Reviews are based on older versions. The Turnigy engine had very bad first batches. Biggest problem was the magnets coming loose.

We're now about 2 revisions further and Turnigy has cleaned up their act.

Again, I have seen this engine perform in real life, and it out-performs the hacker. Also it stays a lot cooler. I'm considering replacing my Hacker with it...

(and as for Hacker Quality.. see this, this was my engine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onzZA...layer_embedded

I had to glue the thing together to get the 'looseness' out..

Hezik

One of the guys at our field is flying a Turnigy motor on 5S in his Angel 50 and it has better vertical performance than the stock Hacker setup on 6S. He is drawing more amps though!

regards

John

PS anyone know where I can get a Dualsky 6360"X" motor mount in the Uk or Europe? Apparently it will fit my Axi 5530/18.

My experience with the older Turnigy was bad, took a 5055 and put it in my Angel, started her up to test the amp draw and within seconds the magnet came loose. Sigh ... hope the new ones are better, they are heck of a lot cheaper though. Unfortunately, DualSky does not have a 48mm motor that will be suitable for 10S.

tIANci

The guy running the Turnigy in his Angel is also going Turnigy for his Wind on 10S I will try to get the motor details from him if you are interested.

John

John ... you speak about it now, after I have received my Scorpion???!!! Aarrrgggghhhh ... heheheheehe ... let her rip! I wanna see some data for both planes. This is interesting.

tIANci

Never mind, the Scorpion is a good motor.

John

Guys ..... just test fly my 110 this evening . Wow , i must say that the Scropion 4035 250kv is a kick axx power house ..... !!

Before i take it to the sky , i check with Watts -meter showing that with 18x10 APC-E 77amp n 2600w on the grown , i think that

the reading amp is higher than 4035-250 statedbeing 65 amp MAX continue , so i prop it down to 17x10APC-E and getting 63amp n

2400w , i just go with the 17x10 for the safe side not to burn the motor ........ Oh yes , i am using 10s setup 2x 4900mah 5s Rhino20c.

I managed to get 4min flight time only , as the rain is coming soon .... not much triming have been done , just fly it and see how the

4035-250 handle the 110 , well power is well OVER !! you can go vertical with about 70% "still have 30%" power left to spare if you

need it . . . . just do some simple p-09 menuever...... i like the snap very much"with low rate" the plane snap well and stop when you

release the control stick n it stay on the line !

Landing is most interesting , i think it land easier than my Angle 50 .... it still feel "FLOATY" with 10s setup with 4350 g ...... just turn

and come in with a three point landing 'nose up abit' , really nice !!!

Will fly it tomorrow evening again and do some cg check and triming .....

huison2005,

Congratulation for your successful maiden flight. I ordered the same motor and hopefully it will arrive soon. My set up will be very similar to yours. I have the same batteries that you have. Good to know that even the plane is heavier with those batteries, but the flight characteristics are not affected.

I wonder why Seb makes the push rods so long, fixing it is tiring! Anyways, the supplied ball links are not the smoothest, will use it for the moment and change to Dubro 2mm ones, am using that on the ailerons and they are much smoother. I also got some M4 countersunk screws as recommended by Hezik. Mounting the motor is a real chore ...I opted for the wires to exit at the bottom, then along the length of the motor, coming out from the former ... I will need to double check to ensure that the motor wires are not rubbing against the can. This is the most frustrating part of the build.

Can't wait to see how fun this plane is.

tIANci

I ran the motor wiring just as you have yours, under the motor, and it works
fine. You will have to move your speed controller to the side on the small plywood
plate because you have it now where you will need to put your batteries.

tommy s

Here are some pic for those with 10s setup , 2 lipos push all the way back to get the cg right ........

today i have done some triming , ke from left to right 5% up elevator mix , right to left 8% . down line 1.5 %down elevator . ........

i fly for 8 min full p-09 menuever , come down and have a check with the the lipo "just start to warm" , motor warm , esc , warm ... lipo check 3.925v percell 10s !!

Rhino4900mah 20c 5s x2pcs . . . .

Tommy ... am running 10S 4,900s ... it needs to go all the way back so not to worry. Huison has the same set up and his packs were sitting at the back. Fitted on the XOAR 17x10 and she looks nice. Will finish off the pull-pull tomorrow and hopefully maiden her on Sunday. I am truly lazy ... heheheehe ...

You'll have a blast!

tIANci,

It looks like in the picture you are using the rear motor support. What
did you do to make it work ?

tommy s

tommy ... nothing special, the shaft of the 4035 is slighly short, maybe 2mm. To keep the bearing from sliding back, I used the collar as a spacer. Huison did it that way so I followed suit ...

Have another two flight . . . it flies much more better now .
8 min flying time full p-09 menuever , landed battery 'cool' , esc warm , motor warm -cells voltage 3.92v about 1900-2000mah used !!

May be will try APC18X10 or 17x12 .......

The painted canopy on tha 110 looks great!
For the earlier posts about the Turnigy's, I'm running one in my Angle 50, on the first flight the magnet came loose and stopped the motor.
Zapped all the magnets and have been flying since with no problems, about 30 to 50 flights, climbs out of sight rolling. You get what you pay for, and if that means you have to run a bit of super glue down the sides of the magnets, then that's pretty good for the cost of the motor. Matt.

