Engine break-in in freezing cold
#27
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Owning one and having a model plane engine set up with the same care and attention to heat management are two completely different things. How many of your planes have a tighly shrouded engine, encompassing the entire engine assembly, that best manages heat? My guess is none.
Yes, a model engine can run as well in cold air as in warm, but attention to detail is critical. Breaking in an engine in cold air is even more critical since little of the engine is mated correctly when you first start it. You have to know a little more about what makes an engine work and how they work than just flipping a prop and running the throttle up and down.
Yes, a model engine can run as well in cold air as in warm, but attention to detail is critical. Breaking in an engine in cold air is even more critical since little of the engine is mated correctly when you first start it. You have to know a little more about what makes an engine work and how they work than just flipping a prop and running the throttle up and down.
#28
The original question asked about synthetic oil, I had heard not to use synthetic oil for break in as it prolongs the process. Anyone else heard this? Also DLE manual I believe says to use shock absorber for break in, what precisely is this?
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Well no, it would be pretty unlikely for that to happen. If the gas freezes, it is only because it has water in it, and the engine probably wouldn't even run if it had frozen water in the carb.
What happens is that people rev the engine up and put a load on it before it has a chance to warm up. The piston grows quickly from the heat of the load, but the cylinder is still cold and contracted. This can cause cold seizures.
AV8TOR
Well no, it would be pretty unlikely for that to happen. If the gas freezes, it is only because it has water in it, and the engine probably wouldn't even run if it had frozen water in the carb.
What happens is that people rev the engine up and put a load on it before it has a chance to warm up. The piston grows quickly from the heat of the load, but the cylinder is still cold and contracted. This can cause cold seizures.
AV8TOR
The tolerance between the ring and the cylinder could be smaller in freezing cold.
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And those planes would still be fun to fly today
And those planes would still be fun to fly today
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The cold will be good for the engine . But some good advice do not use any spray starter fluid like you would use in a car spray starter fluid has either in it and either will dissipate the oil and may cause damage to the piston and rings .
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The cold will be good for the engine . But some good advice do not use any spray starter fluid like you would use in a car spray starter fluid has either in it and either will dissipate the oil and may cause damage to the piston and rings .
hyflyer9
The cold will be good for the engine . But some good advice do not use any spray starter fluid like you would use in a car spray starter fluid has either in it and either will dissipate the oil and may cause damage to the piston and rings .
hyflyer9
1. If you used the choke first, there will be oil in engine with fuel
2. Most modern starting sprays have lube in them
3. As soon asthe enginestarts more fuel & oil will be brought in....DAAAA THINK about it!
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John,
I use ether a lot for starting some of the specialized engines I work with. We have to be careful about how often the stuff is used during a single start up process. If it's needed more than once with a cold engine there isn't any residual oil left in a cylinder to lubricate anything. I've absolutely seen significant and severe increases in wear in engines using ether starts. The reeds take it the shorts too and experience wear and damage they rarely experience if ether is not used for starting. I do a lot of ether starts, as do others, so we've been able to note the impact of the stuff over a lot of engines.
I use ether a lot for starting some of the specialized engines I work with. We have to be careful about how often the stuff is used during a single start up process. If it's needed more than once with a cold engine there isn't any residual oil left in a cylinder to lubricate anything. I've absolutely seen significant and severe increases in wear in engines using ether starts. The reeds take it the shorts too and experience wear and damage they rarely experience if ether is not used for starting. I do a lot of ether starts, as do others, so we've been able to note the impact of the stuff over a lot of engines.
#37
Back when I tolerated 35 F as a "flyable day" -I flew my gassers on 100% synthetic oil - which I also used from day one on all of em -
All of em broke in with no scratching - excellent compression - easy "flippity flip" when cranking over when starting
I always choked to get a "wet" sound before closing throttle to idle - Then a easy flip typically had em ticking over
An engine was never spun over in a dry state.
Never
Never
All of em broke in with no scratching - excellent compression - easy "flippity flip" when cranking over when starting
I always choked to get a "wet" sound before closing throttle to idle - Then a easy flip typically had em ticking over
An engine was never spun over in a dry state.
Never
Never



