BME 37% Ultimate
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RE: BME 37% Ultimate
All,
I am working on mine right now and will post some pictures soon. I am putting a BME 102 in mine right now because I had to use my 110e in my other plane (Edge 540 H9) to keep from adding 1.5 pounds of lead to the tail, because the 102 is exactly 25 ounces heavier. I am concerned about balance and power because the 102 BME throws a 26/10 prop (Bolly Wood), where the 110 throws a 28/10 Bolly Wood prop.
Also, I have cardboard wing tubes in my plane, so does this make it an early ARF?
Best Regards, Mark
I am working on mine right now and will post some pictures soon. I am putting a BME 102 in mine right now because I had to use my 110e in my other plane (Edge 540 H9) to keep from adding 1.5 pounds of lead to the tail, because the 102 is exactly 25 ounces heavier. I am concerned about balance and power because the 102 BME throws a 26/10 prop (Bolly Wood), where the 110 throws a 28/10 Bolly Wood prop.
Also, I have cardboard wing tubes in my plane, so does this make it an early ARF?
Best Regards, Mark
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Well guys, Here's mine. BME 100. Did everything I could do to lighten it up except carbon tubes and still came out 29lbs. If I like the plane I will get some C/F tube and that will save around 8 or 9 ozs. My old 100 will need all the help it can get.
However my ignition had a coil go bad and I only got 1 four minute flight out of it. not enough to judge the plane yet. Hopefully I will have the ignition back in a few weeks.
Later
However my ignition had a coil go bad and I only got 1 four minute flight out of it. not enough to judge the plane yet. Hopefully I will have the ignition back in a few weeks.
Later
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RE: BME 37% Ultimate
Thunderbolt47,
Your plane looks AWSOME!!!
Do you think your engine will be powerful enough? I have a BME 102, and I am concerned my engine wont be enough for good vertical performance, what do you think?
I am planning on using Fromeco batteries and regulators to get my weight down, and maybe a carbon gear and wing tubes.
BR, Mark
Your plane looks AWSOME!!!
Do you think your engine will be powerful enough? I have a BME 102, and I am concerned my engine wont be enough for good vertical performance, what do you think?
I am planning on using Fromeco batteries and regulators to get my weight down, and maybe a carbon gear and wing tubes.
BR, Mark
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Mark, I really don't know. My Sukhoi was 26lbs and the pull out was pretty good, nothing like a DA in the same plane. Now where talking 3 more pounds,two wings and flying wires.(lots of drag)
What little bit I did fly, It seemed to have the power. It went staight up after rotation. 3 to 4 minutes in to the flight my engine started sputtering and I had to land.
will it pull out of a hover is yet to be seen. As soon as I get my ignition back, I'll find out.
I've seen the H-9 Ultimates at 42 to 44lbs pull out (slowly) with a DA150. much slower than a 42 lb mono plane, but they all looked like they had good control at ther slower speeds. If my BME will (slowly) pull my Ultimate out of a hover, I can live with that. Just have to be a little more careful not to get in trouble.
BTW my 100 will turn a NX 26x10 6100 to 6300 rpms on the ground. A DA will turn a 27 to 28 inch prop. My 100 would never swing them.
What little bit I did fly, It seemed to have the power. It went staight up after rotation. 3 to 4 minutes in to the flight my engine started sputtering and I had to land.
will it pull out of a hover is yet to be seen. As soon as I get my ignition back, I'll find out.
I've seen the H-9 Ultimates at 42 to 44lbs pull out (slowly) with a DA150. much slower than a 42 lb mono plane, but they all looked like they had good control at ther slower speeds. If my BME will (slowly) pull my Ultimate out of a hover, I can live with that. Just have to be a little more careful not to get in trouble.
BTW my 100 will turn a NX 26x10 6100 to 6300 rpms on the ground. A DA will turn a 27 to 28 inch prop. My 100 would never swing them.
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Thunderbolt,
Great picture. I trial fitted everything yesterday and everything was perfect. I have the landing gear and struts mounted. Going with 8 8611a's for servos and going to try to get most of the hardware installed today except motor.
Joe and SU-13,
Sold the Yak and Edge, the Extra I kept. I really felt bad selling the Edge, may do another later this year if the ARC's are still available.
Ken
Great picture. I trial fitted everything yesterday and everything was perfect. I have the landing gear and struts mounted. Going with 8 8611a's for servos and going to try to get most of the hardware installed today except motor.
Joe and SU-13,
Sold the Yak and Edge, the Extra I kept. I really felt bad selling the Edge, may do another later this year if the ARC's are still available.
Ken
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Ken I don't blame you but the Edge will be missed I'm sure. That Bipe is a smoken deal and looks like a really nice ARF. I hope to see a video of you guys really wringing it out in 3D style.
