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09-29-2010, 06:29 AM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
ORIGINAL: greg palmer
clouddancer thanks for the info on that. I have been trying to decide on the extreme flight or wait on the aeroworks 30 cc extra 300.
clouddancer thanks for the info on that. I have been trying to decide on the extreme flight or wait on the aeroworks 30 cc extra 300.
I'm waiting to see the Aeroworks Extra 300 as well. I contacted Aeroworks and they told me that pics should be posted next week. I'm going to put my G26 I got from Ralph Cunningham on the business end. It will spin a XOAR 18X6 at 8500 rpm. I had the DLE 30 on my H9 Taylorcraft and it's a power house but I already have a G26.
09-29-2010, 06:31 AM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
ORIGINAL: Howard
I have struggled with my side carb DLE 30 and cannot get rid of a stumbling/missing region in the lower half of the throttle. The idle seems ok but not very reliable with respect to being repetitive. I have about two gallons of fuel through it on a Cessna 195 with out the cowl installed. Except to adjust the needles all of the time is in the air. At this point it accelerate fine, maybe a very small stumble on the first take off, but then quickly and easily goes to full power Zoar 18-6, Pennszoil air cooled two stroke at 32:1, 89 octane pump gas and an NGK CM-6 plug. In the air it is fine all the way down to about half power and below that it runs fine but, stumbles and stutters.
Has anyone used the rear carb conversion kit and what was your experience with respect to better engine running properties? I have the kit but, wonder if it is worth the effort your thoughts and input would be helpful. My flying buddy has the same engine, same plane and is experiencing the exact same performance on his DLE-30.
Does the new side carb V2, from the factory or using the conversion kit, run any better. I am really impressed with the power output. Thank you in advance for any thoughts, advice, or input.
Howard
I have struggled with my side carb DLE 30 and cannot get rid of a stumbling/missing region in the lower half of the throttle. The idle seems ok but not very reliable with respect to being repetitive. I have about two gallons of fuel through it on a Cessna 195 with out the cowl installed. Except to adjust the needles all of the time is in the air. At this point it accelerate fine, maybe a very small stumble on the first take off, but then quickly and easily goes to full power Zoar 18-6, Pennszoil air cooled two stroke at 32:1, 89 octane pump gas and an NGK CM-6 plug. In the air it is fine all the way down to about half power and below that it runs fine but, stumbles and stutters.
Has anyone used the rear carb conversion kit and what was your experience with respect to better engine running properties? I have the kit but, wonder if it is worth the effort your thoughts and input would be helpful. My flying buddy has the same engine, same plane and is experiencing the exact same performance on his DLE-30.
Does the new side carb V2, from the factory or using the conversion kit, run any better. I am really impressed with the power output. Thank you in advance for any thoughts, advice, or input.
Howard
09-29-2010, 07:12 AM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
ORIGINAL: Zippi
Greg,
I'm waiting to see the Aeroworks Extra 300 as well. I contacted Aeroworks and they told me that pics should be posted next week. I'm going to put my G26 I got from Ralph Cunningham on the business end. It will spin a XOAR 18X6 at 8500 rpm. I had the DLE 30 on my H9 Taylorcraft and it's a power house but I already have a G26.
ORIGINAL: greg palmer
clouddancer thanks for the info on that. I have been trying to decide on the extreme flight or wait on the aeroworks 30 cc extra 300.
clouddancer thanks for the info on that. I have been trying to decide on the extreme flight or wait on the aeroworks 30 cc extra 300.
I'm waiting to see the Aeroworks Extra 300 as well. I contacted Aeroworks and they told me that pics should be posted next week. I'm going to put my G26 I got from Ralph Cunningham on the business end. It will spin a XOAR 18X6 at 8500 rpm. I had the DLE 30 on my H9 Taylorcraft and it's a power house but I already have a G26.
09-29-2010, 07:22 AM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
ORIGINAL: Howard
I have struggled with my side carb DLE 30 and cannot get rid of a stumbling/missing region in the lower half of the throttle. The idle seems ok but not very reliable with respect to being repetitive. I have about two gallons of fuel through it on a Cessna 195 with out the cowl installed. Except to adjust the needles all of the time is in the air. At this point it accelerate fine, maybe a very small stumble on the first take off, but then quickly and easily goes to full power Zoar 18-6, Pennszoil air cooled two stroke at 32:1, 89 octane pump gas and an NGK CM-6 plug. In the air it is fine all the way down to about half power and below that it runs fine but, stumbles and stutters.
