot of fun. Going to have to re check my CG moved my RX battery back behind the cockpit.
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