ORIGINAL: Ken-h
Joe and SU-13,
Sold the Yak and Edge, the Extra I kept. I really felt bad selling the Edge, may do another later this year if the ARC's are still available.
Ken
Joe and SU-13,
Sold the Yak and Edge, the Extra I kept. I really felt bad selling the Edge, may do another later this year if the ARC's are still available.
Ken
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Hey Guys,
Well got quite a bit done today. I managed to get all of the tail feathers done and mounted. Top wing is finished and lower wing is about half way done. So far no unexpected problems and the parts fit is fantastic. Only delays have been in the normal servo bay enlargement for the 8611's. Iv'e attached some pictures of the inside of the fuse for those that were inquiring about cans. Looks like there's enough room but have to do some cutting. Tomorrow I'll be ordering the remainder of parts I need to compete it. First pictures is of the entire contents.
Ken
Well got quite a bit done today. I managed to get all of the tail feathers done and mounted. Top wing is finished and lower wing is about half way done. So far no unexpected problems and the parts fit is fantastic. Only delays have been in the normal servo bay enlargement for the 8611's. Iv'e attached some pictures of the inside of the fuse for those that were inquiring about cans. Looks like there's enough room but have to do some cutting. Tomorrow I'll be ordering the remainder of parts I need to compete it. First pictures is of the entire contents.
Ken
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Right now I'll be using a ZDZ100. If it does not get the job done I'll get a good ol DA or possibly one of the new BME 115's. I know both of those will get er done. The ZDZ I got from a friend in hopes to get this thing in air at a realitivly low cost. Blew my load on a DA 150 last month in hopes to find a nice 40% airplane but there nothing out there at this time that I like.
Ken
Ken
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I just picked up the ultimate on friday, the canopy came cracked. Waiting to hear if they'll send me a new one. They wanted me to send them a digital photo of it before they would comment on a replacement.
Otherwise I was thinking of putting a BME 110 in it, but I can't find smoke mufflers for it. When I called BME all I got was an answering machine. Left message but haven't heard back from Keith either. Debating on putting on a 3W CS that I know has smoke mufflers for it.
Otherwise I was thinking of putting a BME 110 in it, but I can't find smoke mufflers for it. When I called BME all I got was an answering machine. Left message but haven't heard back from Keith either. Debating on putting on a 3W CS that I know has smoke mufflers for it.
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I just picked up the ultimate on friday, the canopy came cracked. Waiting to hear if they'll send me a new one. They wanted me to send them a digital photo of it before they would comment on a replacement.
Otherwise I was thinking of putting a BME 110 in it, but I can't find smoke mufflers for it. When I called BME all I got was an answering machine. Left message but haven't heard back from Keith either. Debating on putting on a 3W CS that I know has smoke mufflers for it.
I just picked up the ultimate on friday, the canopy came cracked. Waiting to hear if they'll send me a new one. They wanted me to send them a digital photo of it before they would comment on a replacement.
Otherwise I was thinking of putting a BME 110 in it, but I can't find smoke mufflers for it. When I called BME all I got was an answering machine. Left message but haven't heard back from Keith either. Debating on putting on a 3W CS that I know has smoke mufflers for it.
I am sure Max will get that canopy taken care of for you, sorry to hear about that. As far smoke, you can just drill and tap the mufflers for smoke yourself. Pre-heat is nice but I think these motors do a great job without it with a little less weight. If I have some reserve power, I'll be doing the same with mine.
Ken
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Hey Guys, I thought you might like to know that on the top wing I ran the servo ex. down the wing and cut a hole in each wing at the inside bottom. I plug the servo in to a modified ernst charge jack, like on the GP pitts. All I did was to take a long rod and punched out a hole in the rib next to the servo bay. It's opened all the way through to that rib. It is a lot simplier than running it down the outer stuts.
Also I cut a 1 inch square hole in the end of the bottom wing and used my soldering gun with a wire bent square to fit the hole. I then cut a 2in deep hole. I leave the extention hanging out of the fuse. when I slide the wing on, just plug it in , safty clip it and tuck it in the pocket.
BTW my canopy was cracked also. Max sent out another one no question asked. I also had two left elavators. I E-mailed a picture to max and he sent me one right out.
Also I cut a 1 inch square hole in the end of the bottom wing and used my soldering gun with a wire bent square to fit the hole. I then cut a 2in deep hole. I leave the extention hanging out of the fuse. when I slide the wing on, just plug it in , safty clip it and tuck it in the pocket.
BTW my canopy was cracked also. Max sent out another one no question asked. I also had two left elavators. I E-mailed a picture to max and he sent me one right out.