Has anyone used the rear carb conversion kit and what was your experience with respect to better engine running properties? I have the kit but, wonder if it is worth the effort your thoughts and input would be helpful. My flying buddy has the same engine, same plane and is experiencing the exact same performance on his DLE-30.
Does the new side carb V2, from the factory or using the conversion kit, run any better. I am really impressed with the power output. Thank you in advance for any thoughts, advice, or input.
Howard
I have struggled with my side carb DLE 30 and cannot get rid of a stumbling/missing region in the lower half of the throttle. The idle seems ok but not very reliable with respect to being repetitive. I have about two gallons of fuel through it on a Cessna 195 with out the cowl installed. Except to adjust the needles all of the time is in the air. At this point it accelerate fine, maybe a very small stumble on the first take off, but then quickly and easily goes to full power Zoar 18-6, Pennszoil air cooled two stroke at 32:1, 89 octane pump gas and an NGK CM-6 plug. In the air it is fine all the way down to about half power and below that it runs fine but, stumbles and stutters.
Has anyone used the rear carb conversion kit and what was your experience with respect to better engine running properties? I have the kit but, wonder if it is worth the effort your thoughts and input would be helpful. My flying buddy has the same engine, same plane and is experiencing the exact same performance on his DLE-30.
Does the new side carb V2, from the factory or using the conversion kit, run any better. I am really impressed with the power output. Thank you in advance for any thoughts, advice, or input.
Howard
Howard - Just a thought - but I too had these problems. I did all the early suggested mods and then installed the rear carb mod and even a new Bowman's ring. It wasn't until I subbed out the electronic module with one from my DLE 55 that I found it was the problem. Now the engine runs beautifully in every aspect and is a joy to have at the field and I have ordered a new module. Hopefully this newer version (V-2) will give me an even better idle. Just a thought, but no one ever says they have checked the module and yet it can cause problems!
09-29-2010, 07:49 AM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
I have struggled with my side carb DLE 30 and cannot get rid of a stumbling/missing region in the lower half of the throttle. The idle seems ok but not very reliable with respect to being repetitive.
I have the same problems that you describe on the same engine. Plus, mine spits oily exhaust out all over the plane (yes, its tuned right) even though it has almost 4.5 gals thru it. So I installed the rear carb conversion and zero difference.
09-29-2010, 08:53 PM
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On the older DLE30 that still has some black being emitted, try this. Loosen the 4 base bolts & make sure the gasket is not holding the jug in place...turn the engine over by hand & let the jug find a better alignment. My engine had some shine on one side of piston...so I made sure I pushed the jug over to give more clearance on tight side. That took care of that. Very easy. Capt,n
09-29-2010, 09:00 PM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
All I got to say is bring on the pictures, I can't wait to see what it will look like. I have already bought a dle-30 for and next month I plan on getting a pitts muffler, props and spinner from valley view rc.
09-29-2010, 10:30 PM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
thanks moulder..I saw an EF at the neat fair with electric .what a flyer..with digitals the 8 point roll the guy did was very very precise.now imagine how it will do with the dle30?
I'll tell ya I am likely to go to our place in florida to see the sunshine huckfest at triple creek ..there will be some spectacular flyers there.ben fisher will be there hucking his stuff.next to the EF your next best bet is to get hold of a 70 inch AJslick!!my mallelectric slick is one of the best planes I own and fly.I cant imagine what it does with gas.
I'm just about to break my 30 in .I got behind with a bathroom do-ver ugh!I need a few props though and jody felt an 18x6 for seagull xtra 260 with the 30 wasnt quite enough.should I go with a xroar 19x8???
I'll tell ya I am likely to go to our place in florida to see the sunshine huckfest at triple creek ..there will be some spectacular flyers there.ben fisher will be there hucking his stuff.next to the EF your next best bet is to get hold of a 70 inch AJslick!!my mallelectric slick is one of the best planes I own and fly.I cant imagine what it does with gas.