I hope to maiden mine tomorrow, just got the plane ready ... only need to build a platform for the RX and the lipo. The rudder pull-pull was a chore, just like on the AngelS 50. The Sanwa ERG-VR for the rudder is nice. Nice and fast ...

Matt ... having to merely run some CA onto the magnets is not much work bearing in mind how much one can save using the Turnigy motors. Which one did you put into your Angel S?

Hello tIANci,
have a good first flight tomorrow, the 110 seems to be an even nicer model than the Angle 50.
I am using a Turnigy SK 50-65 380Kv, they are now listed at 39:95 at HC.

Wow ... I never realised it would take so much time to just work out the wiring for the plane. Tight space ... I am glad I do not have big hands like Huison! Got the Hyperion regulator in and she will run on a Flight Power EVO20 3S 400 pack, I use those for my little foamies. So I think I can get almost 4 flights from each pack.

One thing I have to say, this plane feels heavy compared with the Angel S 50 or the Ms Wind. Let's hope the weather holds out well tomorrow morning, its been raining so much for the last week or so. Batts are charging now!

Matt ... I got the 5055, that ain't gonna cut it for the 50 sized Sebart planes. What I dislike about the Turnigy is that they use a 8mm prop adapter. Probably look for some nice WWI 40 sized bird for that motor.

Hi
I'm Estuardo from Guatemala
Next week I going to receive my Wind 110 my question is
has Someone have put the 3D options included in the kit without the 3D elevator

Estuardo ... what 3D options? The wing fences and the T top? I am curious to know how they work. I tried to find the notches on the wing for the wing fences but could not locate them. Did not use any of those because am worried that I may break them in transit.

The kit has wing fences and a T-canalizer included. I haven't mounted either, however I am making a canalizer myself.

In my opninion, the included canalizer and fences are really ugly.

The reason I'm making a canalizer, is the fact that in the P11 schedule there's a figure M with an integrated half roll/half loop, and the Wind will 'sag' somewhat in the bottom half of this. I'm hoping the canalizer will improve it's performance in that particular manouvre.

Besides what's in the kit, SebArt also offers a 3D stab. Basically it has bigger elevators with balance-tabs.

If I could get one for a reasonable price (say 10~15 euro's) I would try it, just for fun.

However, if you want to fly 3D, don't buy a WindS. It's a pattern ship, not a 3D plane. If you want 3D, you're probably better of with a SebArt Sukhoi, for example.

Finally, got to maiden her today and put in 2 short flights to trim her out. She 'feels' heavy with the 10S 4,900 mAh batteries in place. Powering her up I got about 53A and 2,100W with the Scorpion 4035-250 turning a XOAR 17x10.

There was about a 5 knot wind so I did my best to trim her and get the CG right. Took off with a CG of about 190mm. With my RX/RX lipo/regulator in the turtle deck I am able to keep the packs 0.75" in front of the rudder servo tray. That means I have some space to move the CG further back if necessary.

Throws were set as follows:

AIL - 30mm (high) 15mm (low), this is measured on the inboard side of the aileron
ELE - 25mm (high) 15mm (low), this is measured on the outboard side of the elevator
RUD - 30* (high) 15* (low)

A couple of clicks on the aileron and elevator and she was flying level. My first impression of her is that this plane is very stable and flies light. She goes where you point her. Once the initial trims were done I flew a few circuits and then went inverted, she only needed a touch of down elevator to keep her level. After that I executed some rolls and loops. Rolls are pretty axial and I think she may not need any differential. Loops were not tracking too straight but that may be either me or the elevator halves are not having equal throws. More work on that front. Was too nervous to ensure that the rudder is straight.

Flying her on low rates was just right, the ailerons/elevator/rudder were responsive. However, she will not execute a stall turn well on low rates unless you bleep the throttle hard, high rates are required. With the standard horn even with my high rates I had problems with snaps. I can hardly see the tail throw over. Guess, I need to get the rudder up to 45* of deflection.

KE had minimal coupling on the ailerons, perhaps I will need about 2%-3% mix but the elevator coupling was relatively more noticeable. On the first flight it was minimal when KE from the RIGHT (left rudder input) but on a left KE (right rudder input) she was tucking to the belly a little. On the second flight I shifted the CG a bit and that caused a more pronounced elevator coupling. Guess, I need to set my CG right first before I can say more.

Power was just right, it does not give unlimited verticals but uplines are strong and I am able to pull very big loops with ease. I think an 18x10 XOAR she will do a better job. I did try to prop hang her, she seems easy to prop hang, heheehehee ... will try it again another day.

The WindS can fly pretty slow, I am most surprised. But at those low speeds the wings want to rock a bit. Approaching stall perhaps? Landings are super nice, rate of descent is low and so is the airspeed. I estimate it to as low as around 25 mph, much slower than some of the YouTube videos I have seen of the WindS landing.

I can't imagine how nice the WindS 2M plane will be ... hope the when Huison gets his he will be nice enough to let me fly it! I am not going to be a serious pattern flyer so the 2M version is out of the question.

One of my friends tested out his Integral with a canalizer and this is what he says:

KE is flatter ... can reduce rudder travel. Does first maneouver of P11 well now ... reduction in pitch coupling ... had to reduce elev sensitivity.

Can't imagine something so small with so much effect.