BME 115
03-23-2006 | 08:23 PM
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RE: BME 115
OK,,Here is what I know to this point. If I am not 100% right I am very close.
There is a BME 115
It will have a different case design than the 110 so you can run conventional stand-offs without the fully supported ring mount.
It will have a larger/different carb
It will "possibly" be LIGHTER
It might be smaller in some dimensions
It will run stronger than the 110 (of course it's a 115)
I believe it will run the same jugs
It will have all the good characteristics of the 110 with some being better
I hope this will not turn into a my motor is better than your motor thread. This is just for informational purposes only.
There is a BME 115
It will have a different case design than the 110 so you can run conventional stand-offs without the fully supported ring mount.
It will have a larger/different carb
It will "possibly" be LIGHTER
It might be smaller in some dimensions
It will run stronger than the 110 (of course it's a 115)
I believe it will run the same jugs
It will have all the good characteristics of the 110 with some being better
I hope this will not turn into a my motor is better than your motor thread. This is just for informational purposes only.
03-24-2006 | 12:02 AM
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RE: BME 115
RTK,
I didn't read anything you posted in here. NA-NA-NA-NA-NA, my ears are covered. This is a well kept secret and nobody is supposed to know any of this, so of course none of it is true. This information is considered to be at a T.S. level to prevent the other manufacturers having something to shoot for, and to prevent the incessant clamoring that always takes place by people looking for a new product before it's been released and before production quantities reach a level to satisfy demand.
Ralph, you just lost your security status
I didn't read anything you posted in here. NA-NA-NA-NA-NA, my ears are covered. This is a well kept secret and nobody is supposed to know any of this, so of course none of it is true. This information is considered to be at a T.S. level to prevent the other manufacturers having something to shoot for, and to prevent the incessant clamoring that always takes place by people looking for a new product before it's been released and before production quantities reach a level to satisfy demand.
Ralph, you just lost your security status
03-24-2006 | 03:41 AM
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RE: BME 115
I have one on back order. It will turn solid 200 rpm more and probly 300. the back plate can now use stand offs and from the backplate to the hub is 5.5" It did gain 1/8th" from cap to cap.
That is what I hear.
Should be released any time now.
Jim
That is what I hear.
Should be released any time now.
Jim
03-24-2006 | 03:45 AM
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I have one on back order. It will turn solid 200 rpm more and probly 300. the back plate can now use stand offs and from the backplate to the hub is 5.5" It did gain 1/8th" from cap to cap.
That is what I hear.
Should be released any time now.
Jim
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That is what I hear.
Should be released any time now.
Jim
New user name
03-24-2006 | 10:35 PM
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I also talked to Keith today, comfirm everything RTK said....4 lbs + or - a few oz....
I also have two of the 110 cranks here to straighten...They are made exclusively for BME, not chainsaw parts for those of you who think chainsaw parts are something to be avoided or not acknowledged...The rods have BME cast into the center, the ends are made only for Keith...Same goes for the cylinders and pistons, and the cases...The cylinders are made to his specs,few manufacturers can make this claim..The prop hubs are 2024 aluminum...
The case is 3 pieces, the center part is a solid piece with holes for the cylinders and crank. Very rigid...The front and rear parts containing the bearings bolt on, easily replaceable if needed without having to buy a whole crankcase...
All in all a GREAT new size engine...
I also have two of the 110 cranks here to straighten...They are made exclusively for BME, not chainsaw parts for those of you who think chainsaw parts are something to be avoided or not acknowledged...The rods have BME cast into the center, the ends are made only for Keith...Same goes for the cylinders and pistons, and the cases...The cylinders are made to his specs,few manufacturers can make this claim..The prop hubs are 2024 aluminum...
The case is 3 pieces, the center part is a solid piece with holes for the cylinders and crank. Very rigid...The front and rear parts containing the bearings bolt on, easily replaceable if needed without having to buy a whole crankcase...
All in all a GREAT new size engine...
03-24-2006 | 11:14 PM
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RE: BME 115
ORIGINAL: RCIGN1
The case is 3 pieces, the center part is a solid piece with holes for the cylinders and crank. Very rigid...The front and rear parts containing the bearings bolt on, easily replaceable if needed without having to buy a whole crankcase...
All in all a GREAT new size engine...
The case is 3 pieces, the center part is a solid piece with holes for the cylinders and crank. Very rigid...The front and rear parts containing the bearings bolt on, easily replaceable if needed without having to buy a whole crankcase...