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I put a building table in the Dog House ! Spend a lot of time there.
ORIGINAL: Ken-h
Hey Guys,
I sold two of my BME's to buy this plane. $650 was just too much to resist. It just arrived today and spent the afternoon unpacking it. The goal is to have this thing together in the next two weeks. I'll try to post some pictures in the coming days of the assembly. It will be nice to have a second wing back in the hanger. I seen one of these fly last year and have wanted one ever since. This plane is a little hard to hide from the wife so I may be in the dog house for a while.
Ken
Hey Guys,
I sold two of my BME's to buy this plane. $650 was just too much to resist. It just arrived today and spent the afternoon unpacking it. The goal is to have this thing together in the next two weeks. I'll try to post some pictures in the coming days of the assembly. It will be nice to have a second wing back in the hanger. I seen one of these fly last year and have wanted one ever since. This plane is a little hard to hide from the wife so I may be in the dog house for a while.
Ken
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Well, I think I have everything else I need on order and should be here by the weekend. Ordered another FG 4-1/2" spinner from Bisson. Needed three more 8611's and a bunch of arms. The bottom wings are the ones I had to enlarge the most to make those servos fit.
Finished the bottom wing last night. Lots of throw all the way around. I was able to mount the surfaces with little to no gap and still has around 60 degrees of throw. I'll will still seal the hinge gaps anyway (old habit). The blue is insignia blue monocote and I aready had some from another project and will use it to seal the hinge gaps. I starting to get pumped about getting this in the air. My wife took it well so all is good and I won't be eating scooby snacks, at least this round.
Ken
Finished the bottom wing last night. Lots of throw all the way around. I was able to mount the surfaces with little to no gap and still has around 60 degrees of throw. I'll will still seal the hinge gaps anyway (old habit). The blue is insignia blue monocote and I aready had some from another project and will use it to seal the hinge gaps. I starting to get pumped about getting this in the air. My wife took it well so all is good and I won't be eating scooby snacks, at least this round.
Ken
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Hi Guys,
Got some more work done on this thing over the weekend. I was able to get the motor mounted. Decided to go full tilt with the rear carb box install. Had to put 3/4" standoffs on the ZDZ for good cowl alignment. Batteries and rudder servos are placed back some for proper CG. All my parts were here in just a few days with the exception of TBM. Kind of surprised by that because their usually pretty good. Tracking puts it here on Thursday. I still have the rigging left to do and the pull-pull. All of the servo arms for the rudder and wings are in the order that has not shown up yet.
One question for you guys, are you all measuring your CG with the wings off? Anyway back to work.
Ken
Got some more work done on this thing over the weekend. I was able to get the motor mounted. Decided to go full tilt with the rear carb box install. Had to put 3/4" standoffs on the ZDZ for good cowl alignment. Batteries and rudder servos are placed back some for proper CG. All my parts were here in just a few days with the exception of TBM. Kind of surprised by that because their usually pretty good. Tracking puts it here on Thursday. I still have the rigging left to do and the pull-pull. All of the servo arms for the rudder and wings are in the order that has not shown up yet.
One question for you guys, are you all measuring your CG with the wings off? Anyway back to work.
Ken
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ORIGINAL: Thunderbolt47
Flyfalcons, I'm still waiting on the ignition to get back from CH. I wasn't aware that was you. I guess you were the one with the heli and the big Comp-Arf. Very nice flying with both. I hope you enjoyed our fly-in.
Flyfalcons, I'm still waiting on the ignition to get back from CH. I wasn't aware that was you. I guess you were the one with the heli and the big Comp-Arf. Very nice flying with both. I hope you enjoyed our fly-in.
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A couple more pictures. I've pretty much got it done less the parts that have not arrived. I am guessing about three more hours of work left to do. I ended up moving the batteries two formers up from where they were. CG seems pretty good but I am a little unsure. Any help with CG would be appreciated. She should be flying by the end of the week.
Ken
Ken
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DAM, look at those ailerons reaching almost all the way to the root. Also the tail feathers are huge. Should 3D very well. It's cool that these birds will be in the hands of some sick 3D'rs. The flight reports and vid's should be very good.
ORIGINAL: Ken-h
A couple more pictures. I've pretty much got it done less the parts that have not arrived. I am guessing about three more hours of work left to do. I ended up moving the batteries two formers up from where they were. CG seems pretty good but I am a little unsure. Any help with CG would be appreciated. She should be flying by the end of the week.
Ken
A couple more pictures. I've pretty much got it done less the parts that have not arrived. I am guessing about three more hours of work left to do. I ended up moving the batteries two formers up from where they were. CG seems pretty good but I am a little unsure. Any help with CG would be appreciated. She should be flying by the end of the week.
Ken