New BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
10-27-2006, 07:04 AM
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Ken,
Nothing really negative to say towards BME as I'm a repeat customer with them. The damage had to happen long before the aircraft got here.
Just glad that their customer service is as good as it is. Already got the email response from Herve on the cowl and have plenty of time before the airplane is ready to fly.
The only negative comment I have is that I have to replace the fuel tank per the amendem as the tank being shipped is not believed to be for Gas. Not a real big issue but if they had time to
put the paper in there telling me that they should have been able to do something about it.
John
Ken,
Nothing really negative to say towards BME as I'm a repeat customer with them. The damage had to happen long before the aircraft got here.
Just glad that their customer service is as good as it is. Already got the email response from Herve on the cowl and have plenty of time before the airplane is ready to fly.
The only negative comment I have is that I have to replace the fuel tank per the amendem as the tank being shipped is not believed to be for Gas. Not a real big issue but if they had time to
put the paper in there telling me that they should have been able to do something about it.
John
The fuel tank is fine and all of the pieces for it. The single small piece of rubber tubing or fuel line supplied with the tank is what not to use. I am using the same tank on mine, hundreds of flights, no problems.
Ken
10-27-2006, 07:17 AM
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RE: New BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
Yeah, they are telling you to use Tygon instead of the supplied clunk line. Since you should have this on hand to plumb the plane outside the tank, replacing a 4"-5" piece in the tank should be no real stretch. 
As far as the damage on the few cowls... it happens... It looks as if these few were damaged at the factory and a digruntled worker didn't want to lose his job so he just packed 'em in as is.
Herve is looking into it, and it does seem to be isolated to a few cowls. With Ken checking them now before they go out just to make sure and Herve promptly replacing the few damaged ones... I really don't see anything but great service and support.
I've not seen one firsthand, but the quality overall has impressed the new owners from their reports.
As far as the damage on the few cowls... it happens... It looks as if these few were damaged at the factory and a digruntled worker didn't want to lose his job so he just packed 'em in as is.
Herve is looking into it, and it does seem to be isolated to a few cowls. With Ken checking them now before they go out just to make sure and Herve promptly replacing the few damaged ones... I really don't see anything but great service and support.
I've not seen one firsthand, but the quality overall has impressed the new owners from their reports.
10-27-2006, 08:30 AM
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RE: New BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
So replace the fuel lines in the tank with Tygon. Do you know it the fuel tank stopper is rated for gas?
Thanks.
Thanks.
10-27-2006, 08:35 AM
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RE: New BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
I got mine on Wednesday and I only looked at the Fuse box, my cowl appears to be fine. Well packed, doubled boxed, and wrapped, can't get any better then that. I would concur that the Cowls came from the factory that way (if damaged) the box's have no damage either. Very nice looking Plane, can't wait to assemble it.
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10-27-2006, 11:44 AM
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There ya go... Ken, thanks for keeping up with this thread and answering everyone's q's... Herve has a good one in you.. .
10-27-2006, 01:29 PM
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HI all, the big Brown truck arrived today, and everything looked great. The boxes are doubled and the parts are in plastic and their bags. As far as shipping is concerned, it arrived without a scratch. The quality of this kit is first rate, this is my second BME airplane and looks like a winner.You guys in the USA have a real bargain on your hands.It costs us a few more dollars to get it up to Canada but that's going to change with the new distributer in Canada.
The addition of the airplane bags is first class, they look great.
Rcpete
The addition of the airplane bags is first class, they look great.
Rcpete
10-27-2006, 01:46 PM
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You should be so lucky. I thought I was purchasing this plane from Hawaii over the net.
Imagine my surprise when I discovered this was from WA state and I had to pay 9% sales tax on top...
10-28-2006, 06:51 PM
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RE: New BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
Going over the covering in detail, I must say that I was somewhat disapointed as some of the seams and cuts are not very well put together and it looks like it has not really been covered by a professional - by professional I mean someone doing it better than I would... From that perspective, my Lanier 330 is about two quality levels higher as far as the covering goes.
Anyhow, I fixed what I could and removed some of the more visible gashes and gaps using ultracote I had lying around...
The rest seems OK. Some of the stringers were a bit irregular and had some defects that I felt needed repairing with a bit of glue and CF strands.
I am beginning to find some small inconsistencies in the manual. There's talk about sanding the engine box to remove the fuel proofing before gluing the top former on the motor box (ch. 5-1). Well, my engine box has no fuel proofing anywhere and the top former is already glued.
I was also not convinced that the small triangle stock would be enough to hold the firewall properly. I added some larger triangle stock I had around and plan on drilling the firewall sides and adding some dowels.
Unfortunately, it was only after gluing the firewall really well that I discovered quite a lot of clearance is missing for the Slimline pitts muffler. If I cannot find a muffler that drops lower and/or closer, I will have to cut up to 1" from the two side walls, all the way up to the firewall. I don't want to use the DA muffler unless absolutely necessary...
10-28-2006, 07:35 PM
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RE: New BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
As I said above, I cleaned up and removed a bunch of them. I had some weird marks on the covering, more like a sharp object or a knife leaving something looking like cuts. These are not really coming off.
The seams where the covering overlaps at the bottom of the fuse were not cut very straight (edges) and had quite a lot of Ultracote glue residue that I cleaned with acetone.
I'll grab some pictures and post...