I'm just about to break my 30 in .I got behind with a bathroom do-ver ugh!I need a few props though and jody felt an 18x6 for seagull xtra 260 with the 30 wasnt quite enough.should I go with a xroar 19x8???
09-30-2010, 05:55 AM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
Just to be clear, I'm flying the Syssa 30cc and not the DLE, and also flying pattern and not 3D, but the 18x6 Xoar seems to be the prop of choice for the IMAC-type models. I'm using an APC 15.5x12W for pattern.
09-30-2010, 06:45 AM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
ORIGINAL: cloudancer03
I'm just about to break my 30 in .I got behind with a bathroom do-ver ugh!I need a few props though and jody felt an 18x6 for seagull xtra 260 with the 30 wasnt quite enough.should I go with a xroar 19x8???
I'm just about to break my 30 in .I got behind with a bathroom do-ver ugh!I need a few props though and jody felt an 18x6 for seagull xtra 260 with the 30 wasnt quite enough.should I go with a xroar 19x8???
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09-30-2010, 08:58 AM
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I have an 18x8 on my Seagull Extra w dle-30 and it has tons of power, but I do get "prop rip" at high power level flight which I'm told suggests I should prop up a bit.
Zoar 19x8 is also good but not as good pull out.
Zoar 18 3AD was good but revs too high.
all my Zoar props were perfectly balanced tip and hub right out of the package.
09-30-2010, 10:19 PM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
ok just bought me a dle 30cc going to put it on a seagull edge 540 so prop clearance is a prople currently i am running a 16x8 on a os 120 2stroke
so i see the book recomends a a 18x8 and that will be pushing it on the clearance of this plane so what would happen if i went to like a 17x10 or a 17x8
so i see the book recomends a a 18x8 and that will be pushing it on the clearance of this plane so what would happen if i went to like a 17x10 or a 17x8
10-03-2010, 07:31 PM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
Oh heck yes, that would be great! BTW, who makes a header that can work with the ES pipe directly aft of the engine on the aircraft centerline?
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I would like to see DLE add another 5cc to this engine like they did with their 50cc engine.
I would like to see DLE add another 5cc to this engine like they did with their 50cc engine.
10-03-2010, 07:40 PM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
I think a 40cc would be just right. Of course this all depends on what kind of flying one likes and with what plane/engine combo they are looking to fill. For example (for me) the 30 is too small for a 1/4 scale waco I have and the 55 is too heavy for what I'm looking for. I think a number of manufacturers are seeing a need or should I say desires for many different engine ranges but, as we all know it all depends on them being able to make (enough of a profit) to bring one too market.
10-03-2010, 08:00 PM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
I am kind of in the same boat. I have a Great Planes Wagstaff Extra 300 that I really like, but I have always felt that my DL 50 was a little too big for it. At the time when I built it the smaller engines avalible were not much lighter and had a lot less power. When the MT 35 came out I purchased one of the first ones "big mistake" thinking that if it was a very strong runner I might give it a try in my Patty. Long story short I ended up returning the MT-35 because of quality issues with it, but I still think a super strong and lite 35cc engine would be ideal for that plane. BTW it would have weighed just under 14lbs with the 35cc and I beleive a DL35cc would swing a 20"x8" prop and make well over 20lbs of thrust which would be an ideal power and weight combination.
10-03-2010, 10:05 PM
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RE: NEW DLE30!
Dle 30 Setting up throttle servo and manage to break the
plastic fuel line nipple from the carb can I replace the nipple
tried to remove and won't come off the carb what can I do?
Thanks for the help.
plastic fuel line nipple from the carb can I replace the nipple
tried to remove and won't come off the carb what can I do?
Thanks for the help.
10-03-2010, 10:14 PM
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Maybe drill it out and use JB weld to place a short tube or 90 degree bend. Make sure you clean all the shavings out. Thats one Idea. I have more! Capt,n
10-03-2010, 10:16 PM
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Pull the brass piece out with pliers
Get a new nipple
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...D=ZEN267021250
Tap it in place with it in the right direction.
Get a new nipple
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...D=ZEN267021250
Tap it in place with it in the right direction.