All in all a GREAT new size engine...
03-25-2006 | 08:38 AM
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RE: BME 115
ORIGINAL: RCIGN1
I also talked to Keith today, comfirm everything RTK said....4 lbs + or - a few oz....
I also have two of the 110 cranks here to straighten...They are made exclusively for BME, not chainsaw parts for those of you who think chainsaw parts are something to be avoided or not acknowledged...The rods have BME cast into the center, the ends are made only for Keith...Same goes for the cylinders and pistons, and the cases...The cylinders are made to his specs,few manufacturers can make this claim..The prop hubs are 2024 aluminum...
The case is 3 pieces, the center part is a solid piece with holes for the cylinders and crank. Very rigid...The front and rear parts containing the bearings bolt on, easily replaceable if needed without having to buy a whole crankcase...
All in all a GREAT new size engine...
I also talked to Keith today, comfirm everything RTK said....4 lbs + or - a few oz....
I also have two of the 110 cranks here to straighten...They are made exclusively for BME, not chainsaw parts for those of you who think chainsaw parts are something to be avoided or not acknowledged...The rods have BME cast into the center, the ends are made only for Keith...Same goes for the cylinders and pistons, and the cases...The cylinders are made to his specs,few manufacturers can make this claim..The prop hubs are 2024 aluminum...
The case is 3 pieces, the center part is a solid piece with holes for the cylinders and crank. Very rigid...The front and rear parts containing the bearings bolt on, easily replaceable if needed without having to buy a whole crankcase...
All in all a GREAT new size engine...
I have read some posts that claim that the BME cylinders are made by the same company that makes cylinders for 3W and DA. Any truth to that? How about the cranks?
03-25-2006 | 09:59 AM
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RE: BME 115
Could be, don't know, didn't ask......
I do know it takes a very large order to get a good price, so they have be right the first time..I think Dave at DA said they order something like 500 sets of cylinders at a time..
Not a business for the faint of heart [8D]
I do know it takes a very large order to get a good price, so they have be right the first time..I think Dave at DA said they order something like 500 sets of cylinders at a time..
Not a business for the faint of heart [8D]
03-25-2006 | 03:54 PM
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I can't see any issue with one company making parts for a few different brands of engines. All the work is proprietary to each model and under contract, so no big deal. If you find a company that does what you want them to do, does it correctly, on time, and at budget ,you would think everyone would go there.
BTW, Ralph, what's wrong with chainsaw parts? They've been extremely effective and reliable for many, many years.
BTW, Ralph, what's wrong with chainsaw parts? They've been extremely effective and reliable for many, many years.
03-25-2006 | 04:36 PM
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At last, someone who actually READS the whole post without jumping to conclusions..
I LIKE chainsaw parts, most of the Zenoah engines are made from the Red Max brand of chainsaws...Quadra and US Engines were chainsaws...I have converted many different chainsaws, the largest being a Stihl 090, 138cc....D&B engines, BME engines, Fox, FPE, Brison, Air Hobbies, and EVEN the Taurus use chainsaw parts...
My problem is with manufacturers who claim their engines are NOT made from chainsaw parts...Why not admit it ? You couldn't wear out a chainsaw conversion in a lifetime of flying one on a model airplane...Unless something is done to the ports and crank the engine is still basically a chainsaw, no matter what the mount or prop hub looks like, or what makes the spark...
Chainsaw is not a dirty word...
I LIKE chainsaw parts, most of the Zenoah engines are made from the Red Max brand of chainsaws...Quadra and US Engines were chainsaws...I have converted many different chainsaws, the largest being a Stihl 090, 138cc....D&B engines, BME engines, Fox, FPE, Brison, Air Hobbies, and EVEN the Taurus use chainsaw parts...
My problem is with manufacturers who claim their engines are NOT made from chainsaw parts...Why not admit it ? You couldn't wear out a chainsaw conversion in a lifetime of flying one on a model airplane...Unless something is done to the ports and crank the engine is still basically a chainsaw, no matter what the mount or prop hub looks like, or what makes the spark...
Chainsaw is not a dirty word...
03-26-2006 | 12:23 AM
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I agree with all the above. Been acutely aware of it all for a long, long time. I've never personally had any issues with the term "chainsaw" since it's always been the truth. Never could figure out why some got a little flustered over it.