10-28-2006, 08:07 PM
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Yarom, I also was a little dissapointed with the covering on mine, there is a considerble amount of scratches all over the covering(mostly on the bottom of the fuse and wings), and the silver on the top of the wing was very poorly applied(badly wrinkled) I have tried to get it out but i don't think I am going to be able to. It's as if the plane was being covered on a very dirty table and just drug across.I haven't found any gashes or poor seams yet but these scratches are very noticable. This was my first "HIGHER END" type plane purchase, and for the $'s I honestly did expect more. I do hope this is just isolated to a few planes as is the cowl damage (which lucky me I also have), as I stated before Herve has been a real pleasure to talk to and deal with, and I do believe he (they) are going to get things on track as they should be. Brad
10-28-2006, 08:15 PM
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OK, I tried taking pictures and failed since the flash blends the colors and once resized, you can't see much - even patches don't show.
I'll take pictures tomorrow, outside in natural light and post/send them.
I enclose a couple of pictures below showing how the two stringer lines forming the bottom of the fuse are ondulating, rather than being arched straight. I find that to be a bit of an issue as it might indicate something is up with structural rigidity of the fuselage. It's also not very pretty...
Other pictures are of the issue I am having with muffler clearance.
10-28-2006, 08:24 PM
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RE: New BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
I don't doubt for a moment they are professionals and honest. I was just very surprised by the defects and scratches I found all over the fuselage covering and the poor quality of the seams (I have not inspected the wings yet - maybe I should). I too was expecting more at this price level and considering the glowing revues posted here earlier.
I would not normally care if I can make it go away, shrink it or clean it with solvent. Some areas I was not able too fix with my best iron and a new sock.
I am kind of more worried now about the bottom stringers not being straight (see fuse pictures in previous post) and the bottom of the fuse looking weird. It looked like they were forced in and glued in a jig, while not really having the flexibility to adopt the curvature (or not being wet beforehand)...
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Yarom, I also was a little dissapointed with the covering on mine, there is a considerble amount of scratches all over the covering(mostly on the bottom of the fuse and wings), and the silver on the top of the wing was very poorly applied(badly wrinkled) I have tried to get it out but i don't think I am going to be able to. It's as if the plane was being covered on a very dirty table and just drug across.I haven't found any gashes or poor seams yet but these scratches are very noticable. This was my first "HIGHER END" type plane purchase, and for the $'s I honestly did expect more. I do hope this is just isolated to a few planes as is the cowl damage (which lucky me I also have), as I stated before Herve has been a real pleasure to talk to and deal with, and I do believe he (they) are going to get things on track as they should be. Brad
Yarom, I also was a little dissapointed with the covering on mine, there is a considerble amount of scratches all over the covering(mostly on the bottom of the fuse and wings), and the silver on the top of the wing was very poorly applied(badly wrinkled) I have tried to get it out but i don't think I am going to be able to. It's as if the plane was being covered on a very dirty table and just drug across.I haven't found any gashes or poor seams yet but these scratches are very noticable. This was my first "HIGHER END" type plane purchase, and for the $'s I honestly did expect more. I do hope this is just isolated to a few planes as is the cowl damage (which lucky me I also have), as I stated before Herve has been a real pleasure to talk to and deal with, and I do believe he (they) are going to get things on track as they should be. Brad
10-28-2006, 08:46 PM
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Yarom, I just went and had a look at my fuse and the stringers on the bottom of mine do not look like yours, they seem good. I have not had a chance to get at assembly for mine yet, just tried a little iron work , but like you I don't think the scratches r going to shrink out they are pretty deep, if I had to guess I would say at least half ways through the covering, and it does look like a tool or something was under it and then it was drug along, something relatively sharp. Brad
10-28-2006, 11:44 PM
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RE: New BME Aircraft 30% Extra330L
Well I think my mind is made up about what I want for Xmas... I love my BME Yak and I'll deal with BME again for this Extra.. Ill be putting a Canister in mine that should make up for having to put the batteries so far back.. And some Schweet JR Decals..
Hey Ken, havent seen you on for awhile since the Yak2 came out.. I'm enjoyin the hell out of it. Have you tried a Vess prop on your DA50 yet? I've had one for a few months and love it...
Is there gonna be a Generation 2 Extra,like the Gen 2 Yak?
Cya,
Frank
10-29-2006, 12:15 AM
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xtraflyr, can you please tell me which vess prop? I fly at 3500' and just got the 22b on my da 50 on a h9 260 only had 2 flights on a windy day but def made it a diff plane
10-29-2006, 12:29 AM
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i think that if your going to use the 22b on a da 50 powered acrobatic plane you should go to the 23A instead you will get the same rpms but have more thrust and better breaking on the down lines. these are my findings
I havent tried the 22a but if i had to guess i would say iam going to like it.
I havent tried the 22a but if i had to guess i would say iam going to like it.
10-29-2006, 12:39 AM
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thanks Flatlandmike, I was hoping that someone flew the 23a as that was the size I was going to try first. I was just wondering how the da turned it. I still can't get over how different my 260 responded to this prop. WOW
10-29-2006, 02:41 AM
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new vr Wild hare extra da 50 16.5 pounds and elevation 1000'. IMO these planes are made by the same factory, they have nearly identical construction.
10-29-2006, 08:27 AM
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I only have about 3 gallons through my DA. I got the 22a because the way they decribed it,it sounded like it was made for a Yak. Once I'm broken in Ill be switchen to the 23a..
Later,
frank
Later,
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